Do you belive 9/11 was a inside job?

I voted maybe.

We had a thread like this a few months back. Turned into a screaming match with anti-conspiracy types saying anyone who even fancies the possibility of it being an inside job should be shot.

Pixel-Pirate

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I voted maybe.

We had a thread like this a few months back. Turned into a screaming match with anti-conspiracy types saying anyone who even fancies the possibility of it being an inside job should be shot.

Assassin1349

Ventrillo, of course.

It is just shady. Period. If you dont think it is then you are a lacking. Everyone who I have served with even think that 911 was a cover up. If the people that protect are country think its a cover then it probably is a cover up.

It is just shady. Period. If you dont think it is then you are a lacking. Everyone who I have served with even think that 911 was a cover up. If the people that protect are country think its a cover then it probably is a cover up.

Mighty-Lu-Bu

it depends...it was inside of an airplane which was flying outside but flew inside of a building...so I guess its both.

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It is just shady. Period. If you dont think it is then you are a lacking. Everyone who I have served with even think that 911 was a cover up. If the people that protect are country think its a cover then it probably is a cover up.

Dasacant

Just go here. http://911proof.com/index

[QUOTE="Dasacant"][QUOTE="Mighty-Lu-Bu"]

It is just shady. Period. If you dont think it is then you are a lacking. Everyone who I have served with even think that 911 was a cover up. If the people that protect are country think its a cover then it probably is a cover up.

Mighty-Lu-Bu

Just go here. http://911proof.com/index

50%/50% - It's difficult to think the U.S. couldn't catch Bin Laden and we captured a harder target like Saddam.

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[QUOTE="Dasacant"] That's terrible logic. I don't see how anyone, by simply serving, has more credibility on this issue then the many experts who have thoroughly debunked these conspiracies. Dasacant

Just go here. http://911proof.com/index

Heres a fact: Read this. That actually happened.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html

That is shady. Enough said.

It's possible but no. What I believe is that -We knew it was coming -The terrorists put explosives at the foundation of the building and blew up thats why the towers fell vertically(steel softening(damn so technical....:roll:.) thing is i think b.s. and arguable O_o)

MrLions

Are they still sticking with the story that they found the passports of the pilots in the debris of the towers? Cause if they are, I'm still on the fence.PS2_ROCKS

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]Are they still sticking with the story that they found the passports of the pilots in the debris of the towers? Cause if they are, I'm still on the fence.Fuhgeddabouditt

[QUOTE="Dasacant"][QUOTE="Mighty-Lu-Bu"]

Just go here. http://911proof.com/index

Mighty-Lu-Bu

Heres a fact: Read this. That actually happened.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html

That is shady. Enough said.

[QUOTE="Dasacant"][QUOTE="Mighty-Lu-Bu"]

Just go here. http://911proof.com/index

Mighty-Lu-Bu

Heres a fact: Read this. That actually happened.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/silverstein.html

That is shady. Enough said.

It was a total controlled explosion. I'm an 0351 Assualtman in the Marines and I work with demo charges. 911 was a controlled explosion and the funny thing is that that building is meant to withstand explosions and fire. Which means someone knew exactly where to put the explosives to exploit the weaknesses of the building. Numerous witnessess including fire personell and police officers saw flashes coming from windows.

I totally agree with Lu Bu about this and that whole Silverstein (sp) business. The man makes a huge insurance claim on the towers epecially in the case of "terroist attacks". His company gets like 7.something billion dollars way more than enough to build new towers and still have some money over. People are so freaking close minded! They didn't even find the right plane parts at the crash sites are you kidding me?! And plus what about witnessess changing their stories?

Numerous witnessess including fire personell and police officers saw flashes coming from windows.

Mecha_Frieza

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

Mecha_Frieza

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

Mecha_Frieza

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A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

PannicAtack

Actually yeah. That's 100% right, they would have shot down commercial passenger planes in a second. And no it doesn't seem wrong, 300 something people die so thousands can live.

[QUOTE="Mecha_Frieza"]

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

racer8dan

Exactly!

[QUOTE="Mecha_Frieza"]

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Mecha_Frieza"]

A terrorist attack of the airborne nature is impossible. Military would NEVER let freaking planes come into a major city like that, they steer way of course and no one notices them because our military are conducting training exercises the same day as 911? Are you kidding me?!

Fuhgeddabouditt

People are just so oblivious. Its actually really scary.

People are just so oblivious. Its actually really scary.

Mecha_Frieza

And what about the phoney 911 calls. Even the families didn't believe it.

And what about the phoney 911 calls. Even the families didn't believe it.

Mecha_Frieza

And what about the phoney 911 calls. Even the families didn't believe it.

Mecha_Frieza

Just want to mention, di you guys know that the planes that left from the airport, I believe in Dallas, was an airport owned or run by George Bushes son?guitarshr3dd3r

People are just so oblivious. Its actually really scary.

Mecha_Frieza

It really is. People will believe whatever makes them feel the safest, no matter what common sense suggests.

i'm gonna guess the people that think the WTC were blown up by bombs failed physics in high school

but to answer your question no because there is no evidence to support that the government did except that... uhh there isn't any

[QUOTE="Mecha_Frieza"]

People are just so oblivious. Its actually really scary.

mastershakez

It really is. People will believe whatever makes them feel the safest, no matter what common sense suggests.

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[QUOTE="Mecha_Frieza"]

People are just so oblivious. Its actually really scary.

Dasacant

It really is. People will believe whatever makes them feel the safest, no matter what common sense suggests.

It was a generalised statement, not specifically pertaining the to topic at hand. I've already stated in this thread that I will not be arguing over this topic. Believe whatever you want, and I will do the same.

In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...F1_2004

[QUOTE="Dasacant"][QUOTE="mastershakez"]

It really is. People will believe whatever makes them feel the safest, no matter what common sense suggests.

mastershakez

It was a generalised statement, not specifically pertaining the to topic at hand. I've already stated in this thread that I will not be arguing over this topic. Believe whatever you want, and I will do the same.

Looking at the facts.

Does anyone think that after the planes hit the buildings and the buildings came down into dust that they found a intact ID card from one of the highjackers. who is alive and well in another country on camera with the same face. Somehow got through the airports with boxcutters and hit the most secured building in the world? They could find his ID laying the rubble of New York, but couldn't find the black box for the plane? They could match DNA samples from the chaos but find a ID card and still couldn't find the black box? Thats what they said.That isn't even 98% of it, read the report.

The evidence points to absolute 100% distortion of the truth. I'm not saying the US government was behind it, as I think it is a classic staged false flag operation performed by an expert group.

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]In terms of structural analysis of the failure of the buildings and all the investigations involved with it, the US government acted very suspiciously and secretly with respect to releasing information and being transparent, so that makes me very suspicious. They could easily instantly disprove all the conspiracies if they wanted to (and if there really wasn't anything to hide)...chris_yz80

Looking at the facts.

Does anyone think that after the planes hit the buildings and the buildings came down into dust that they found a intact ID card from one of the highjackers. who is alive and well in another country on camera with the same face. Somehow got through the airports with boxcutters and hit the most secured building in the world? They could find his ID laying the rubble of New York, but couldn't find the black box for the plane? They could match DNA samples from the chaos but find a ID card and still couldn't find the black box? Thats what they said.That isn't even 98% of it, read the report.

The evidence points to absolute 100% distortion of the truth. I'm not saying the US government was behind it, as I think it is a classic staged false flag operation performed by an expert group.

jamesgj

And the thing about "somehow got through the airports with boxcutters" bit is annoying, because of course you could get a boxcutter on a plane, because at that time, regulations were that you could take a blade less than two inches onboard. You're applying post 9/11 mentality with a pre-9/11 world, and that doesn't work.

Also, the "living hijackers" bit has been debunked. A long time ago.

Looking at the facts.

Does anyone think that after the planes hit the buildings and the buildings came down into dust that they found a intact ID card from one of the highjackers. who is alive and well in another country on camera with the same face. Somehow got through the airports with boxcutters and hit the most secured building in the world? They could find his ID laying the rubble of New York, but couldn't find the black box for the plane? They could match DNA samples from the chaos but find a ID card and still couldn't find the black box? Thats what they said.That isn't even 98% of it, read the report.

The evidence points to absolute 100% distortion of the truth. I'm not saying the US government was behind it, as I think it is a classic staged false flag operation performed by an expert group.

jamesgj

Firmly believe that it was an inside job, there are too many anomalies;

- CCTV footage from outside the Pentagon was taken and it's never been released since

- Flight 93 crash site lacked ANY wreckage

- Building 7 was clearly pulled by explosives;

- The Pentagon completely lacked ANY wreckage and the damage shown was impossible due to the wing size of the plane itself

- The towers fell at near free fall speed, that's impossible due to the floors below.

- The President himself said that he saw the first plane go into the tower live on tv...impossible since it live footage never shown until AFTER it hit.

[QUOTE="jamesgj"]

Looking at the facts.

Does anyone think that after the planes hit the buildings and the buildings came down into dust that they found a intact ID card from one of the highjackers. who is alive and well in another country on camera with the same face. Somehow got through the airports with boxcutters and hit the most secured building in the world? They could find his ID laying the rubble of New York, but couldn't find the black box for the plane? They could match DNA samples from the chaos but find a ID card and still couldn't find the black box? Thats what they said.That isn't even 98% of it, read the report.

The evidence points to absolute 100% distortion of the truth. I'm not saying the US government was behind it, as I think it is a classic staged false flag operation performed by an expert group.

PannicAtack

And the thing about "somehow got through the airports with boxcutters" bit is annoying, because of course you could get a boxcutter on a plane, because at that time, regulations were that you could take a blade less than two inches onboard. You're applying post 9/11 mentality with a pre-9/11 world, and that doesn't work.

Also, the "living hijackers" bit has been debunked. A long time ago.

Yeah after that massive ball of fire it was ejected out of the plane. That makes absolute no common logic. If you buy this then I know there is no helping you.

Black box was never found, we don't know where its at.

Also the terroist left a bag full of information with plans in it to perform acts of terror. Gee, wonder why there was a Quran in there to? Please use logic.

- Flight 93 crash site lacked ANY wreckage

MushroomWig

Firmly believe that it was an inside job, there are too many anomalies;

- CCTV footage from outside the Pentagon was taken and it's never been released since

- Flight 93 crash site lacked ANY wreckage

- Building 7 was clearly pulled by explosives;

- The Pentagon completely lacked ANY wreckage and the damage shown was impossible due to the wing size of the plane itself

- The towers fell at near free fall speed, that's impossible due to the floors below.

- The President himself said that he saw the first plane go into the tower live on tv...impossible since it live footage never shown until AFTER it hit.

MushroomWig

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="jamesgj"]

Looking at the facts.

Does anyone think that after the planes hit the buildings and the buildings came down into dust that they found a intact ID card from one of the highjackers. who is alive and well in another country on camera with the same face. Somehow got through the airports with boxcutters and hit the most secured building in the world? They could find his ID laying the rubble of New York, but couldn't find the black box for the plane? They could match DNA samples from the chaos but find a ID card and still couldn't find the black box? Thats what they said.That isn't even 98% of it, read the report.

The evidence points to absolute 100% distortion of the truth. I'm not saying the US government was behind it, as I think it is a classic staged false flag operation performed by an expert group.

jamesgj

And the thing about "somehow got through the airports with boxcutters" bit is annoying, because of course you could get a boxcutter on a plane, because at that time, regulations were that you could take a blade less than two inches onboard. You're applying post 9/11 mentality with a pre-9/11 world, and that doesn't work.

Also, the "living hijackers" bit has been debunked. A long time ago.

Yeah after that massive ball of fire it was ejected out of the plane. That makes absolute no common logic. If you buy this then I know there is no helping you.

Black box was never found, we don't know where its at.

Also the terroist left a bag full of information with plans in it to perform acts of terror. Gee, wonder why there was a Quran in there to? Please use logic.