Do you belive in God??????????

ARE THERE ANY GODS??????

Nay

I believe in him, so there.

I believe in him, so there.

Vac87

he doesn't believe in you

used to be a diest.

but now, im pretty sure im an athiest.

Not really. Maybe, but I have incredibly strong doubts.

Nah!

I am so convinced otherwise that my answer will be a strong "no." If there is divine intervention in the universe, it will be a long time before we are able to prove such a thing. Even then, I think it is very unlikely.

Nope.

used to be a devoted catholic when younger, then I had some sense into my head and now I'm an agnostic atheist

Nah!

jerk-o-tron2000

Nope.

Sure.

Nope. I wonder why it seems like everyone on the internet is athest but in real life everyone is religious

Nope. I wonder why it seems like everyone on the internet is athest but in real life everyone is religious

BPoole96

I've noticed that a lot of the people who avidly use it these days have quite a few related traits. For instance, they're rather skeptical about a lot of things. Especially if you don't have pictures of it.

I answer positively yes to both.

Negative

You don't need to hold down "?" every time you ask a question.

No. It makes the universe more fascinating and life both more intriguing and more important.

I wonder why it seems like everyone on the internet is athest but in real life everyone is religiousBPoole96

No. It makes the universe more fascinating and life both more intriguing and more important.

RandomWinner

Important to a product of the universe which was given no purpose meaning or the like other than what it put on itself based on its surroundings and genetic makeup which built and characterised you and your world view today right?

Not I.

Used to believe pretty strongly but I now consider myself an atheist.

What?VanHelsingBoA64

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No. It makes the universe more fascinating and life both more intriguing and more important.

Philokalia

Important to a product of the universe which was given no purpose meaning or the like other than what it put on itself based on its surroundings and genetic makeup which built and characterised you and your world view today right?

All a consequence of unpredictable yet inevitable circumstance, exactly. You pretty much nailed it, yet, tragically, we disagree. I believe free will is just the inability to realize one's motives, but I think that the fact that an individual has the power to consciously interpret and be a part of a changing environment is incredibly fascinating. How could anything be more important than life if it is the only chance for us to interact with the world?

I know you are trying to undermine my point by basically making my argument, saying that you understand it, and thereby nulifying it. From where your standing, that's legit, because my belief comes from the same words. They just mean something different to me than you, and that doesn't make either of us wrong. That's the definition of subjectivity.

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No. It makes the universe more fascinating and life both more intriguing and more important.

RandomWinner

Important to a product of the universe which was given no purpose meaning or the like other than what it put on itself based on its surroundings and genetic makeup which built and characterised you and your world view today right?

All a consequence of unpredictable yet inevitable circumstance, exactly. You pretty much nailed it, yet, tragically, we disagree. I believe free will is just the inability to realize one's motives, but I think that the fact that an individual has the power to consciously interpret and be a part of a changing environment is incredibly fascinating. How could anything be more important than life if it is the only chance for us to interact with the world?

I know you are trying to undermine my point by basically making my argument, saying that you understand it, and thereby nulifying it. From where your standing, that's legit, because my belief comes from the same words. They just mean something different to me than you, and that doesn't make either of us wrong. That's the definition of subjectivity.

All a consequence of unpredictable yet inevitable circumstance, exactly. You pretty much nailed it, yet, tragically, we disagree. I believe free will is just the inability to realize one's motives, but I think that the fact that an individual has the power to consciously interpret and be a part of a changing environment is incredibly fascinating. How could anything be more important than life if it is the only chance for us to interact with the world?

I know you are trying to undermine my point by basically making my argument, saying that you understand it, and thereby nulifying it. From where your standing, that's legit, because my belief comes from the same words. They just mean something different to me than you, and that doesn't make either of us wrong. That's the definition of subjectivity.

RandomWinner

No im just trying to be clear. This is just your perception which says the world was not created with any meaning or design or thought, and we are a result of that process of the natural order of things and we trying to find order and real meaning in life is just our pathetic attempt at it right? Im not going to debate whether life is important or not, I know why life is important, but I just want to understand what you say and would you agree with my statement? If not, what have I got wrong.

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All a consequence of unpredictable yet inevitable circumstance, exactly. You pretty much nailed it, yet, tragically, we disagree. I believe free will is just the inability to realize one's motives, but I think that the fact that an individual has the power to consciously interpret and be a part of a changing environment is incredibly fascinating. How could anything be more important than life if it is the only chance for us to interact with the world?

I know you are trying to undermine my point by basically making my argument, saying that you understand it, and thereby nulifying it. From where your standing, that's legit, because my belief comes from the same words. They just mean something different to me than you, and that doesn't make either of us wrong. That's the definition of subjectivity.

Philokalia

No im just trying to be clear. This is just your perception which says the world was not created with any meaning or design or thought, and we are a result of that process of the natural order of things and we trying to find order and real meaning in life is just our pathetic attempt at it right? Im not going to debate whether life is important or not, I know why life is important, but I just want to understand what you say and would you agree with my statement? If not, what have I got wrong.

I agree with you up until you say that finding meaning in life is just a pathetic attempt. I agree we are a result of the process of the natural order of things though. I'm not looking for a debate either, and there wouldn't be one because we both agree life is important!

I got hostile, unleashing my duel paragraphs, because you made it come across as we, as individuals, are unimportant. That we too are a product of the natural order, which I agree with, but I believe you can look at it one of two ways. The first is that, if everything is a result of natural processes, nothing is meaningful or important. The second is that what is and is not important is more local. Our awareness of the environment as we effect it is what makes every individual important. That's where I'm coming from.

I agree with you up until you say that finding meaning in life is just a pathetic attempt. I agree we are a result of the process of the natural order of things though. I'm not looking for a debate either, and there wouldn't be one because we both agree life is important!

I got hostile, unleashing my duel paragraphs, because you made it come across as we, as individuals, are unimportant. That we too are a product of the natural order, which I agree with, but I believe you can look at it one of two ways. The first is that, if everything is a result of natural processes, nothing is meaningful or important. The second is that what is and is not important is more local. Our awareness of the environment as we effect it is what makes every individual important. That's where I'm coming from.

RandomWinner

Are you willing to submit its just your viewpoint based on a world which has no inherent meaning and did not create you for any such meaning?

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I agree with you up until you say that finding meaning in life is just a pathetic attempt. I agree we are a result of the process of the natural order of things though. I'm not looking for a debate either, and there wouldn't be one because we both agree life is important!

I got hostile, unleashing my duel paragraphs, because you made it come across as we, as individuals, are unimportant. That we too are a product of the natural order, which I agree with, but I believe you can look at it one of two ways. The first is that, if everything is a result of natural processes, nothing is meaningful or important. The second is that what is and is not important is more local. Our awareness of the environment as we effect it is what makes every individual important. That's where I'm coming from.

Philokalia

Are you willing to submit its just your viewpoint based on a world which has no inherent meaning and did not create you for any such meaning?

Hmmmmmm.... tricky tricky.

Yes, I am.

Hmmmmmm.... tricky tricky.

Yes, I am.

RandomWinner

Thanks and thus I let others to conclude. I know I have.

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Hmmmmmm.... tricky tricky.

Yes, I am.

Philokalia

Thanks and thus I let others to conclude. I know I have.

GAH! Now I'm curious, what did you conclude! I've enjoyed this!

The universe revolves around me, I am the only one with my consciousness in particular!

GAH! Now I'm curious, what did you conclude! I've enjoyed this!

The universe revolves around me, I am the only one with my consciousness in particular!

RandomWinner

Another time, im not in the mood. But think about it. How is your meaning greater than that which made you? That is the world which had no reason other than the natural for making you.

Yup. The Triune God of the Bible, specifically.mindstorm