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#51 AAllxxjjnn
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Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

aots_twilight

You hit the nail on the head, brah. Science provides me with some back up to their answers.

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#52 monkeyd_93
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yes as long as it is reasoned and backed up
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#53 MattUD1
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I place my trust in science to understand what we can.
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#54 Murj
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I trust science enough to know that I won't die from religion-related trauma. Unless I get squashed by a giant bible.

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#55 aots_twilight
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I think we just witnessed a new L33t word: "brah"...

Anyways, Science I believe is an ongoing research. While there are things and theories which we might not know and prove right now since our capabilities limit us. There might be a time when we can solve them.

Oh and "brah"...

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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] You're not closed minded, are you Brah?jimmyjammer69

Well it seems he left brah. I wonder why? :roll:

Dunno Brah, guess they're just more receptive on the streets of Hawaii than in OT.

Maybe brah couldnt take the pressure...

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#57 lol_haha_dead
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Well it seems he left brah. I wonder why? :roll:

Dunno Brah, guess they're just more receptive on the streets of Hawaii than in OT.

Maybe brah couldnt take the pressure...

I'm still here brah...
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#58 Zerocrossings
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Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

aots_twilight

Which is boring imo.

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#59 Murj
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[QUOTE="aots_twilight"]

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

Zerocrossings

Which is boring imo.

True. To say "Because God can" is so much more exciting! Lmao jk :P

Science is interesting at least, though I prefer psychology and philosophy. Who needs science when you believe in an extreme form of metaphysical nihilism?

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#60 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] Dunno Brah, guess they're just more receptive on the streets of Hawaii than in OT.lol_haha_dead

Maybe brah couldnt take the pressure...

I'm still here brah...

Well brah you left our convo and you proved you are not so open minded yourself.

I guess that why you grew silent.. ;)

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#61 aots_twilight
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[QUOTE="aots_twilight"]

Science tries to give a logical reason to all things. They back up their findings with documentation and countless research.

Why not trust it?

Zerocrossings

Which is boring imo.

Actually, you are right. The excitement and romance always comes from trying to uncover it. And after finding the answer, it ends up usually as common knowledge (or a subject of debate).

Therefore... "boring".

But, at least it can be fact and true.

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#62 COBRA1138
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The HUMANS became so powerful due to science only. Of course I trust science.
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#63 kaangonultas
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to believe in anything but science is just pure ignorance.
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#64 aots_twilight
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to believe in anything but science is just pure ignorance.kaangonultas

And that is why an open mind is really what people should have. But sadly, it would seem that only a few try to do so.

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#65 Wolls
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See this is interesting because the reason i made this is because i wa sconfused about how many people dont trust the scientist when it comes to globel warming. I know this isnt entially accurate but judgeing from this and the topic on if globel warming is man made or natural, most of you trust science but not when it comes to bigger issues such as Co2 imitions causing globel warming.

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#66 aots_twilight
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See this is interesting because the reason i made this is because i wa sconfused about how many people dont trust the scientist when it comes to globel warming. I know this isnt entially accurate but judgeing from this and the topic on if globel warming is man made or natural, most of you trust science but not when it comes to bigger issues such as Co2 imitions causing globel warming.

Wolls

Try watching Al Gore's documentary: "An Inconvinient Truth". It might help.

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#67 jimmyjammer69
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See this is interesting because the reason i made this is because i wa sconfused about how many people dont trust the scientist when it comes to globel warming. I know this isnt entially accurate but judgeing from this and the topic on if globel warming is man made or natural, most of you trust science but not when it comes to bigger issues such as Co2 imitions causing globel warming.

Wolls
I think the problem is that there's no unified body of consent called Science. Putting your faith in the scientific method means more that you trust that way of reaching the truth, but not necessarily trusting all people claiming to be scientists. Every day we hear scientists on the radio and watch them on TV, and it's clear that wearing a white coat doesn't make you invulnerable to corruption or infallible. Globally, media are pretty selective about which side they represent more, and maybe some of us think that this is one issue that's unfairly represented.
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#68 aots_twilight
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]

See this is interesting because the reason i made this is because i wa sconfused about how many people dont trust the scientist when it comes to globel warming. I know this isnt entially accurate but judgeing from this and the topic on if globel warming is man made or natural, most of you trust science but not when it comes to bigger issues such as Co2 imitions causing globel warming.

jimmyjammer69

I think the problem is that there's no unified body of consent called Science. Putting your faith in the scientific method means more that you trust that way of reaching the truth, but not necessarily trusting all people claiming to be scientists. Every day we hear scientists on the radio and watch them on TV, and it's clear that wearing a white coat doesn't make you invulnerable to corruption or infallible. Globally, media are pretty selective about which side they represent more, and maybe some of us think that this is one issue that's unfairly represented.

Spot on. Some try to manipulate information so it benefits them without realizing or even caring for the possible outcomes. (The documentary actually mentioned something like that if I remember correctly)

And thus, the confusion starts.

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#69 Wolf-Man2006
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I don't trust science completely because scientists has made several mistakes in the past.

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#70 deactivated-5b5d7639964d6
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Yes. :|

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#71 Rob-Belmont
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Yes, if it wasn't for Science I would more than likely be dead right now. That doesn't mean I'm not skeptical towards some science though.

I guess what I'm trying to say is although I will always question scientific stuff, but if my life was at stake I would gladly put in the hands of science.

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#72 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

lol_haha_dead
lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.

Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.
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#73 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

DrSponge

lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.

Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

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#74 kemar7856
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I trust most of it

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#75 DigitalExile
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.Teenaged

Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

Then where did nothing come from?

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#76 DrSponge
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[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"] lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.Teenaged

Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

aND LIKE there wass a nucler bexplosion and pepole came flying out of it.
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.DigitalExile

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

Then where did nothing come from?

The Big Bang theory states that our universe started as a hot, dense state of matter that suddenly started expanding, and keeps expanding today.
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#78 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.DigitalExile

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

Then where did nothing come from?

Oh I dont know!

But a knowledgable of this issue user told me that, so I will believe him! :|

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#79 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.DrSponge

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

aND LIKE there wass a nucler bexplosion and pepole came flying out of it.

Nnnnnnooooo! Just two people!

Adam and Eve!

Duh!

>_>

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#80 darksword1123
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No science is evil
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#81 fiscope
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Yes, I trust SCIENCE. Really, how can you not? Logically speaking, there are no issues.

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#82 fiscope
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="DrSponge"] Really? Explain to us what you think the Big Bang theory is then.DigitalExile

Duh! The Big Bang Theory obviously states that everything came from nothing! :roll:

>_>

Then where did nothing come from?

I hate this point. People will easily believe that God came from nothing or has always existed, but they wont accept that for the universe. Perhaps the Universe has simply "always existed." Geeeeeeeeeeez :lol:
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#83 Immortalica
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I believe most of what is told, because it makes sense. But I only trust fully what I can see and what can be proven mathematically.
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#84 BumFluff122
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No, i don't completely trust science because it is filled with half-truths. Scientific theories are reinterpreted all the time, each time they discover something old theories are replaced with new ones, take quantum theory for example, it's a new version of the same thing what Newton proposed......but is it the whole truth? Nope- because a few years from now more new stuff will be added to it. Still, good to know humans are progressing in terms of gaining knowledge.

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Quantum Theory has absolutely nothing to do with what Newton proposed. Newton's proposal was for static large objects, their mass and how gravity affected them. Einsteins theory was concerning the mass of moving objects and how time was affected by gravity and that sort of thing. There was actually a few people, including Einstein, that had a hand in today's Quantum theory. Quantum Theory deals with forces and powers that occur at the atomic level. All the theories are still taught and have real world proofs and examples. Though Quantum theory isn't compatible with General Realtivity which is why the entire physics world is currently interested in a TOE or Theory of Everything.

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#85 -Chimera-
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Being a skeptic, I don't think I can trust anything 100%. However, since Science is constantly being scrutinized and refined, I feel as though it can be trusted to a high degree.

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#86 munu9
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If you can't trust science you can't trust anything. :? Modern science is logical in every way. If a theory is hard to prove, it is often thrown to the way side by most scientist. If a theory is hard to disprove but cannot be directly proved, it's often questioned. If a theory can be proven and cannot (or is hard to) disprove then it's accepted by science. Science is one of the most pure things there are in this world. The only thing that causes science to do harm or fail are humans :?
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#87 NoSpeakyEnglish
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[QUOTE="lol_haha_dead"][QUOTE="starfox15"]

What else is there to trust? Religion? Yeah, I think I'll go with science over that.

FlyingArmbar

lol wut? Science cant even explain how earth became into exiestance. And dont give me the big bang theory... its bs.

lol wut? Yes they can.. If you did a little reading, you'd realize how much scientists know about the creation of this solar system and its Earth. In fact, there are books that literally flesh out thousands of details about it's creation. I'm serious, try the library.

No they don't trust me. Astronomers have no idea how the planets came into being. Personally I don't think you should trust anything until you validate it yourself. I mean if you just take the word of a scientist it's not that different from trusting scripture right?
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No they don't trust me. Astronomers have no idea how the planets came into being. Personally I don't think you should trust anything until you validate it yourself. I mean if you just take the word of a scientist it's not that different from trusting scripture right?NoSpeakyEnglish

I don't have to directly validate every scientific theory myself because it's not just some guy saying stuff that sounds vaguely logical and 'sciency' aka pseudoscience. True science uses the scientific method, and its observations and theories are tested so thoroughly that bad ones are almost certainly weeded out. Where a religious practitioner would never try to seek out falacy in their teachings, scientists try to weed out the faults in current scientific knowledge. Sometimes current explainations can't completely account for our observations ex. particle and wave models of light before the particle-wave model was formed. And science sometimes leads to incorrect conclusion, however due to its high accuracy I can have believe that it is usually right, while accepting that in certain areas (some physics) we just have a few partial theories, and don't yet have and perhaps never will have, a perfect one. When I say science I mean pure sciences, by the way; not social sciences which require a higher level of skepticism.

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#89 comp_atkins
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science has kept me alive everytime i flew in an airplane, drove in a car, took some medication etc... i'll trust it.
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#90 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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no, science is the devil
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#91 ps3wizard45
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Makes sense to meh :| *clicks yes*

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#92 deactivated-5b5d7639964d6
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USA's new motto should be: "In science we trust"

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#93 chAzN93
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yeah...but not all of it...some of it is bull
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#94 VelociBlade
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I can't see gravity, so how do I know it really exists? I don't trust science at all.

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Mmmppppptthhhh.... *bursts into helpless laughter* I'm noot even going to comment on this thread. Science can be trusted, and don't give me that "If it's real how come it keeps being wrong" crap. The mechanisms of the universe themselves are perfect; it's just human thinking that's flawed, which is why we still have a couple holes in all our theories.

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Of course I trust science; it has very strong self-correction built into to its very nature due to the highly skeptical approach to novel discoveries.
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yeah...but not all of it...some of it is bullchAzN93
Give some examples?
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[QUOTE="Blubadox"]

No, i don't completely trust science because it is filled with half-truths. Scientific theories are reinterpreted all the time, each time they discover something old theories are replaced with new ones, take quantum theory for example, it's a new version of the same thing what Newton proposed......but is it the whole truth? Nope- because a few years from now more new stuff will be added to it. Still, good to know humans are progressing in terms of gaining knowledge.

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Quantum Theory has absolutely nothing to do with what Newton proposed. Newton's proposal was for static large objects, their mass and how gravity affected them. Einsteins theory was concerning the mass of moving objects and how time was affected by gravity and that sort of thing. There was actually a few people, including Einstein, that had a hand in today's Quantum theory. Quantum Theory deals with forces and powers that occur at the atomic level. All the theories are still taught and have real world proofs and examples. Though Quantum theory isn't compatible with General Realtivity which is why the entire physics world is currently interested in a TOE or Theory of Everything.

I was talking about Newtons Corpuscular theory.

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[QUOTE="chAzN93"]yeah...but not all of it...some of it is bullxaos
Give some examples?

the earth being round thing comes to mind
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="chAzN93"]yeah...but not all of it...some of it is bullJandurin
Give some examples?

the earth being round thing comes to mind

Because it's actually closer to an ellipsoid or an oblate spheroid? =D
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="xaos"] Give some examples?

the earth being round thing comes to mind

Because it's actually closer to an ellipsoid or an oblate spheroid? =D

Indubitably, my dear Watson.