Do you consider h0m0sexuality a sin?

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#101 gamer1049
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#102 makaveli_89
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That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

Impex

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

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#103 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="Impex"]

That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

makaveli_89

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

Exactly!

God does it as punishment. Remember that Southpark? Jimmy's parents said that they made fun of handicapped kids, so God sent them Jimmy as a punishment.

Well, God sends homophobic parents homosexual sons! Why do you think so many parents disown their gay kids?

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#104 cowboymonkey21
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No, I don't beileve in God or the bible but I still don't think there is anything wrong with it.

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#105 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="makaveli_89"][QUOTE="Impex"]

That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

mrbojangles25

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

Exactly!

God does it as punishment. Remember that Southpark? Jimmy's parents said that they made fun of handicapped kids, so God sent them Jimmy as a punishment.

Well, God sends homophobic parents homosexual sons! Why do you think so many parents disown their gay kids?

Are you serious?
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#106 cowboymonkey21
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homosexuality is dumb. imo.Lil_Dwayne
You are dumb.Imo.
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#107 -Clarke
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i wouldn't be bothered to be pan-sexual
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#108 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="makaveli_89"][QUOTE="Impex"]

That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

cowboymonkey21

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

Exactly!

God does it as punishment. Remember that Southpark? Jimmy's parents said that they made fun of handicapped kids, so God sent them Jimmy as a punishment.

Well, God sends homophobic parents homosexual sons! Why do you think so many parents disown their gay kids?

Are you serious?

yes...look at my face. I am deadly serious

*bursts into laughter*

no, of course I am not serious. I come from the SF Bay Area, so homosexuality is like seeing the sun each day; I just accept it as normal. I stil lcant stand seeing two guys kiss, however, I dont know why.

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#109 makaveli_89
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[QUOTE="makaveli_89"][QUOTE="Impex"]

That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

mrbojangles25

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

Exactly!

God does it as punishment. Remember that Southpark? Jimmy's parents said that they made fun of handicapped kids, so God sent them Jimmy as a punishment.

Well, God sends homophobic parents homosexual sons! Why do you think so many parents disown their gay kids?

not quite what i was thinking..lol

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#110 Jambi86
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Some of the nicest people I know are gay and some of the worst "sinners" I know are strait.
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#111 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"][QUOTE="makaveli_89"][QUOTE="Impex"]

That's a tough one.

I was born and raised Catholic, so in that sense, I should believe it is a sin.

Yet, there is the fact that homosexual people have no choice. You are born gay Why would anyone actually choose to be gay So, in a way, didn't God create homosexuals?

mrbojangles25

but couldn't you say that God created people who have defencies dealing with their body? Or mental disorders or such. Im not really sure. Seems tough to answer.

Exactly!

God does it as punishment. Remember that Southpark? Jimmy's parents said that they made fun of handicapped kids, so God sent them Jimmy as a punishment.

Well, God sends homophobic parents homosexual sons! Why do you think so many parents disown their gay kids?

Are you serious?

yes...look at my face. I am deadly serious

*bursts into laughter*

no, of course I am not serious. I come from the SF Bay Area, so homosexuality is like seeing the sun each day; I just accept it as normal. I stil lcant stand seeing two guys kiss, however, I dont know why.

Oh, I thought you were joking but you never know on OT.
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#113 Cube_of_MooN
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[QUOTE="Cube_of_MooN"]Personal feelings about it aside, it is a sin.SSCyborg

If you're not basing that on personal feelings, what the hell are you?

I'm a human... :?

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#114 MagnumPI
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A better question is do I care? Someone else's sins is not my business. It doesn't mattter what I think. #1 I'm not gay and #2 anyone who doesn't agree with me doesn't care what I think nor what anyone else thinks anyway.

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#115 Ilived
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I can't see it as a sin since I'm not religious but I do think it's wrong.
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#116 buldog300
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I was visiting a friend's church on Sunday and they were talking about repenting your sins and they starting making a list of sins and said "Cheaters, liars, alcoholics, drug abusers, homosexuals..." and I was thinking, people become cheaters, liars, alcoholics, and drug abusers at their own risk and they can stop themselves from becoming that way, a person can't help if they're homosexual.xTw1st4x

A man has asmuch power to stop himself from sleeping with another man as he does to stop himself from sleeping with two women. Just because you have the urge to sin, doesn't mean you should.

Remember, we are never tempted with more than we can handle.

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#117 cowboymonkey21
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I think it's a sin. It's a horrible thing, and it is also disgusting. Men were made to have sex with women, not other men. I seriously wish homosexuals would leave our country and start their own gay nation that would die in 100 years because they can't reproduce.1stCommando
Wow. You serious?
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#118 Lyphe2k
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It's a threat to humanity in the long run.
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#119 linkthewindow
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It's a threat to humanity in the long run.Lyphe2k
Are you seroius? At the moment, I could liberally only guess maybe 10% of our population being gay Taking off some to account for ones that are too scared to come out, we could end up as low as 1 or 2%, and there saying that we breed too much ATM.
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#120 Red-XIII
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[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]Since I'm no longer a religious person, I cannot say if a something is considered sin. All I will say is that homosexuality goes against nature, but that doesn't make that person any less of a person.JustPlainLucas

How does homosexuality go against nature when nature itself creates homosexuality?

You know.. this really isn't that hard of an idea to grasp. The male gender is mean to mate with the female gender. It's as simple as a round peg into a round hole. Am I saying there's something wrong with trying to stick a triangular peg into a round hole? No. Knock yourself out, but that's not what it was designed for.

Well... by the number of gay men, and even gay animals, that get it on... clearly it does fit >_>
Oh, and by the way, some women prefer that hole to the one it was 'made for'.

Sex is more than just reproduction. It can be an expression of intimacy, social interaction and above all, pleasure. I think it's ridiculous to call homosexuals 'unnatural', because the billions of straight couples using contraceptives is equally unnatural (sex for pleasure is the same no matter what gender you're with).

Hypocrisy all round from the homophobes.

Someone here on GS had this brilliant quote, "Riddle me this, Batman. Why is the prostate an erogenous zone if it can only be reached through penetration?"

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#121 dracula_16
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I'm not a follower of any religion, and I'm not homophobic at all. Someone of the nicest people I've met are gay
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#122 ag1052
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When I was in college I wrote a paper on A Christian's View of Homosexual Marriage

I put it in my blog in my myspace page just so whomever wanted to read it could.

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#123 cool_baller
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It could also be a form of built in population control.
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#124 Red-XIII
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When I was in college I wrote a paper on A Christian's View of Homosexual Marriage

I put it in my blog in my myspace page just so whomever wanted to read it could.

ag1052

You call that a college level essay? I had to write harder things than that in Highschool.
1. Marriage is not exclusive to Christianity
2. Marriage can be a secular, legal contract and is not (always) sacred
3. Heterosexuals defending the sanctity of marriage have already made it a joke themsevles with 50% divorce rates
4. There is a separation of Church and State meaning that religion should play no part in deciding these laws
5. Your religious belief has no grounding in other people's lives (other people pushing their laws on you? See point 3)
6. Whatever the Bible says holds no grounding in other people's lives
7. Your Christian 'view' on homosexual marriage is just that, a view that it's wrong. This has already been established since the Bible was written

If two consenting adults want to get married and it doesn't harm anyone else, then why is it wrong? Really, the only argument anyone can make is that Religion says it's wrong, which has nothing to do with secular laws. Remove religion entirely and there is no reason to ban it short of prejudice. The whole world is backwards.

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#125 II_Seraphim_II
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I dont think its a sin, and if it is, then half the priests are going to hell
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#126 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="ag1052"]

When I was in college I wrote a paper on A Christian's View of Homosexual Marriage

I put it in my blog in my myspace page just so whomever wanted to read it could.

Red-XIII

You call that a college level essay? I had to write harder things than that in Highschool.
1. Marriage is not exclusive to Christianity
2. Marriage can be a secular, legal contract and is not (always) sacred
3. Heterosexuals defending the sanctity of marriage have already made it a joke themsevles with 50% divorce rates
4. There is a separation of Church and State meaning that religion should play no part in deciding these laws
5. Your religious belief has no grounding in other people's lives (other people pushing their laws on you? See point 3)
6. Whatever the Bible says holds no grounding in other people's lives
7. Your Christian 'view' on homosexual marriage is just that, a view that it's wrong. This has already been established since the Bible was written

If two consenting adults want to get married and it doesn't harm anyone else, then why is it wrong? Really, the only argument anyone can make is that Religion says it's wrong, which has nothing to do with secular laws. Remove religion entirely and there is no reason to ban it short of prejudice. The whole world is backwards.

just wanted to add:

like Chris Rock so elequently put it "How can marriage be sacred when we have shows like the Bachelor out there?"

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#127 Termite551
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Gay couples can't have children, which makes them arguably better in my eyes than regular couples. Unless ofcourse that news about making female bone marrow into sperm is true, in which case lesbians will also have children, which I don't see as a good thing. Ah whatever
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No.
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Gay couples can't have children, which makes them arguably better in my eyes than regular couples. Unless ofcourse that news about making female bone marrow into sperm is true, in which case lesbians will also have children, which I don't see as a good thing. Ah whateverTermite551

why is it good that they cant have children? I know a gay couple that has daughter and their daughter is the sweetest person you will ever meet. Now im not saying that all children of gay couples will be sweet, im just saying that gay couples are equally capable of raising children as hetrosexual couples. And on a side note, i dont understand how people can seriously be so anti-gay. History really does really repeat itself. First it was ok to hate black people for being black, now its frowned upon, same will happen with gay people. Im black, and for the love of me i cant stand black people who hate gay people for being gay How can sumone who clearly disagrees with the way africans were racially prejudiced agree with prejudicing another group of people? it makes no sense to me. Personally, i think that religion is the major culprit in this. Was it not for religious leaders saying that homosexuality is a sin, i seriously think there would be far more tolerance.

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#130 freshgman
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yeah it a sin
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#132 soren008
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War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess which one the Southern Baptist Convention is protesting?

no it is not.

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I don't know.
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#134 smiggy4000
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Is it one of the seven... No it isnt so there....
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#135 Lazy_Boy88
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There's no such things as a sin. But I do think as a society we should not promote it.
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#136 Siofen
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In the context of a few religions, it is a sin. But to me with the primary definition of sin I don't believe in it at all.
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#137 Myrkan
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If it is a sin in the eyes of the catholics, then god exists. If god exists to them because of it, he wouldnt make it possible to be gay.

I believe in god but I dont like the christian view of everything.

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#138 nightshade85
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Being what you are isn't a sin...dreDREb13

what if you're evil

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#139 lucas_kelly
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If "god" didn't want people to be gay them maybe he shouldn't make them gay
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#140 horgen  Moderator
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No :| I find it ridicolous to do so.
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#141 Jenova_Flare
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Sin was cool in FFX lawl.
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#142 MagnumPI
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**** religion. Not only have high ranking officials admitted to having gay sex, they did so while molesting boys.

Besides... whatever happened to confession? "Father I have sinned. I crushed a hooker's skull with wine bottle." Did you put money in the collection plate? "Yes." Then you are forgiven my child. NEXT!

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#143 Zaeryn
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Of course not.
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#144 SolidSnake35
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If "god" didn't want people to be gay them maybe he shouldn't make them gaylucas_kelly
Haha, so true. :P
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#145 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="lucas_kelly"]If "god" didn't want people to be gay them maybe he shouldn't make them gaySolidSnake35
Haha, so true. :P

He didn't make them gay they malfunctioned, but no one sent them back to the factory before the warranty expired.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="lucas_kelly"]If "god" didn't want people to be gay them maybe he shouldn't make them gayMagnumPI

Haha, so true. :P

He didn't make them gay they malfunctioned, but no one sent them back to the factory before the warranty expired.

Continuing with your analogy, either God knew they would malfunction or wouldn't make something that wouldn't be as he intended.
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#147 rinkegekido2110
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"Sin" is merely a concept dreamed up by the high preists as a means to control people. I, for one, place no stock in it.
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#148 MagnumPI
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="lucas_kelly"]If "god" didn't want people to be gay them maybe he shouldn't make them gaySolidSnake35

Haha, so true. :P

He didn't make them gay they malfunctioned, but no one sent them back to the factory before the warranty expired.

Continuing with your analogy, either God knew they would malfunction or wouldn't make something that wouldn't be as he intended.

No, he's a cheap skate that unloaded his defectives onto some unfortunate suckers who didn't realize they were buying the irregulars with voided warrantys.

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#149 matthayter700
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I'm not sure, but either way, I still think it's weird and just...shouldn't be done, I mean, it's not natural damnit!ElArab
A questionable assumption, at most, but even if it's true, how is "natural" any better than "not natural"? Nature isn't a good source of ethics, ever heard of sharks eating their own young? Nature is all about survival of the fittest, the strong attacking the weak, etc... so "not natural" would if anything be a point in homosexuality's favour. I'm not gay myself, but I'm just sick of this whole retarded idea that what's "natural" is somehow better...
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#150 ag1052
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[QUOTE="ag1052"]

When I was in college I wrote a paper on A Christian's View of Homosexual Marriage

I put it in my blog in my myspace page just so whomever wanted to read it could.

Red-XIII

You call that a college level essay? I had to write harder things than that in Highschool.
1. Marriage is not exclusive to Christianity
2. Marriage can be a secular, legal contract and is not (always) sacred
3. Heterosexuals defending the sanctity of marriage have already made it a joke themsevles with 50% divorce rates
4. There is a separation of Church and State meaning that religion should play no part in deciding these laws
5. Your religious belief has no grounding in other people's lives (other people pushing their laws on you? See point 3)
6. Whatever the Bible says holds no grounding in other people's lives
7. Your Christian 'view' on homosexual marriage is just that, a view that it's wrong. This has already been established since the Bible was written

If two consenting adults want to get married and it doesn't harm anyone else, then why is it wrong? Really, the only argument anyone can make is that Religion says it's wrong, which has nothing to do with secular laws. Remove religion entirely and there is no reason to ban it short of prejudice. The whole world is backwards.

I wrote better papers in highschool too... I was a philosophy major.. I wrote papers every single day, this was not a huge project I did but it was a paper that I wrote in a couple hours.

I dont believe you read the entire essay either yes I am aware of seperation of church and state but I explained that first the bible has clearly shown what a christian's stance should be...then with my explination of how our government work on issues (such as smoking) what is the popular opinion can decide what is legal. There is no reason for smoking to be legal, it does nothing but hurts people, it has no benifit, and second hand smoking hurts others especially those with asthma and other breathing problems. Yet smoking is legal even though it hurts the right of a few just because overall we as a country choose for it to be legal.

My points were this...

1. My beliefs are against homosexual marriage

2. I have the right to those beliefs and I have the right to use those beliefs when I vote

3. As like the smoking issuse that I explained in my paper, the way the country works is majority rules

Im not saying that a judge needs to say gay marriage is illegal and thats that"... I was saying I have a legit objection to it and I have the right to vote on that objection. If every issue was based on not taking rights away from the minority then thats fine... but that also means that smoking should be illegal becasue the few of us with breathing problems suffer from it.

I know smoking and gay marriage have nothing to do together but it is a good example of how the government works and what is aloud and what isnt just because we have decided it as a country.