Do you believe the not guilty verdict for Zimmerman is just? UPDATE: NOT GUILTY

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#3901 Jimn_tonic
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well, i can't say i agree with the verdict, but the trial was a joke. most of the witnesses were like brain trauma victims. i had less of an understanding of what the fuk happened after the trial was over. How does that even happen?

i'm glad i don't live in florida tho. i'd feel a hell of a lot less safe if i did

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Liberalus is just feeding you guys what he feels will get the response he is looking for. He is succeeding in that with some of you guys. Like nibroc. But nibroc has changed for the better somewhat
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="liberalus"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Because no other person uses race as a crutch. Yet there are so many hard working black people that have fantastic lives because they didn't sit here and moan about it like you are.

im living a fantastic life myself, why u assuming im not? other people definitely use race. the system is also not built for hispanics and especially not native americans.

I hear no one complain but blacks. And I'm assuming you have a shitty time because of what you're saying. System isn't perfect and it sure as hell isn't built for me (no where near white). But it is a good system and I hate when people moan and bitch about it.

That's false. Sure, Blacks may the be the majority of the ones expressing dissatisfaction but there are plenty of whites who also express dissatisfaction towards the verdict. That evident by the thousands on the street protesting. Further, any system that would see a woman do 20 years for defending herself, even if her defense was reckless, is a deplorable system.
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Liberalus is just feeding you guys what he feels will get the response he is looking for. He is succeeding in that with some of you guys. Like nibroc. But nibroc has changed for the better somewhatdave123321
Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]Liberalus is just feeding you guys what he feels will get the response he is looking for. He is succeeding in that with some of you guys. Like nibroc. But nibroc has changed for the better somewhatNibroc420
Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.

mhm
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#3906 Shottayouth13-
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196 pages. Wow.
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#3907 thebest31406
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nibroc has changed for the better somewhatdave123321
Really? Not enough for me to quit adblocking him, I bet.
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#3908 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

The point is we do not know the full story, yea Zimmerman did act like an idiot. But did that empower him, Zimmerman's side of the story is he did not confront Martin, and it seems that lethal force was a near last resort.

VendettaRed07

everyone wants to know what martin was doing. Well what was zimmerman doing? Was he patroling the neighborhood keeping in touch with police to make it feel like he is somehow solving crime? There is enough evidence to support that as he made it very clear that the recent amount of break ins in his neighborhood upset him Convinient that he had his gun on him no? What does he just carry it at all times? Sounds to me like he went out seeking people he thought might be robbing other peoples homes and alerted the authorities the second he saw anything that looked anything like it.

Im willing to bet anything he doesn't drive around talking to the police confronting people acting like a cop if he doesn't have a gun. Thats just how I see it. Maybe it would have happened similarly if he didn't have a gun.. But Im sure situations not exactly like this, happen ALL the time. people putting themselves in dumb scenarios and get in way over their head because its so easy to get a gun and they can go around with that power in their pocket.

Zimmerman stated that he was on his way to Target when he originally saw Martin walking between the buildings and looking in windows. With the number of burglaries, which you acknowledge to have happened, someone looking in windows is suspicious and would warrant stopping and calling the cops, which is exactly what he did. There was even one point that Martin started to approach Zimmerman's vehicle and just stared at him.

Now, after Trayvon ran, and it was testified that he lost Zimmerman, he had the ability to go into where he was visiting, yet didn't. That does not mean that Zimmerman followed him with the intent of killing Martin. If it was, he could have shot him when he approached the vehicle and stared at Zimmerman, yet he wasn't. There is no evidence that this "cop wannabe" had his weapon drawn like a cop could when unsure of where a suspect is that may be dangerous as no testimony from the last person to talk to Trayvon that Zimmerman had his pistol out. 

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196 pages. Wow.Shottayouth13-
Indeed.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="dave123321"]Liberalus is just feeding you guys what he feels will get the response he is looking for. He is succeeding in that with some of you guys. Like nibroc. But nibroc has changed for the better somewhatdave123321
Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.

mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.

mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him

So I take it you deplore marijuana use?
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#3912 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"] mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him

So I take it you deplore marijuana use?

No. Just not public ally trying to emulate thugs.
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.

mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him

those arent skittles!!! :P
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12.

mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him *pic*]

What if I told you that many people worldwide smoke weed and are in very prominent positions in life? But nope, your ignorance will of course blind you.
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Here are some more recent photos of him

So I take it you deplore marijuana use?

No. Just not public ally trying to emulate thugs.

Wait...what?!
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"] mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him *pic*]

What if I told you that many people worldwide smoke weed and are in very prominent positions in life? But nope, your ignorance will of course blind you.

They don't post pictures of the,selves holding guns and trying to make themselves look like Tupac. He is a wannabe thug.
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#3917 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] That has nothing to do with this. There's a difference between someone walking behind you and being followed. Capitan_Kid

Seriously, you just didn't say that. Someone walking behind you is following you. This from someone who thinks 28 is middle aged. How old are you? 13? 

Are you stupid? If someone is walking behind you it's because you happen to be walking in the same direction. If someone is following you, they are going whatever direction you are. Really man. That was idiotic.

If you are walking behind someone, you are following them.

fol·low (fl)
v. fol·lowed, fol·low·ing, fol·lows
v.tr.
1. To come or go after; proceed behind

 

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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"] mhm

Here are some more recent photos of him *pic*]

What if I told you that many people worldwide smoke weed and are in very prominent positions in life? But nope, your ignorance will of course blind you.

That's why I asked if he was against marijuana use. If he is, maybe I'd understand. Otherwise, what's the point?
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] So I take it you deplore marijuana use?

No. Just not public ally trying to emulate thugs.

Wait...what?!

Get over yourself.
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Lol, i know he's a troll. He's using a picture of Trayvon at age 12 mhmthebest31406
Here are some more recent photos of him

So I take it you deplore marijuana use?

Its a crime to posess firearms and drugs. You cant even buy a gun legally if you had proir drug convictions. Nor should you. I do not want ANYONE possessing a firearm while doing ANY kind of illegal drugs. Thats one gun control I support.

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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Here are some more recent photos of him *pic*]

What if I told you that many people worldwide smoke weed and are in very prominent positions in life? But nope, your ignorance will of course blind you.

They don't post pictures of the,selves holding guns and trying to make themselves look like Tupac. He is a wannabe thug.

Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] What if I told you that many people worldwide smoke weed and are in very prominent positions in life? But nope, your ignorance will of course blind you.

They don't post pictures of the,selves holding guns and trying to make themselves look like Tupac. He is a wannabe thug.

Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.
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#3923 thebest31406
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Here are some more recent photos of him  DevilMightCry

So I take it you deplore marijuana use?

Its a crime to posess firearms and drugs. You cant even buy a gun legally if you had proir drug convictions. Nor should you. I do not want ANYONE possessing a firearm while doing ANY kind of illegal drugs. Thats one gun control I support.

The gun I get. I asked about marijuana use. I take it you also disapprove of the use of marijuana.
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Who didn't see this coming..seriously..Florida has an entire law based around being able to use lethal force to defend yourself
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] They don't post pictures of the,selves holding guns and trying to make themselves look like Tupac. He is a wannabe thug.

Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Would you prefer if he posed like 007?
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] They don't post pictures of the,selves holding guns and trying to make themselves look like Tupac. He is a wannabe thug.

Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:
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#3927 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] And he called the cops, which was enough. He didn't need to pursue him. He did not need to follow him. He did not need to assume he was a burglar and on drugs for no reason at all. He most certainly went looking for trouble. MrPraline

There were traces of THC in Martin's system and he apparently liked Lean, which is something Skittles is used for, and sizzurp. Now I am not saying that he was using that day, but being suspended from school for having an empty baggy with residue on school grounds as well as texting and tweeting about it sure points to drug use.

 

lol tbh I think it's kind of a stretch to assume the skittles were going to be used for purple drank.

True and is why I stated he probably was not using or even going to use since it requires the use of a cough syrup using codiene and none was found in his system nor do I think any was found where he and his Dad lived. I think his Dad started coming down on Martin for his actions and drug use, but I can't say for certain, but it looks that way. 

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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

He poses like a thug. He buys guns without permits. He produces drugs. He's been suspended multiple times for fighting, drugs, and possession of burglary tools. But of course, he was a A+ student, who went to church daily and would never hurt a fly. No, not Trayvon :roll:
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#3929 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Would you prefer if he posed like 007?

007 is a fictional character. Tupac was a man who blatantly said "fvck authority" and said that out of his own character.
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#3930 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Guns are one thing, but don't make out smoking weed to be some deplorable act that only the scums of society participate in.

It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

And totes gun.., displaying it, on the Internet.
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#3931 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]

[QUOTE="thebest31406"] So I take it you deplore marijuana use?thebest31406

Its a crime to posess firearms and drugs. You cant even buy a gun legally if you had proir drug convictions. Nor should you. I do not want ANYONE possessing a firearm while doing ANY kind of illegal drugs. Thats one gun control I support.

The gun I get. I asked about marijuana use. I take it you also disapprove of the use of marijuana.

No. I am for decriminalization of marijuana users.
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[QUOTE="thebest31406"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.lo_Pine
Would you prefer if he posed like 007?

007 is a fictional character. Tupac was a man who blatantly said "fvck authority" and said that out of his own character.

tupac was a back up singer for the digital underground and he fit in perfectly.

his thug image is all smoke and mirrors.

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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

There were traces of THC in Martin's system and he apparently liked Lean, which is something Skittles is used for, and sizzurp. Now I am not saying that he was using that day, but being suspended from school for having an empty baggy with residue on school grounds as well as texting and tweeting about it sure points to drug use.

liberalus

lol tbh I think it's kind of a stretch to assume the skittles were going to be used for purple drank.

that's racism there,,i have no idea why he is assuming this bull****. f*** him NOT ALL BLACK PEOPLE ARE SAVAGES this NOSTRADUMBASS WHITEKNIGHT was predicting RIOTS and LOOTING by the BLACK community after a non guilty verdict...where are all these violent riots u RACIST REDNECK?

Point out where I said anything racist? Point out where I said any racist word? I also never predicted riots. You know what they say about assumptions? 

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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Would you prefer if he posed like 007?frannkzappa

007 is a fictional character. Tupac was a man who blatantly said "fvck authority" and said that out of his own character.

tupac was a back up singer for the digital underground and he fit in perfectly.

his thug image is all smoke and mirrors.

No, it is not. He beat up people and that has been caught on camera. Watch Tupac Resurrection.
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

He poses like a thug. He buys guns without permits. He produces drugs. He's been suspended multiple times for fighting, drugs, and possession of burglary tools. But of course, he was a A+ student, who went to church daily and would never hurt a fly. No, not Trayvon :roll:

Way to put words in my mouth. And oh, anyone who poses like a thug is immediately written off? And smoking weed? Surely won't amount to anything.
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#3936 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] 007 is a fictional character. Tupac was a man who blatantly said "fvck authority" and said that out of his own character.lo_Pine

tupac was a back up singer for the digital underground and he fit in perfectly.

his thug image is all smoke and mirrors.

No, it is not. He beat up people and that has been caught on camera. Watch Tupac Resurrection.

if you think tupac is a thug, you really have no clue what a thug is.

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#3937 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

He poses like a thug. He buys guns without permits. He produces drugs. He's been suspended multiple times for fighting, drugs, and possession of burglary tools. But of course, he was a A+ student, who went to church daily and would never hurt a fly. No, not Trayvon :roll:

Way to put words in my mouth. And oh, anyone who poses like a thug is immediately written off? And smoking weed? Surely won't amount to anything.

He wasnt merely posing as one. He posed as one and had a gun. He WANTED to be one.
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#3938 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

tupac was a back up singer for the digital underground and he fit in perfectly.

his thug image is all smoke and mirrors.

frannkzappa

No, it is not. He beat up people and that has been caught on camera. Watch Tupac Resurrection.

if you think tupac is a thug, you really have no clue what a thug is.

Ok. Guess the spokesman for thugs has nothing to do with thugs.
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] It's the fact that he poses like Tupac coupled with his public display of gun toting that makes it troubling.

Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

And totes gun.., displaying it, on the Internet.

That's the only point you have. The rest is nitpicky bullshit.
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Also, probably discussed while I was asleep/at work, but did anybody else enjoy Robert Zimmerman jr vs that c*nt Piers Morgan?MrPraline

What I saw of it, but as you noted, Piers Morgan is just that. He and Al Sharpton would make great bookends. :lol:

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#3941 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] No, it is not. He beat up people and that has been caught on camera. Watch Tupac Resurrection.lo_Pine

if you think tupac is a thug, you really have no clue what a thug is.

Ok. Guess the spokesman for thugs has nothing to do with thugs.

made spokesman by scared old people with no understanding of hip hop culture.

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#3942 Shottayouth13-
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] He poses like a thug. He buys guns without permits. He produces drugs. He's been suspended multiple times for fighting, drugs, and possession of burglary tools. But of course, he was a A+ student, who went to church daily and would never hurt a fly. No, not Trayvon :roll:

Way to put words in my mouth. And oh, anyone who poses like a thug is immediately written off? And smoking weed? Surely won't amount to anything.

He wasnt merely posing as one. He posed as one and had a gun. He WANTED to be one.

Uh uh sure. So just write him off and throw him in the thrashbin.
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#3943 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]this thread is why people should not get their "facts" from the MSM, as none of those stories come close to the evidence provided during the case. that means a lot of stuff was made up for the purposes of fanning the flames of hate, the same flames that ended up bringing this baseless case to court. MrPraline
At least people are distracted from the Bradley Manning trial

:lol:

Give it a few days. 

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#3944 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Oh gee, he poses like Tupac :roll:

He poses like a thug. He buys guns without permits. He produces drugs. He's been suspended multiple times for fighting, drugs, and possession of burglary tools. But of course, he was a A+ student, who went to church daily and would never hurt a fly. No, not Trayvon :roll:

Way to put words in my mouth. And oh, anyone who poses like a thug is immediately written off? And smoking weed? Surely won't amount to anything.

He's not just posing like a thug. I like how in your mind skipping school to get into fights, buy illegal guns, do drugs and burglarize things, doesn't constitute "thug" behavior, and in your mind Trayvon was simply "posing as a thug"
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#3945 UnknownSniper65
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I don't understand how various groups are blaming Florida's stand your ground law for the ruling. The defense didn't even use stand your ground as part of their case. Even if Florida didn't have a stand your ground law the verdict would have been the same. As far as the jurors ruling was concerned, Zimmerman was unable to fulfill his duty to retreat because he was pinned down. In fact, the defense could have had a stand your ground hearing to prevent the entire case if they wanted to. The stand your ground law actually had very little to do with the verdict.

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#3947 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

if you think tupac is a thug, you really have no clue what a thug is.

frannkzappa

Ok. Guess the spokesman for thugs has nothing to do with thugs.

made spokesman by old white people with no understanding of hip hop culture.

Tupac never owned up to it? He titled an album "Thug Life".
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#3948 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Way to put words in my mouth. And oh, anyone who poses like a thug is immediately written off? And smoking weed? Surely won't amount to anything.

He wasnt merely posing as one. He posed as one and had a gun. He WANTED to be one.

Uh uh sure. So just write him off and throw him in the thrashbin.

He was a wanna be thug. Period.
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#3949 frannkzappa
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[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Ok. Guess the spokesman for thugs has nothing to do with thugs.lo_Pine

made spokesman by old white people with no understanding of hip hop culture.

Tupac never owned up to it? He titled an album "Thug Life".

again smoke and mirrors. image is different than the person. most people who were old enough in the 90's knew how tupac really was.

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#3950 lo_Pine
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[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

made spokesman by old white people with no understanding of hip hop culture.

frannkzappa

Tupac never owned up to it? He titled an album "Thug Life".

again smoke and mirrors. image is different than the person. most people who were old enough in the 90's knew how tupac really was.

You can keep thinking that.