Do you belive 9/11 was a inside job?

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#101 dissonantblack
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i highly doubt any country would kill thousands of its own people and destroy an economical headquarters, causing it to go into a recession just for a reason to go occupy another nation.

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#102 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I can't believe that any one would think it was a inside job.. The fact that the conspiracy theorists don't think its more probable that government purposely allowed the terrorist to slip through their security, but instead think it was a full blown inside job.. IS LAUGHABLE.
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#103 deactivated-59d151f079814
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i highly doubt any country would kill thousands of its own people and destroy an economical headquarters, causing it to go into a recession just for a reason to go occupy another nation.

dissonantblack

... Its not even that.. It would be impossible for them to keep it under wraps.. And people seem not to understand that a controled devestation takes months of planning, and ripping up the interior to place the explosives.. Its laughable.

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#104 xionvalkyrie
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[QUOTE="dissonantblack"]

i highly doubt any country would kill thousands of its own people and destroy an economical headquarters, causing it to go into a recession just for a reason to go occupy another nation.

sSubZerOo

... Its not even that.. It would be impossible for them to keep it under wraps.. And people seem not to understand that a controled devestation takes months of planning, and ripping up the interior to place the explosives.. Its laughable.

It's more probably that the explosives were always there as a safeguard to make sure that if it does collapse, it wouldn't topple other buildings around it. They just didn't want people knowing they had that in the building, as it'd probably be really bad for business.

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#105 MissLibrarian
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Mwhaha yeah. Yes I do.

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#106 Snakewiseman
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Its right here in these secret documents

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#107 metallica_fan42
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No, the planes came from the outside, I don't think it's possible that they started from the inside...
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#108 ghoklebutter
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No.
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#109 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="dissonantblack"]

i highly doubt any country would kill thousands of its own people and destroy an economical headquarters, causing it to go into a recession just for a reason to go occupy another nation.

xionvalkyrie

... Its not even that.. It would be impossible for them to keep it under wraps.. And people seem not to understand that a controled devestation takes months of planning, and ripping up the interior to place the explosives.. Its laughable.

It's more probably that the explosives were always there as a safeguard to make sure that if it does collapse, it wouldn't topple other buildings around it. They just didn't want people knowing they had that in the building, as it'd probably be really bad for business.

I've heard this theory, but it doesn't make sense. Rigging your own buildings with explosives? How long would those explosives have to keep for? And how would you make sure that some freak accident doesn't set them off?
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#110 BiancaDK
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well, given that CIA made bin laden the man he is today, i guess it really was a inside job.
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#111 weezyfb
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yes it was a inside job in part..
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#112 arbitor365
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here is my answer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SX3JnUhTaE

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#113 mirriorman
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i'm going to go with the south park explaination

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#114 Omni-Slash
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]Yes....all orchestrated by the mole people.....ThePlothole

Wouldn't that be an "underground job" then?

inside the earth....duhhhhhh...:roll:....
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#115 ThePlothole
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inside the earth....duhhhhhh...:roll:....Omni-Slash

The Earth is conspiring against us? I know we've trashed her up a bit, but that just seems rather extreme!

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#116 tofu-lion91
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No....just no.
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#117 deactivated-601cef9eca9e5
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I saw a 911 documentary (I think this is it: http://www.amazon.com/911-Plane-Site-Directors-Cut/dp/B00116VG46/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268784322&sr=8-3) and even though I don't know if 911 was a cover up something is very odd. I am all for the US heck I'm a United States Marine but something really wrong happened on 911 and I don't believe a lot of the stuff that happened.

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#118 PannicAtack
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I saw a 911 documentary (I think this is it: http://www.amazon.com/911-Plane-Site-Directors-Cut/dp/B00116VG46/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1268784322&sr=8-3) and even though I don't know if 911 was a cover up something is very odd. I am all for the US heck I'm a United States Marine but something really wrong happened on 911 and I don't believe a lot of the stuff that happened.

Mighty-Lu-Bu

That film is years old, and numerous claims, such as the "pods," have been very conclusively debunked.

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#119 hamstergeddon
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It's a.... possbility
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#120 IRunNewYork
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zzeitgeist made me think a lil

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#121 SapSacPrime
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No and I think you should move forward instead of obsessing about it, Muslim extremists don't like you deal with it.

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#122 LZ71
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For the thousandth time, no. It's been debunked hundreds of times.
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#123 PannicAtack
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zzeitgeist made me think a lil

IRunNewYork
The pinnacle of dishonest filmmaking made you think?
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#124 LZ71
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zzeitgeist made me think a lil

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Zeitgeist...don't believe any of that crap that they tried to pass off as truth.
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#125 deactivated-601cef9eca9e5
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Yeah but I have seen other stuff too besides the film. In history numerous other buildings have burned for hours even days and they never collapsed and the towers collapsed after just like what 45 min or something and they are the only buildings in history to ever do that. Kinda sketchy. And fire fighters and cops said they saw flashes inside the building when it was going down and I'm not a demo expert but I do know enough that the towers came down in a controlled manner, very similar to the demo of a building. There is a lot of shadiness surrounding 911. And with the whole Pentagon how the plane clipped the tops off some light poles and like a few days earlier air force one did something similar but it ripped the light poles out, it didn't clip the tops off. They didn't find the right plane parts in any of the crash sites either. And I forget his name but the owner of the towers like 2 weeks before 911 got an insane insurance claim for the buildings specially in case of disaster and terrorist attacks. This is all sketchy, I'm a Marine and I am saying this is sketchy and it just doesn't rub me the right way.

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#126 PannicAtack
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Yeah but I have seen other stuff too besides the film. In history numerous other buildings have burned for hours even days and they never collapsed and the towers collapsed after just like what 45 min or something and they are the only buildings in history to ever do that. Kinda sketchy. And fire fighters and cops said they saw flashes inside the building when it was going down and I'm not a demo expert but I do know enough that the towers came down in a controlled manner, very similar to the demo of a building. There is a lot of shadiness surrounding 911. And with the whole Pentagon how the plane clipped the tops off some light poles and like a few days earlier air force one did something similar but it ripped the light poles out, it didn't clip the tops off. They didn't find the right plane parts in any of the crash sites either. And I forget his name but the owner of the towers like 2 weeks before 911 got an insane insurance claim for the buildings specially in case of disaster and terrorist attacks. This is all sketchy, I'm a Marine and I am saying this is sketchy and it just doesn't rub me the wrong way.

Mighty-Lu-Bu

Several problems.

1. The towers did not fall in a way even remotely resembling a controlled demolition.

2. The light poles did not just have the tops clipped off. The poles came off all the way. As a matter of fact, they're designed to do just that.

3. The towers were not simply on fire, but they'd sustained a great deal of damage from planes crashing into them

4. Kader Toy Factory. Collapsed due to fire and nothing else.

5. Considering that the towers had been attacked by terrorists before, I don't think that having an insurance claim is particularly "insane." Also, considering the obvious loss in tenancy due to there not being a building, as well as the cost of rebuilding, I think that'd qualify as the worst insure scam ever.

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#127 deactivated-5c37d3adcd094
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[QUOTE="ThePlothole"][QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Are they still sticking with the story that they found the passports of the pilots in the debris of the towers? Cause if they are, I'm still on the fence.guitarshr3dd3r

The only passport even claimed to have been on one of the planes that flew into the towers was said to have fallen to the street and collected prior to the collapse. Two more were recovered from flight flight 93, which is the one that went down in the Pennsylvania field. The final passport was found in a piece of luggage that wasn't on board any of the planes.

Did they identify who the passport was for?

Eventually. It took them a few months to master the intricate opening mechanism.
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#128 fenwickhotmail
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This is the worst conspiracy theory ever. wstfld
True.
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#129 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="wstfld"]This is the worst conspiracy theory ever. fenwickhotmail
True.

Nah. Moon Landing and Obama Birth Certificate are worse.
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#130 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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You know what's kind of funny? People always liken George Bush to a chimp. He's portrayed as an enormous moron. Yet, these same people believe that he was capable of pulling of the most brilliant conspiracy of all time. Yes, that makes sense. Bush is this incredible criminal mastermind that has us all fooled.. . . .

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#131 fenwickhotmail
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[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"][QUOTE="wstfld"]This is the worst conspiracy theory ever. PannicAtack
True.

Nah. Moon Landing and Obama Birth Certificate are worse.

Oh God I forgot about the Moon landing one. That one's just annoying. Also, the Illumini one is equally stupid, the one where people think political and cooperative leaders are part of a world group :|
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#132 ZombiefiedZomB
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I never saw 9/11 as an inside job.
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#133 mattbbpl
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:lol: No. :lol:Theokhoth
Ah, I was looking for your response. I didn't think you'd be able to resist.
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#134 mattbbpl
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[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"][QUOTE="wstfld"]This is the worst conspiracy theory ever. PannicAtack
True.

Nah. Moon Landing and Obama Birth Certificate are worse.

I'm going with HAARP causing the Haitian Earthquake. I still can't believe that anyone swallows that. It's completely ridiculous.

And now I wait for someone to tell me, "That's what they WANT you to think!"
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#135 GabuEx
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I'm going with HAARP causing the Haitian Earthquake. I still can't believe that anyone swallows that. It's completely ridiculous.mattbbpl

Anytime a theory involves the phrase "earthquake machine", you know that it's time to step back a bit and reflect.

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#136 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I'm going with HAARP causing the Haitian Earthquake. I still can't believe that anyone swallows that. It's completely ridiculous.GabuEx

Anytime a theory involves the phrase "earthquake machine", you know that it's time to step back a bit and reflect.

Man, there was one person on the Team Fortress 2 forums at the time that people were voting for community maps, and one person was so very upset that someone had named their map after HAARP.
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#137 Curlyfrii87
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absolutely NOT.

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#138 Silverbond
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What is the rationale behind bombing yourself?

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#139 JwresB
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So in other words the TC is just an idiot. Am I right?

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#140 chris_yz80
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I honestly don't know.

My gut tells me, NO. because keeping such a massive job a total secret would be almost impossible.

The ONLY thing that bugs me is the way in which the towers fell. It looked exactly like a building being professionally demolished. Of course, it could have just fallen this way...

I dont know. Neither option would surprise me.

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it just fell that way, structural analysis theory explains it very well, basically columns are only designed to take 1 floor otherwise they defelect and bend to much, that combined with a fire that heated the structure which was made of steel caused the columns to fail roughly at the same timeand collapse so evenly

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#141 chris_yz80
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oh and an interesting fact the towers were so tall at the time of construction that there were fears a 707 could crash into them, as such they designed them to withstand a 707 crash.
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#143 F1_2004
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In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...
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#144 guitarshr3dd3r
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No and I think you should move forward instead of obsessing about it, Muslim extremists don't like you deal with it.

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Just to clear things up, you do know that wha they did was completely against Islam right?
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#145 GabuEx
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In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...F1_2004

Huh? Experts in relevant fields have published in-depth analyses of what happened on 9/11, all of which corroborate the official explanation and discount the theories put forth by conspiracy theorists, the most prominent of which being the well-known article in Popular Mechanics. What additional proof is needed?

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#146 F1_2004
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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...GabuEx

Huh? Experts in relevant fields have published in-depth analyses of what happened on 9/11, all of which corroborate the official explanation and discount the theories put forth by conspiracy theorists, the most prominent of which being the well-known article in Popular Mechanics. What additional proof is needed?

That's way off, buddy. A lot of experts disagree.
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#147 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...F1_2004

Huh? Experts in relevant fields have published in-depth analyses of what happened on 9/11, all of which corroborate the official explanation and discount the theories put forth by conspiracy theorists, the most prominent of which being the well-known article in Popular Mechanics. What additional proof is needed?

That's way off, buddy. A lot of experts disagree.

I asked a simple question: what additional proof is needed?

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#148 F1_2004
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There's a lot of things that don't add up. You want me to type out a 100-page report on it right now or what? It's all on the internet in journals if you're willing to look. Or maybe I can just link to an article on it in Cosmo magazine, bout as convincing as an article on Popular Mechanics.

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#149 GabuEx
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There's a lot of things that don't add up. You want me to type out a 100-page report on it right now or what? It's all on the internet in journals if you're willing to look. Or maybe I can just link to an article on it in Cosmo magazine, bout as convincing as an article on Popular Mechanics.

F1_2004

So... what additional proof is needed?

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#150 Pixel-Pirate
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I voted maybe.

We had a thread like this a few months back. Turned into a screaming match with anti-conspiracy types saying anyone who even fancies the possibility of it being an inside job should be shot.