Do you really trust science?

On the whole i do because i aggre with the methods that scientists use to find evidence and present it. However i noticed that there was a poll up yesterday that was asking "Do you think globel warming is natural/man made" and even though the scientific concensus is fairly one sieded in the man made idea, most people were saying they dont believe this.

So decided to ask the bigger quesion, because we use science everyday but if people are unwilling to trust the same scientific community on bigger matters like globel warming do they trust science at all?

Please give a reason for your responce.

The only people who don't trust science are those that don't want to trust it because their own beliefs are against the proofas found by science. Science is making hypothesis, finding truths, forming a theory then testing evidence against that theory.

I can't see gravity, so how do I know it really exists? I don't trust science at all.

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

starfox15

Of course I do.

Science isn't biased, it's only goal is discovery. The advancement of knowledge and technology.

We can thank science for most of the things that we have in this modern world. Cars, computers, tv's, iPod's, cellphones, airplanes, microwaves, medicine/medical techniques, dishwashers, flowing water, heat, electricity, refrigerators, satellites etc. Even the science behind construction. Sky scrapers, stadiums, bridges, etc. Materials - pressure treated wood, cement, plastic, carbon-fibre, nano-tubes, different alloys, etc.

Life would be brutal without scientific advancements. It makes our lives easier and tells us a lot about the world that we live in.

I can't see gravity, so how do I know it really exists? I don't trust science at all.

DigitalExile

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

lol_haha_dead

lol wut? Yes they can.. If you did a little reading, you'd realize how much scientists know about the creation of this solar system and its Earth. In fact, there are books that literally flesh out thousands of details about it's creation. I'm serious, try the library.

You know how many scientists believe in the big bang theory, right (the majority of them)? Why is it BS, because you say so? Pretty much all the information that scientists gather about the universe seems to confirm the theory.

By the way, the Earth wasn't formed until billions of years after the big bang occured.

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

aots_twilight

No, i don't completely trust science because it is filled with half-truths. Scientific theories are reinterpreted all the time, each time they discover something old theories are replaced with new ones, take quantum theory for example, it's a new version of the same thing what Newton proposed......but is it the whole truth? Nope- because a few years from now more new stuff will be added to it. Still, good to know humans are progressing in terms of gaining knowledge.

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

Do I "trust" science? I trust that with the exception of the occasional human failing, those who promote science try to follow the dictates of the scientific method. This method is not without problems, of course. A scientific answer is one that rests upon the best observable evidence at the moment, which is almost never the same evidence available in the following moment and that is a problem. Not to mention all the failings of what we consider objective observation. There may well be no end to evidence and so science may never be able to give us even a single conclusive answer. Someone posted all the technology science has given us. They haven't, engineers who have implemented scientific discoveries have, but that is minor quibble. What is not so minor is the impact of that technology. To not see the irony in the fact that not believing in global warming inspired this thread, when that global warming is largely caused by the advancement of our societies into a "modern" age of science, is pretty funny. Without science life would be brutal, will see if with science life will exist at all 500 years from now. I'd say the odds are 50-50 at best.

The scientific approach to discerning the meaning of a play vs. the religious approach:

The scientific mind will observe the costumes and its effect on the meaning of the plot, the style of rope used to pull the curtain up, does it have a meaning in this production? The facial expressions of the actors, is the lead masking constipation, is that relevant? Colors, chorus and props, who manufactured the props, what citywas the factory in, when was the company founded. etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,etc,

The religious mind will quickly deduce from the title and tone what it believes the play is trying to say. It may leave before act one concludes, it may implement what it thinks was the enriching message of the play in its day to day life.

The religious mind may be full of crap, the religious mind actually makes more sense to most people as the path of least resistance. The scientific mind may eventually arrive at a richer meaning of the play, the scientific mind shall probably cease to exist of old age before it exits the theater with an answer. If the scientific mind whispers to the audience member in the next seat (the engineer), the audience member may leave the theater and write a critical opinion about how the lead's masking of constipation made everything clear. This audience member, like the religious mind, may be full of crap.

Indeed, as long as people are curious. Science will always be a continuous and endless investigation.

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

lol_haha_dead

But some guy creating it in 7 days isnt? :lol: That was too easy!

[QUOTE="aots_twilight"]

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

lonewolf604

I want proof before spending 2 hours of my Sundays in a church filled with old people!

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

krp008

But some guy creating it in 7 days isnt? :lol: That was too easy!

Yeah, atleast that guy didn't invent nukes :D....scientists are very good destruction engineers.

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

But some guy creating it in 7 days isnt? :lol: That was too easy!

Religion gives people hope and "answers" to an omnipotent deity. It's not a bad thing really.

Actaully God created the earth in 6 days, on the 7th day he rest. Remember?lol_haha_dead

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"]Actaully God created the earth in 6 days, on the 7th day he rest. Remember?Teenaged

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"]Actaully God created the earth in 6 days, on the 7th day he rest. Remember?lol_haha_dead

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]I feel like those on your sig....

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

Strong attitude brah...lol_haha_dead

You've got to believe what it says. Or it WILL kill you.

It will.

Brutha.

I do trust science, but as someone else said aswell, there is 1 weak link in science, namely human beings... it is easy to reach the wrong conclution, or dismiss certain things, based on what kind of person you are.

Science is a a lot more "real" to me then religion is, altho they do not really overlap that much in my world...

But lets be honest in the last 300 years, science has been proven right so many times Ive lost all count, science has given us alot more answers then religion did in 2000 years (sadly when I say "religion" it includes such things as churches and other instututions which has never proven to be more then tyrany).

Acience haseased our way of living, given us alot of wonders,has helped mankind to be catapulted to a whole other place in exsistance.

Buthuman beings make mis calculations, and errors, so I trust science but keep weary about what I am told.

Still beats killing off all people with red hair because the red hair is a sign of the devil (happened alot in medival europe), and claimingattractive women to be witches, because they gave priests "dirty" thoughts... (those are more extreme parts ofreligion, religion usually has benefits aswell)

But the fact that I am sitting here, wrighting this is enough of a testament to how much I trust science ^^

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"]Actaully God created the earth in 6 days, on the 7th day he rest. Remember?lol_haha_dead

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

[QUOTE="krp008"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.lol_haha_dead

But some guy creating it in 7 days isnt? :lol: That was too easy!

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]I feel like those on your sig....

Like a lightining just struck me... >_>

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] Why u shocked? Don't beleive in God brah?lol_haha_dead

It's 149 years old.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] Why u shocked? Don't beleive in God brah?lol_haha_dead

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Theres a difference between believing in god and listening to a facepalm-worthy statement.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] Facepalm worthy? I bet u believe that Earth id 4.9 billion years old too. Well I got new 4 u brah, its only 5-6 thousand years old.lol_haha_dead

Look I am not continuing cause I cant see any kind of conversation hapening. At least not one that wont make me pull on my hair.

Facepalm worthy? I bet u believe that Earth id 4.9 billion years old too. Well I got new 4 u brah, its only 5-6 thousand years old.lol_haha_dead

On the whole i do because i aggre with the methods that scientists use to find evidence and present it. However i noticed that there was a poll up yesterday that was asking "Do you think globel warming is natural/man made" and even though the scientific concensus is fairly one sieded in the man made idea, most people were saying they dont believe this.

So decided to ask the bigger quesion, because we use science everyday but if people are unwilling to trust the same scientific community on bigger matters like globel warming do they trust science at all?

Please give a reason for your responce.

Wolls

Actually... This thread turned into a Religion-Science debate but the TC never mentioned a thing about Religion. It was merely a question to believe what Science is. It's gotten out of topic.

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]The combination of the attitude, the "brah" and baseless claims is what makes this post facepalm-worthy. ;)

jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] Baseless claims? You crack me up brah lol. The Holy Bible explains everything, you should go and read it. If your not closed minded...lol_haha_dead

[QUOTE="Wolls"]

On the whole i do because i aggre with the methods that scientists use to find evidence and present it. However i noticed that there was a poll up yesterday that was asking "Do you think globel warming is natural/man made" and even though the scientific concensus is fairly one sieded in the man made idea, most people were saying they dont believe this.

So decided to ask the bigger quesion, because we use science everyday but if people are unwilling to trust the same scientific community on bigger matters like globel warming do they trust science at all?

Please give a reason for your responce.

aots_twilight

Actually... This thread turned into a Religion-Science debate but the TC never mentioned a thing about Religion. It was merely a question to believe what Science is. It's gotten out of topic.

[QUOTE="aots_twilight"]

[QUOTE="Wolls"]

On the whole i do because i aggre with the methods that scientists use to find evidence and present it. However i noticed that there was a poll up yesterday that was asking "Do you think globel warming is natural/man made" and even though the scientific concensus is fairly one sieded in the man made idea, most people were saying they dont believe this.

So decided to ask the bigger quesion, because we use science everyday but if people are unwilling to trust the same scientific community on bigger matters like globel warming do they trust science at all?

Please give a reason for your responce.

mlisen

Actually... This thread turned into a Religion-Science debate but the TC never mentioned a thing about Religion. It was merely a question to believe what Science is. It's gotten out of topic.

Seriously... I got owned... :D

[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] I tell you what... I'll read the bible when you've read the scriptures of all the other world religions. Deal?jimmyjammer69

No i don't 'blindly' trust sience nor should it be trusted without question.

Sience is made to confirm theories and hypothisis. If the proof is correct, then the theory/hypothisis can be accepted based on the method used to obtain the proof.

If a proof is shown, but used dodgy methods to obtain it, then Sience should be questioned.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] No Deal!

Stop using "Brah"! It's annoying-brah.

... Dammit! It got to me.