Do you believe the not guilty verdict for Zimmerman is just? UPDATE: NOT GUILTY

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#4101 BMD004
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[QUOTE="BMD004"]NoScope... what do you do for a living?no-scope-AK47

Why is this a employment site ?

Why the curious cat routine all of a sudden ??

I'm just curious. What do you do where you make six figures?
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#4102 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"]NoScope... what do you do for a living?BMD004

Why is this a employment site ?

Why the curious cat routine all of a sudden ??

I'm just curious. What do you do where you make six figures?

I am a electrician on off shore oil rigs. 

What do you do ??

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#4103 DevilMightCry
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Yeah TM was responsible for putting the case together against GZ nice straw man idiot. The evidence in the OJ trial was clearly tampered with by the police. Now  Sanford is a known town with a racist history. The area was also ground zero for protest and had/has media coverage on the case. Yet they picked people 5 white women from that same area to be on the juryno-scope-AK47

 You're the idiot. Let me explain why:

There was nothing to this case. Originally, the detective said in his investigation he found no link to Zimmerman other than the self defense claim. The police chief has also validated that claim, along with original prosecutor.

Now comes the pressure from Civil Rights activists race pimps to prosecute Zimmerman. Department Of Justice files complaints to the Governor. FBI is involved, and they investigated for a year and found no evidence of racist intent, or murder. DOJ even funds internal groups to go organize protests to gain traction. The police chief is fired. New prosecutor is appointed, pending charges of murder on Zimmerman. Judge is dismissed. New Judge appointed. New jury is appointed. State argues before court. Judge keeps disallowing evidence against Martin even though its relevant. State witholds evidence from defense. Wistleblower comes forward testifying that he evidence was withheld. Later he is fired for it. Prosecution fails to convince the jury based on evidence. So, you mean to tell me, that after the case was dismisses originally, and was being pushed by DOJ to appoint new prosecutor, new judges, less evidence, and everything else that was thrown against Zimmerman from beginning, that they picked some racist jurors? It's not like Zimmerman picked 6 female jurors himself. Just like the Civil Rights leaders were asking. They got exactly what they wanted, except hang this man by the tree. And now you're spousing some tinfoil conspiracy? Admit it, its not about justice. Its about your own emotional vested interest in the case, that you can't see past your own ignorance.

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#4104 Meinhard1
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There are a lot of feelings that can cloud our judgment of this case -- that natural need for closure/retribution, or those related to modern 'hot topics' like gun violence or inter-racial tension.

... and it's certainly sad what happened. An unarmed black teenager lying in the street -- even if he was trying to steal something, the loss of his life is sad.  It's natural to feel that something needs to be done to make this right.

But that doesn't mean we need to ruin the life of a man who may have been simply acting in self defense. In the lack of strong evidence against him, it makes the most sense to assume Zimmerman's innocence.  

One life has already been ruined, I'm hopeful Zimmerman be able to live a happy and healthy life henceforth. 

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#4105 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

  

Then why do people keep saying words that end in er as a? Notice she said cracka as well as Martin. People want their cake and eat it too.

Bucked20

Cracka is also slang for police

I thought that was po po.

 

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#4106 OrkHammer007
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"] Cracka is also slang for policeWhiteKnight77

I thought that was po po.

I hought it was "5-oh."

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#4107 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"]What bucked is saying; Treyvon thought he was cracka. He was po'lice. Treyvon was gonna get that cracka. Get that po'lice cracka. Treyvon was gonna go find that po'lice, and punch him up. Like... Dats whassup. Bucked20
Typical cornball ritz response,Im saying many refer to police as cracka,doesn't mean he was using it that way.

Hmmm, a new racist term there? Coming from you, it would seem so as you are well known for being one. 

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#4108 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] So in OJ trial when a prosecutor used a racial slur, that automatically dismisses the whole case as being racist. But in this case, when the Treyvon uses a racial slur describing a "white hispanic" its perfectly fine, and it counts against the jury. Got it hypocrite. DevilMightCry

Yeah TM was responsible for putting the case together against GZ nice straw man idiot. The evidence in the OJ trial was clearly tampered with by the police. Now  Sanford is a known town with a racist history. The area was also ground zero for protest and had/has media coverage on the case. Yet they picked people 5 white women from that same area to be on the jury[/url] You're the idiot. Let me explain why: There was nothing to this case. Originally, the detective said in his investigation he found no link to Zimmerman other than the self defense claim. The police chief has also validated that claim, along with original prosecutor. Now comes the pressure from Civil Rights activists race pimps to prosecute Zimmerman. Department Of Justice files complaints to the Governor. FBI is involved, and they investigated for a year and found no evidence of racist intent, or murder. DOJ even funds internal groups to go organize protests to gain traction. The police chief is fired. New prosecutor is appointed, pending charges of murder on Zimmerman. Judge is dismissed. New Judge appointed. New jury is appointed. State argues before court. Judge keeps disallowing evidence against Martin even though its relevant. State witholds evidence from defense. Wistleblower comes forward testifying that he evidence was withheld. Later he is fired for it. Prosecution fails to convince the jury based on evidence. So, you mean to tell me, that after the case was dismisses originally, and was being pushed by DOJ to appoint new prosecutor, new judges, less evidence, and everything else that was thrown against Zimmerman from beginning, that they picked some racist jurors? It's not like Zimmerman picked 6 female jurors himself. Just like the Civil Rights leaders were asking. They got exactly what they wanted, except hang this man by the tree. And now you're spousing some tinfoil conspiracy? Admit it, its not about justice. Its about your own emotional vested interest in the case, that you can't see past your own ignorance.

You did nothing to dispute what I have said. 

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#4109 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

SO when Treyvon said get off get off who was he talking to ???

Also if George is walking back to his car who was the man that was out of breath that came up to TM??

The jury heard creepy ass cracker and dissmissed everything she said when she was the person on the phone with Treyvon. 

BMD004

I have a theory. Jantel egged on Martin to beat up that creepy-ass cracker. She claimed she felt guilty that she was the last person to talk to the Martin's son. But I think she felt guilty because she felt she had a hand in his death by her egging him on to beat his ass.

 

Now, there is absolutely no evidence of this.

 

But it wouldn't surprise me.

 

Young people like to talk tough... especially when there is a girl there. They don't talk like they are scared.

This goes with my theory that Jeantel knows more than she let on in the deposition, what she told her mother, what she told the Martins and what she said on the stand. Her not wanting to be involved and her indignation when on the stand points to it. 

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#4110 DevilMightCry
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You did nothing to dispute what I have said.no-scope-AK47
Your whole premise is wrong. I don't have to dispute it. You are a bafoon.
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Tape showed Zimmerman's anger over black man's beating shows just how "racist" actually is. He accused the Sanford PD of a coverup in said beating to the city council/commission of Sanford and wanted the chief's pension revoked due to said coverup.

Yeah, Zimmerman is really racist in coming to the defense of a homeless black man when the son of a white police lieutenant beat him and was taped. I also expect no-scope to completely ignore this fact 

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#4112 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] You did nothing to dispute what I have said.DevilMightCry
Your whole premise is wrong. I don't have to dispute it. You are a bafoon.

Yeah that is what I thought as soon as you have to think for yourself you have nothing to say good job sheep. Could be your too young and you watch to much tv. Either way when somebody tells you something look at and analyze it. Don't just start at the court room. Look at what happened that night and how it happened and where it happened. 

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#4113 branketra
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Even though Zimmerman was found not guilty, I think he should be charged with something.
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Tape showed Zimmerman's anger over black man's beating shows just how "racist" actually is. He accused the Sanford PD of a coverup in said beating to the city council/commission of Sanford and wanted the chief's pension revoked due to said coverup.

Yeah, Zimmerman is really racist in coming to the defense of a homeless black man when the son of a white police lieutenant beat him and was taped. I also expect no-scope to completely ignore this fact 

WhiteKnight77
Or that he dated a Black girl to the prom. Or that he mentored two black troubled teens at his own expense.
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#4115 DevilMightCry
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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"] You did nothing to dispute what I have said.no-scope-AK47

Your whole premise is wrong. I don't have to dispute it. You are a bafoon.

Yeah that is what I thought as soon as you have to think for yourself you have nothing to say good job sheep. Could be your too young and you watch to much tv. Either way when somebody tells you something look at and analyze it. Don't just start at the court room. Look at what happened that night and how it happened and where it happened. 

Lets start with you bafoon. Where is your evidence the jurors were racist? Let me know when you have that. And no, your "feelings" on it do not count.
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#4116 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Tape showed Zimmerman's anger over black man's beating shows just how "racist" actually is. He accused the Sanford PD of a coverup in said beating to the city council/commission of Sanford and wanted the chief's pension revoked due to said coverup.

Yeah, Zimmerman is really racist in coming to the defense of a homeless black man when the son of a white police lieutenant beat him and was taped. I also expect no-scope to completely ignore this fact 

DevilMightCry

Or that he dated a Black girl to the prom. Or that he mentored two black troubled teens at his own expense.

I don't care if he was a nobel peace prize winner. That has nothing to do with the events the night he murdered a minor.

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#4117 branketra
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I think Zimmerman not being a racist is obvious at this point.
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Your whole premise is wrong. I don't have to dispute it. You are a bafoon. DevilMightCry

Yeah that is what I thought as soon as you have to think for yourself you have nothing to say good job sheep. Could be your too young and you watch to much tv. Either way when somebody tells you something look at and analyze it. Don't just start at the court room. Look at what happened that night and how it happened and where it happened. 

Lets start with you bafoon. Where is your evidence the jurors were racist? Let me know when you have that. And no, your "feelings" on it do not count.

why u calling him a bafoon, racist?
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#4119 liberalus
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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Tape showed Zimmerman's anger over black man's beating shows just how "racist" actually is. He accused the Sanford PD of a coverup in said beating to the city council/commission of Sanford and wanted the chief's pension revoked due to said coverup.

Yeah, Zimmerman is really racist in coming to the defense of a homeless black man when the son of a white police lieutenant beat him and was taped. I also expect no-scope to completely ignore this fact 

DevilMightCry
Or that he dated a Black girl to the prom. Or that he mentored two black troubled teens at his own expense.

slave owners had sex with black slaves in the the 1800s.....and ur point is?
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#4120 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"] Your whole premise is wrong. I don't have to dispute it. You are a bafoon. DevilMightCry

Yeah that is what I thought as soon as you have to think for yourself you have nothing to say good job sheep. Could be your too young and you watch to much tv. Either way when somebody tells you something look at and analyze it. Don't just start at the court room. Look at what happened that night and how it happened and where it happened. 

Lets start with you bafoon. Where is your evidence the jurors were racist? Let me know when you have that. And no, your "feelings" on it do not count.

You still have yet to address any of my previous points and now want to call names :lol:

Wow with your lack of critical thinking skills it must of used up all your brain power on that snappy come back. Hear me now and understand me later is all I can say.

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slave owners had sex with black slaves in the the 1800s.....and ur point is? liberalus

In all honestly, that response is imbecilic at best.

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#4122 liberalus
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]slave owners had sex with black slaves in the the 1800s.....and ur point is? cablemodemx2

In all honestly, that response is imbecilic at best.

care to explain y
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I think all this topic has really achieved in 4000 posts is demonstrating that certain members here will respond to the same poorly done arguments like gold fish will check for ways out of a tank.
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[QUOTE="liberalus"]slave owners had sex with black slaves in the the 1800s.....and ur point is? liberalus

In all honestly, that response is imbecilic at best.

care to explain y

Because trying to equate dating a black girl and tutoring black students to the raping of slaves in the 1800's by their owners is just nonsense. Honestly, I've been sitting here for several minutes trying to come up with an analogy as bad as that which you stated, simply as an example, but I cannot come up with something so intrinsiclally 'out there'.

Truly, I shouldn't have used imbecilic, as I'm just in a bit of an off mood, but just... wow. Equating those two sides is just beyond me.

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Even though Zimmerman was found not guilty, I think he should be charged with something.BranKetra

Like what? He cannot be criminally charged in that incident on that night any more.  

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[QUOTE="DevilMightCry"][QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

Tape showed Zimmerman's anger over black man's beating shows just how "racist" actually is. He accused the Sanford PD of a coverup in said beating to the city council/commission of Sanford and wanted the chief's pension revoked due to said coverup.

Yeah, Zimmerman is really racist in coming to the defense of a homeless black man when the son of a white police lieutenant beat him and was taped. I also expect no-scope to completely ignore this fact 

liberalus

Or that he dated a Black girl to the prom. Or that he mentored two black troubled teens at his own expense.

slave owners had sex with black slaves in the the 1800s.....and ur point is?

Are you trying to insinuate that Zimmerman owned a slave? 

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#4127 no-scope-AK47
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[QUOTE="liberalus"][QUOTE="cablemodemx2"]

In all honestly, that response is imbecilic at best.

cablemodemx2

care to explain y

Because trying to equate dating a black girl and tutoring black students to the raping of slaves in the 1800's by their owners is just nonsense. Honestly, I've been sitting here for several minutes trying to come up with an analogy as bad as that which you stated, simply as an example, but I cannot come up with something so intrinsiclally 'out there'.

Truly, I shouldn't have used imbecilic, as I'm just in a bit of an off mood, but just... wow. Equating those two sides is just beyond me.

I have slept with white women that claimed they did NOT like N199ers or sp1cs. That did not stop them from wanting the penis now did it. Then they run back and brag to their friends. Oh it was so great and so taboo if they man or father or brother found out wow so thrilling. They get they walls knocked down and love it but still want to call other guys the same racist words. Being a racist does not have to make sense.

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best. thread. ever.
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#4129 solidruss
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It's fair to say this topic has reached any constructive end that was even remotely in sight