Do you belive in God??????????

Nope. I wonder why it seems like everyone on the internet is athest but in real life everyone is religious

BPoole96

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] You sound so certain... How can you be sure?Krelian-co

yeah, the writtings of the follower who thought he was god and was later revised and edited by the church, why would they have any reason to exagerate things?

Also, i don't know about you but gotta love the "if someone wrote it, it must be true", WE ALL KNOW people never lie or exagerate things.

I might not agree with a lot of what mindstorm says but I will admit he is one intelligent fellow.

Anyway, I don't really believe in God.

Nope.

Gods or god like entities could exist out there somewhere, however the thought of a personal god similiar the abrahamic religions is in my opinion, ridiculas.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

used to be a diest.

but now, im pretty sure im an athiest.

Teenaged

the hell is leftism?

off to google i go

...

ah politics stuff. dont get into politics at all.

100% yes. And yes.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] As I read such passages as Luke 1:1-4 I hold to the stance that the statement is not a complete lie. The passage states this, "Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught." This passage is the introduction the to Gospel of Luke which describes the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. If this account is true, which I believe it is, then there not only exists a God but a God who has made himself known to us.mindstorm

yeah, the writtings of the follower who thought he was god and was later revised and edited by the church, why would they have any reason to exagerate things?

Also, i don't know about you but gotta love the "if someone wrote it, it must be true", WE ALL KNOW people never lie or exagerate things.

thats basically what i posted, when you have any real evidence, let me know. i don't have to disprove anything, the ones making the claim are the ones who have to prove it, right now, you guys haven't proved anything besides you believe in a very old book.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

yeah, the writtings of the follower who thought he was god and was later revised and edited by the church, why would they have any reason to exagerate things?

Also, i don't know about you but gotta love the "if someone wrote it, it must be true", WE ALL KNOW people never lie or exagerate things.

Krelian-co

right back at ya.

No, I don't believe there is a God or Gods.

However I wont rule out the possibility that there could be. We know so little about the universe that a lot of things that we think are impossible (e.g. an omnipotent being like a God) are actually true.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

used to be a diest.

but now, im pretty sure im an athiest.

konvikt_17

the hell is leftism?

off to google i go

...

ah politics stuff. dont get into politics at all.

Leftism is very left field upon inspection.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

yeah, the writtings of the follower who thought he was god and was later revised and edited by the church, why would they have any reason to exagerate things?

Also, i don't know about you but gotta love the "if someone wrote it, it must be true", WE ALL KNOW people never lie or exagerate things.

Krelian-co

thats basically what i posted, when you have any real evidence, let me know. i don't have to disprove anything, the ones making the claim are the ones who have to prove it, right now, you guys haven't proved anything besides you believe in a very old book.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you have any evidence of these things, let me know. Also, I am very much aware of these supposed revisions and the closest things to varying manuscripts are completely inconsequential.mindstorm

thats basically what i posted, when you have any real evidence, let me know. i don't have to disprove anything, the ones making the claim are the ones who have to prove it, right now, you guys haven't proved anything besides you believe in a very old book.

[QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you have any evidence of these things, let me know. Also, I am very much aware of these supposed revisions and the closest things to varying manuscripts are completely inconsequential.mindstorm

thats basically what i posted, when you have any real evidence, let me know. i don't have to disprove anything, the ones making the claim are the ones who have to prove it, right now, you guys haven't proved anything besides you believe in a very old book.

and what proof you have the "scriptures" are true? you believe in them, go ahead, don't come as if everyone should take them as true for no reason at all or use them as your "proof".

So i wonder what basis do you have to say beyond reasonable doubt that they are true? Because i have not yet seen why i or anyone else should trust anything it says beyond mere speculation and assumptions.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="Krelian-co"]

thats basically what i posted, when you have any real evidence, let me know. i don't have to disprove anything, the ones making the claim are the ones who have to prove it, right now, you guys haven't proved anything besides you believe in a very old book.

toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I said my basis was in the Scriptures. I was told that I was wrong. I have not yet seen why I should not trust the Scriptures beyond mere speculation and assumptions.mindstorm

It seems your reason to follow the scriptures is because the scriptures tell you to.

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Thats a big if.

It seems your reason to follow the scriptures is because the scriptures tell you to.

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toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]Thats a big if.

It seems your reason to follow the scriptures is because the scriptures tell you to.

Over used picture time

mindstorm

And the misspelling of "atheism" continues.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Thats a big if.

It seems your reason to follow the scriptures is because the scriptures tell you to.

Over used picture time

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] I said my basis was in the Scriptures. I was told that I was wrong. I have not yet seen why I should not trust the Scriptures beyond mere speculation and assumptions.mindstorm

so basically you are still using the bible to prove the bible is true:lol:

perfectly logic and scientific approach.

you have only proved people will believe what they want to believe.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you look, the "if" was for why I should, not for why I do. All of the reasons for why I do believe does not all originate from the Scriptures though the Scriptures certainly is my starting point.mindstorm

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you look, the "if" was for why I should, not for why I do. All of the reasons for why I do believe does not all originate from the Scriptures though the Scriptures certainly is my starting point.mindstorm

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="mindstorm"] If you look, the "if" was for why I should, not for why I do. All of the reasons for why I do believe does not all originate from the Scriptures though the Scriptures certainly is my starting point.mindstorm

religious people are comedy gold. i do think the bible and religion in general are placebos, for people in need, you sound like you needed something in your life so you took the placebo of religion to overcome it. While it is one of the few positive things religion has, you did it for the wrong reasons, but to each his own, w/e works for you.

To quote myself from earlier, "As for why I do, I have studied the Scriptures extensively and people's views of the Scriptures, I know what it means for Jesus to change my heart and life, I have seen the power of Christ work in the lives of others, and from a more philosophical standpoint I cannot comprehend how everything that exists and has come to be could be accomplished apart from a divine creator and sustainer." But really, I simply cannot comprehend that any other reality might be true. I find that the worldview presented within the Bible is one that is not only logical but gives a rather exceptional explanation for how the world works. Whether it be both the good and bad capabilities of man (i.e., good anthropology), the nature of how idolatry can cause such strife in a person's life and the worship of God can give so much hope, or the ability for the gospel of Jesus Christ to so transform a person's life, I cannot imagine that the gospel as according to the Scriptures be a simple lie. Not only this, but I have seen how the worship of God has changed my own life. I am not the person I once was and I cannot imagine that the teachings of the Bible to be no more than a placebo. mindstorm

I have not cared to study scriptures at all, rather taking from the culture of the church and finding their practices and beliefs to be illogical and rooted in superstition and pseudoscience, relying too heavily on coincidence and, in the end, being an avenue of comfort for one's life so they feel the world to be a magical place. It's akin to psychadelic drugs, in which people who honestly believe subsequently subscribe to the notion that there is something unexplainable in the universe that's invisible to everyone, moving everything around in a mystical manner.

It does not give too great of an outlook on life, though. In fact, as far as the Bible goes, there's an overhanging cynicism about the ability of humanity, that there needs to be some surrogate force to give it the ability to be a positive influence. This degrades humanity too much, opening ways for people to think less of themselves and not realize their true potential (humans being sinners who only live because of a mystical force) and thus thinks of people as basically evil, whether they admit it or not.

I, on the other hand, think people are basically good, and that morals can come from the person and machinations of society, as well as culture. There is absolutely no need for a mystical force to make these things possible.

So that's how I feel about this.

OP asked If you believed in God he didn't ask for your little arguments, If you wanna argue then be the loser that makes another Christian vs Non Believers thread.

OP asked If you believed in God he didn't ask for your little arguments, If you wanna argue then be the loser that makes another Christian vs Non Believers thread.

ThisIsTwoFace

You must be new here.

yes, but i do not think that any of the religions are correct.

I believe that there are no gods other than God.

He believes in you.

I'm gonna say I believe in god today, just for the sake of variety.

I'm gonna say I believe in god today, just for the sake of variety.

Jackc8

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Yup. The Triune God of the Bible, specifically.mindstorm

I don't believe in something which has no evidence; I'm not a sheep or an idiot....

this is pretty much how i feel

www.youtube.com/watch?v=R66r_XMoDkk&feature=relmfu

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0F9b_o3uBk&feature=related

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Yes. There is no way that our life is essentially meaningless. Life is too beautiful of a thing to be meaningless.

Yes. There is no way that our life is essentially meaningless. Life is too beautiful of a thing to be meaningless.

kingkong0124

Erm, you don't need God to have that sentiment.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Yes. There is no way that our life is essentially meaningless. Life is too beautiful of a thing to be meaningless.

THE_DRUGGIE

Erm, you don't need God to have that sentiment.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Yes. There is no way that our life is essentially meaningless. Life is too beautiful of a thing to be meaningless.

kingkong0124

Erm, you don't need God to have that sentiment.

But do you have to believe in a god to believe that there's more to our existence than just this life?

Define GodSteverXIII

As this point of time, there no mean full discussion considering god existence.alexside1

[QUOTE="alexside1"]As this point of time, there no mean full discussion considering god existence.Nibroc420

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="alexside1"]As this point of time, there no mean full discussion considering god existence.alexside1

You might need to rephrase that.
No-one needs to hand hold religion while it makes itself look bad, religion can do that one solo.