Do you doubt that your God exists?

yet another religion thread ... sorry .. :P hear me out though

This is a question directed to anyone Religious

Do you doubt your God exists? or have you ever doubted the existence of God?

Kierkegaard wrote something interesting about the "leap of faith"

The "leap of faith" is his conception of how an individual would believe in God, or how a person would act in love.

It is not a rational decision, as it is transcending rationality in favour of something more uncanny, that is, faith. As such he thought that to have faith is at the same time to have doubt.

So, for example, for one to truly have faith in God, one would also have to doubt that God exists; the doubt is the rational part of a person's thought, without which the faith would have no real substance. Doubt is an essential element of faith, an underpinning.

In plain words, to believe or have faith that God exists, without ever having doubted God's existence or goodness, would not be a faith worth having.

your thoughts?

It's pretty normal for a religious person to have doubts about the existence of god, its what makes us human. And yes I did have doubts on wheather or not God really exist.Proobie44

i'm interested,what makes an atheist human?

It's pretty normal for a religious person to have doubts about the existence of god, its what makes us human. And yes I did have doubts on wheather or not God really exist.Proobie44

What was your conclusion?

Nope. I look up to the sky every morning to see my God, my creator, my life-giver shining down on me from 149.600,000 kilometers away.foxhound_fox

The Sun? Do you believe in the Egyptian God Ra by any chance?

I know for a fact that my God exists.

Mighty Zeus always lends me his trusty lightning bolt powers to use against foes in Mario Kart.
EmilioDigsIt

Yeah and Thor comes in pretty handy on Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

Even Mother Teresa had doubts. So the church gave her an exorcism, but they try to keep that fact on the down low because she brings in so much money for the church.

I guess it didn't work so good tho because days after the exorcism she wrote:

"I am told God lives in me -- and yet the reality of darkness and coldness and emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul,"

"Where I try to raise my thoughts to heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul. Love -- the word -- it brings nothing,"

"In my soul, I can't tell you how dark it is, how painful, how terrible -- I feel like refusing God."

I like to hope that some kind of higher being exists so that we can all ascend while our bodies rot. I don't follow any single religion.

Besides the fact that I would like some kind of life after death, I try not to think too much at all regarding the subject of God.

The Sun? Do you believe in the Egyptian God Ra by any chance?Lansdowne5

I like to hope that some kind of higher being exists so that we can all ascend while our bodies rot. I don't follow any single religion.

Besides the fact that I would like some kind of life after death, I try not to think too much at all regarding the subject of God.

a55assin

Well you better make your mind up pretty quick because the only way to go to 'heaven' or some better place when you die (assuming any specific religion is correct) is to truly believe in it without having doubt, if you don't believe it you won't be allowed in.

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]The Sun? Do you believe in the Egyptian God Ra by any chance?foxhound_fox

But in your last message you said it was your creator?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]The Sun? Do you believe in the Egyptian God Ra by any chance?Lansdowne5

But in your last message you said it was our creator?

Nope not anymore, I used to though.

But in your last message you said it was our creator?Lansdowne5

It's pretty normal for a religious person to have doubts about the existence of god, its what makes us human. And yes I did have doubts on wheather or not God really exist.Proobie44

Doubting that your own God exists basically contradicts the point of worshiping a god in the first place.

[QUOTE="a55assin"]

I like to hope that some kind of higher being exists so that we can all ascend while our bodies rot. I don't follow any single religion.

Besides the fact that I would like some kind of life after death, I try not to think too much at all regarding the subject of God.

Lansdowne5

Well you better make your mind up pretty quick because the only way to go to 'heaven' or some better place when you die (assuming any specific religion is correct) is to truly believe in it without having doubt, if you don't believe it you won't be allowed in.

Actually, the Christian Bible states that God allows one to enter heaven whether one believes or not. As long as one lives a life not trying to hurt others, but helping them, one will receive a one-way ticket to paradise.

On the other hand, if you get really rich during life, you'll be able to buy your own.

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]But in your last message you said it was our creator?foxhound_fox

We're getting into creation now but just to summarise, it would have been a major factor of survival after creation but not the actual 'process' of creation. I really really don't want to make this into an argument but I am curious, how do you believe the Sun came to be?

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]The Sun? Do you believe in the Egyptian God Ra by any chance?cpo335

But in your last message you said it was our creator?

So you are saying that the Sun created us? And because of that it is our God? Even though you are not your kid's god and you created him?

The thesis is incorrect. You don't doubt your God. You come to believe in your God after doubting. Subtle but important difference..LJS9502_basic

Exactly.

We're getting into creation now but just to summarise, it would have been a major factor of survival after creation but not the actual 'process' of creation. I really really don't want to make this into an argument but I am curious, how do you believe the Sun came to be?Lansdowne5

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"][QUOTE="a55assin"]

I like to hope that some kind of higher being exists so that we can all ascend while our bodies rot. I don't follow any single religion.

Besides the fact that I would like some kind of life after death, I try not to think too much at all regarding the subject of God.

a55assin

Well you better make your mind up pretty quick because the only way to go to 'heaven' or some better place when you die (assuming any specific religion is correct) is to truly believe in it without having doubt, if you don't believe it you won't be allowed in.

Actually, the Christian Bible states that God allows one to enter heaven whether one believes or not. As long as one lives a life not trying to hurt others, but helping them, one will receive a one-way ticket to paradise.

On the other hand, if you get really rich during life, you'll be able to buy your own.

Where the heck did you just get that information from? Because it certainly was not from the Christian bible. It states in the real bible that, 'those who truly believe that Jesus Christ, the son of God, died for mankind to remove all sin from the world, will have eternal life in heaven' 'but those who disbelieve and do not repent for their sins will be thrown into the lake of fire'.

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]We're getting into creation now but just to summarise, it would have been a major factor of survival after creation but not the actual 'process' of creation. I really really don't want to make this into an argument but I am curious, how do you believe the Sun came to be?foxhound_fox

OK, thanks.

No, I don't and thanks for the apology, otherwise I would have told you to stop making these type of common threads!!!!!!!! pspdseagle

going into threads is optional you know ...

If you want to avoid religion threads avoid the word "GOD" ... hope I've helped ..

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The thesis is incorrect. You don't doubt your God. You come to believe in your God after doubting. Subtle but important difference..Lansdowne5

Exactly.

I know this ... but I believe this is a good way to seperate the blind followers from the believers. no?

[QUOTE="pspdseagle"]No, I don't and thanks for the apology, otherwise I would have told you to stop making these type of common threads!!!!!!!! soren008

going into threads is optional you know ...

If you want to avoid religion threads avoid the word "GOD" ... hope I've helped ..

And the word 'religion' usually helps too. Oh and 'creation' and 'evolution'.

I don't really care. There might be a God; there might not. Either way, we have no idea what he's like or what his intentions are.SolidSnake35

Don't say 'we' say 'I' because then you are just speaking for yourself.

Dude, when you die and meet the The Man, you will believe. At that point, you're a believer.

Don't believe me? God forgives. Right? Right? Right

If he still doesn't want to let you in, buy an island if your rich or get into this looong arguement about the existence of heaven. Keep saying you don't believe in it...he'll show it to you...and then you just don't go back. Right? Right? Right

Dude, when you die and meet the The Man, you will believe. At that point, you're a believer.

Don't believe me? God forgives. Right? Right? Right

If he still doesn't want to let you in, buy an island if your rich or get into this looong arguement about the existence of heaven. Keep saying you don't believe in it...he'll show it to you...and then you just don't go back. Right? Right? Right

a55assin

What? That makes no sense. What point are you trying to make?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I don't really care. There might be a God; there might not. Either way, we have no idea what he's like or what his intentions are.Lansdowne5

Don't say 'we' say 'I' because then you are just speaking for yourself.

No point.

If God forgives all, wouldn't he forgive the lack of faith if you still lived a life wherein you helped people?

If we are to take the Bible seriously, only Christians without any doubts in religion would get access to heaven. Since that probably isn't the case...The bible is a...*some profane words*.

[QUOTE="a55assin"]

Dude, when you die and meet the The Man, you will believe. At that point, you're a believer.

Don't believe me? God forgives. Right? Right? Right

If he still doesn't want to let you in, buy an island if your rich or get into this looong arguement about the existence of heaven. Keep saying you don't believe in it...he'll show it to you...and then you just don't go back. Right? Right? Right

Lansdowne5

What? That makes no sense. What point are you trying to make?

I think he was trying to be funny.

[QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I don't really care. There might be a God; there might not. Either way, we have no idea what he's like or what his intentions are.SolidSnake35

Don't say 'we' say 'I' because then you are just speaking for yourself.

There is a crack in everything that's how the light gets in.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I don't really care. There might be a God; there might not. Either way, we have no idea what he's like or what his intentions are.soren008

Don't say 'we' say 'I' because then you are just speaking for yourself.

There is a crack in everything that's how the light gets in.

What god?Cooldude224

[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]What god?SolidSnake35

That's a funny God. I'd like that kind of God. You could have coffee in the garden with that kind...

[QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Lansdowne5"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I don't really care. There might be a God; there might not. Either way, we have no idea what he's like or what his intentions are.LJS9502_basic

Don't say 'we' say 'I' because then you are just speaking for yourself.

There is a crack in everything that's how the light gets in.

Pope?

I try to spread out my "religious beliefs" by participating in as many events as possible, I figure I have more covered that way.

Edit: I should have said events from different religions, I do not identify with a particular group, though some of the egyptian rituals are my favorites thus far.

No point.

If God forgives all, wouldn't he forgive the lack of faith if you still lived a life wherein you helped people?

If we are to take the Bible seriously, only Christians without any doubts in religion would get access to heaven. Since that probably isn't the case...The bible is a...*some profane words*.

a55assin

Don't speculate on what you clearly don't understand.