Do you belive in God??????????

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Yes but you saying they aren't adding anything to the thread, isn't exactly adding much either. You're just as bad if not worse than them.

toast_burner

by acting like an even dumber dick you're going to make them feel like dumb dicks? All you're doing is making them look like saints in comparison to you.

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[QUOTE="m25105"] If you say so, maybe it just bugs me that any thread that has anything to do with religion, will always get visited by the usual suspects jumping on anyone that posts they believe in God, and this is my response to them, hoping they will see for themselves that they're acting like dumb dicks.m25105

by acting like an even dumber dick you're going to make them feel like dumb dicks? All you're doing is making them look like saints in comparison to you.

ok I was wrong. You're not acting.

[QUOTE="m25105"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

by acting like an even dumber dick you're going to make them feel like dumb dicks? All you're doing is making them look like saints in comparison to you.

toast_burner

ok I was wrong. You're not acting.

I ain't got nothing more to say to you.m25105

*gasp*

You made me denounce my atheism and call upon God. What a joyous day that is!

Yes..... I do

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]Yes I do. This whole universe is too big and great for it to have gotten here on its own.l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="helwa1988"]Yes I do. This whole universe is too big and great for it to have gotten here on its own.helwa1988

That makes just as much sense as what you said.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] mhm. Isn't god bigger and greater than the universe? If so, then how the hell did he get here on his own? toast_burner

That makes just as much sense as what you said.

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[QUOTE="helwa1988"] God has no creator. He is the creator. He has always been there. God is not anything in this universe.playmynutz

That makes just as much sense as what you said.

That's it, there's no mystery. Why is it so bad to believe possibly their is a fire breathing dragon right behind you? Oh I get it. There needs to be mathematical proof before you believe in something. Sounds like a barrier to me because nothing is real unless it is proven. A barrier as in no imagination since that stuff can't be realplaymynutz

Since you can never prove a negative the burden of proof lies on those making the positive claim that any God or Gods exist. And right now, there is no evidence of the existence of any Gods.

If you want to believe in the existence of nerve-gas-farting pink dragons because no one has yet proved that they DON'T exist, then go right ahead. Knock yourself out. But it would be foolish to presume that other people should assume this - or even respect this opinion about it - absent rational, objective proof or argument.

[QUOTE="playmynutz"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]There's a fire breathing dragon right behind you, but it disapears when ever you try to look at it.

That makes just as much sense as what you said.

toast_burner

Yes, I do.

Yes. There is no way that our life is essentially meaningless. Life is too beautiful of a thing to be meaningless.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

Yes..... I do

Iszdope

You just decide now?!?

Wow.

Not quite

There is God sometimes. VanHelsingBoA64

[QUOTE="playmynutz"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]There's a fire breathing dragon right behind you, but it disapears when ever you try to look at it.

That makes just as much sense as what you said.

toast_burner

Yes,Yes i do. Personally i think its ignorant to not believe in Some god. But that imo JetB1ackNewYear

Thinking = ignorance.

Interesting....

[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]Yes,Yes i do. Personally i think its ignorant to not believe in Some god. But that imo TopTierHustler

Thinking = ignorance.

Interesting....

That creates an interesting syllogism.

Yes I do. This whole universe is too big and great for it to have gotten here on its own.helwa1988

Is God too big and great to have gotten here on his own? Who created God?

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

Nuck81

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

Nuck81

Besides the big bang has a lot of evidence supporting it, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think it's illogical. However it's not a theory to say what created the universe, it the reason why it is the way it is.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

toast_burner

Yes that life and the universe just appeared out of nowhere magically and eventually lead to complex life all on it's own is completely logical. Ya that makes so much more sense.

Think of it like game design, a video game has a designer, a creator. It clearly did not just pop into existence on it's own, someone took the time to program and design it. They built the engine, they built the mechanics, they built the world and everything else in that game.

Life is the same way, God desinged the universe and it's mechanics, and used them to create life and make human beings. Things like evolution are just one of the many design tools God designed and guided in this world to create life.

Gravity, atoms, DNA, the Big Bang and all the other things are just the many mechanics and foudnations God used to design the world with. It certainly makes more logical sense than your idea.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

Nuck81

Are you dumb?

Also I doubt the BB theory states that there was a collision before the expansion.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

ShadowMoses900

Yes that life and the universe just appeared out of nowhere magically and eventually lead to complex life all on it's own is completely logical. Ya that makes so much more sense.

Think of it like game design, a video game has a designer, a creator. It clearly did not just pop into existence on it's own, someone took the time to program and design it. They built the engine, they built the mechanics, they built the world and everything else in that game.

Life is the same way, God desinged the universe and it's mechanics, and used them to create life and make human beings. Things like evolution are just one of the many design tools God designed in this world to create life.

Gravity, atoms, DNA, and all the other things are just the many mechanics and foudnation God used to design the world with. It certainly makes more logical sense then your idea.

There is no evidence at all suggesting there is a god, none. if you have some, show it.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Yes that something appeared out of nowhere and used his magic powers to create everything out of nothing is completely logical.

HoolaHoopMan

Yes I do believe in God. My spiritual beliefs are very important to me, and to be honest I find athesim to be the most illogical view. I am reminded by this picture I saw once, it had two twins in a womb and they were having a conversation that went something like this:

Baby 1: "Hey brother, do you believe in life after birth?"

Baby 2: "No I don't, there is no evidence for it. I have to see it to believe it"

Baby 1: "Do you believe in Mom?"

Baby 2: "No, of course not, that's just silly. I'm an atheist. There is no such thing as Mom"

Lol it's pretty funny and clever and makes a good point. I think I found it: Unborn Atheists: Do You Believe in Mom?

ShadowMoses900

Were a child at a level of cognition capable of asking such questions, the first conclusion is reasonable. If all you know is what's around you, then it's perfectly reasonable to believe that's all there is. The second scenario is a bit of a false analogy. It is impossible not to believe in mom in a sense as mom is the world around them, it would be like us denying there is a world around us (which some Christian philophers have done). However, to say that this world around them is a sentient being is a conclusion based on zero evidence. That's not rational, to believe something despite all the evidence contradicting it. It doesn't matter if the unfounded conclusion ends up being true, logic means a conclusion that derives its validity from the truth of its premises. If the premises are true and they logically lead to an untrue conclusion then it is still a rational conclusion, the problem is with the truth value of the premises.

Yes that life and the universe just appeared out of nowhere magically and eventually lead to complex life all on it's own is completely logical. Ya that makes so much more sense.

ShadowMoses900

Honestly, why can't anyone just read up on a certain theory before opening their big dumb mouths. The big bang theory doesn't say it just appeared out of no where and that it magically came to be. In fact the BBT doesn't address where everything came from AT ALL, get this through your big stupid thick skull. Quit misrepresenting a theory you know nothing about.

There is no 'magic' happening here at all. Everything in the universe is governed by laws, they follow a strict set of rules that will lead to eventual outcomes. The tricky part is understanding theses rules and using them to predict the outcomes.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Like a Big Bang where random particles and molecules appeared from nothing to collide together haphazardly and miraculously form the Universe, Planets, and Life? That's perfectly logical.Nuck81

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Yes that something appeared out of nowhere and used his magic powers to create everything out of nothing is completely logical.

toast_burner

Besides the big bang has a lot of evidence supporting it, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think it's illogical. However it's not a theory to say what created the universe, it the reason why it is the way it is.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] The big bang theory doesn't attempt to explain where the matter came from. Try to understand the basic principles of a theory before you try and dismiss it you fvcking shlt head.HoolaHoopMan

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Like a Big Bang where random particles and molecules appeared from nothing to collide together haphazardly and miraculously form the Universe, Planets, and Life? That's perfectly logical.Nuck81

Besides the big bang has a lot of evidence supporting it, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think it's illogical. However it's not a theory to say what created the universe, it the reason why it is the way it is.

You my friend, is the one who's missing the point.

[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Whats that got to do with atheism?

Besides the big bang has a lot of evidence supporting it, you'd have to be pretty dumb to think it's illogical. However it's not a theory to say what created the universe, it the reason why it is the way it is.

toast_burner

You my friend, is the one who's missing the point.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] :lol: Rustled JimmiesNuck81

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes that life and the universe just appeared out of nowhere magically and eventually lead to complex life all on it's own is completely logical. Ya that makes so much more sense.

HoolaHoopMan

Honestly, why can't anyone just read up on a certain theory before opening their big dumb mouths. The big bang theory doesn't say it just appeared out of no where and that it magically came to be. In fact the BBT doesn't address where everything came from AT ALL, get this through your big stupid thick skull. Quit misrepresenting a theory you know nothing about.

There is no 'magic' happening here at all. Everything in the universe is governed by laws, they follow a strict set of rules that will lead to eventual outcomes. The tricky part is understanding theses rules and using them to predict the outcomes.

Resorting to personal attacks just makes you look juvenile. In a debate that is a sign of someone who doesn't know what they are arguing about or against, and they resort to personal attacks to try and escape the argument. In other words you lose. Come back when you grow up some.

And I understand the big bang theory just fine and believe in it. I just believe God caused it to happen.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Yes that life and the universe just appeared out of nowhere magically and eventually lead to complex life all on it's own is completely logical. Ya that makes so much more sense.

ShadowMoses900

Honestly, why can't anyone just read up on a certain theory before opening their big dumb mouths. The big bang theory doesn't say it just appeared out of no where and that it magically came to be. In fact the BBT doesn't address where everything came from AT ALL, get this through your big stupid thick skull. Quit misrepresenting a theory you know nothing about.

There is no 'magic' happening here at all. Everything in the universe is governed by laws, they follow a strict set of rules that will lead to eventual outcomes. The tricky part is understanding theses rules and using them to predict the outcomes.

Resorting to personal attacks just makes you look juvenile. In a debate that is a sign of someone who doesn't know what they are arguing about or against, and they resort to personal attacks to try and escape the argument. In other words you lose. Come back when you grow up some.

And I understand the big bang theory just fine and believe in it. I just believe God caused it to happen.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"] The point Your headNuck81

You my friend, is the one who's missing the point.

Off topic posting is against the TOU.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"] The point Your headNuck81

You my friend, is the one who's missing the point.

Just read the convos you're butting in ffs.