Gamespot is constantly locking threads and moderating people for very minor things. Often I see a thread locked for no reason whatsoever. Frankly i'm also a bit tired about being moderated just for voiceing my opinion about the moderaters.
In comparison to some of the other places I post on, it's ridiculously strict. It's not that bad though, I'm sure there are stricter places, but I definitely hate the censorship and some of the restrictions on what you can and can't say.
I find that sometimes the need to uphold the ToU can be a bit counterproductive. Order is maintained, but nothing is really solved. So, yes, but this is a commercial site after all.
Not really. I agree you can be moderated for very, very minor stuff but once it happens once you shouldn't really end up getting moderated for it again, as you know not to do it from now on. All i'd say is that it would perhaps be better to give more warnings about the minor stuff, rather than moderations, but hey, maybe it's the best way to make sure people follow the rules.
Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree.
yes I got suspended and a warning for saying "hahahaha" when someone posting a videokemar7856
I'm pretty sure that's because you're meant to always make a post which contributes to a discussion in some way, as best you can. Just posting "hahaha" is a bit pointless.
Their rules are relative to who is moderating at the time and what side of the bed they woke up that morning. Rules are garbage around here.
I really dont think that's true at all. :? I mean if you feel you've been incorrectly moderated alls you need to do is take it to customer support and if somebody is indeed moderating against the rules and upsetting members of the community they'd have their mod powers taken from them pretty quickly, right? :?
I don't think there's anything wrong with Gamespot, but then again, I'm on here about once or twice a week. Now if you want a site that is really strict, try the sister site which I will not name. Many people are being banned and because of that, many people are leaving that site.
Their rules are relative to who is moderating at the time and what side of the bed they woke up that morning. Rules are garbage around here.
I really dont think that's true at all. :? I mean if you feel you've been incorrectly moderated alls you need to do is take it to customer support and if somebody is indeed moderating against the rules and upsetting members of the community they'd have their mod powers taken from them pretty quickly, right? :?
Who is it you think you are appealing to in the "ask a mod" forum.
Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree. Lakin0817
Think about what you're saying for a moment. As tight of a watch as the admins keep on us, don't you think they'd know if we were using alt accounts for duplicitous purposes? Take the foil hat off and think about things. Things are a lot more simple around here than you think they are... we enforce the Terms of Use, keep the boards clean, and moderate discussions. That's all. Agendas get tossed out the window, along with moderators who don't make the cut after the I-mod phase.
hey buddy, i came from the original Nsider...we coulden't even trade friend codes there...these mods are like hipies to Nsiders hitleresque dictatorship :|
It could be worse, but yes it is pretty strict most of the time. The mods do go overboard in many cases, and that has driven away a lot of people in the past, some of them very well-known here in OT.
[QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree. MAILER_DAEMON
Think about what you're saying for a moment. As tight of a watch as the admins keep on us, don't you think they'd know if we were using alt accounts for duplicitous purposes? Take the foil hat off and think about things. Things are a lot more simple around here than you think they are... we enforce the Terms of Use, keep the boards clean, and moderate discussions. That's all. Agendas get tossed out the window, along with moderators who don't make the cut after the I-mod phase. The terms of service are subject to interpretation. Now the only question is, who's interepretation at the time. The moderators of course, You know this more than anyone. No offens e to you or any moderator, but it's a flawed system with too much personal bias involved. You know it, I know it. As far as the admins are concerned, do you really think a few dozen people have the time to police 100,000's of accounts to see who owns what?
People just suck at upholding the rules. Most moderations are for spam, lack of a qualitative comment, or someone insults someone else. Now sarcasm, is something you can almost always get away with, look at LJS, he always responds to people sarcastically and im sure he never gets moderated
[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree. Lakin0817
Think about what you're saying for a moment. As tight of a watch as the admins keep on us, don't you think they'd know if we were using alt accounts for duplicitous purposes? Take the foil hat off and think about things. Things are a lot more simple around here than you think they are... we enforce the Terms of Use, keep the boards clean, and moderate discussions. That's all. Agendas get tossed out the window, along with moderators who don't make the cut after the I-mod phase. The terms of service are subject to interpretation. Now the only question is, who's interepretation at the time. The moderators of course, You know this more than anyone. No offens e to you or any moderator, but it's a flawed system with too much personal bias involved. You know it, I know it. As far as the admins are concerned, do you really think a few dozen people have the time to police 100,000's of accounts to see who owns what? It's actually pretty easy to figure it out. Mods even have limited use of the system, though it's only a very small piece of what the admins can use. I'll just say this: they know. You're on a high-dollar website... do you seriously think they only have IP trackers? What evidence do you have for your claims anyway about mods trolling with alt accounts? As for your first comment, no system is perfect, but you haven't suggested anything to make it better. You're still ignoring what I've said about there being checks and balances.
Some of the grey areas in the ToU could be done something with. And sometimes the "one word posts" shouldn't be moderated. But then again I don't know if you will be moderated if you say "thanks". In overall I don't think they are to strict. Not here in OT atleast. The mods are doing a good joob :)
[QUOTE="Lakin0817"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree. MAILER_DAEMON
Think about what you're saying for a moment. As tight of a watch as the admins keep on us, don't you think they'd know if we were using alt accounts for duplicitous purposes? Take the foil hat off and think about things. Things are a lot more simple around here than you think they are... we enforce the Terms of Use, keep the boards clean, and moderate discussions. That's all. Agendas get tossed out the window, along with moderators who don't make the cut after the I-mod phase. The terms of service are subject to interpretation. Now the only question is, who's interepretation at the time. The moderators of course, You know this more than anyone. No offens e to you or any moderator, but it's a flawed system with too much personal bias involved. You know it, I know it. As far as the admins are concerned, do you really think a few dozen people have the time to police 100,000's of accounts to see who owns what? It's actually pretty easy to figure it out. Mods even have limited use of the system, though it's only a very small piece of what the admins can use. I'll just say this: they know. You're on a high-dollar website... do you seriously think they only have IP trackers? What evidence do you have for your claims anyway about mods trolling with alt accounts? As for your first comment, no system is perfect, but you haven't suggested anything to make it better. You're still ignoring what I've said about there being checks and balances. Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules.
[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Has nothing to do with "strict" perse vs being part of gamespots little cliche'. More along the lines of, if you disagree with their views or say something a moderator disagree's with, the moderate you. There are some people who have duel accounts. One to troll these forums to post their opinions, and the other to moderate if you disagree. Lakin0817
Think about what you're saying for a moment. As tight of a watch as the admins keep on us, don't you think they'd know if we were using alt accounts for duplicitous purposes? Take the foil hat off and think about things. Things are a lot more simple around here than you think they are... we enforce the Terms of Use, keep the boards clean, and moderate discussions. That's all. Agendas get tossed out the window, along with moderators who don't make the cut after the I-mod phase. The terms of service are subject to interpretation. Now the only question is, who's interepretation at the time. The moderators of course, You know this more than anyone. No offens e to you or any moderator, but it's a flawed system with too much personal bias involved. You know it, I know it. As far as the admins are concerned, do you really think a few dozen people have the time to police 100,000's of accounts to see who owns what? It's actually pretty easy to figure it out. Mods even have limited use of the system, though it's only a very small piece of what the admins can use. I'll just say this: they know. You're on a high-dollar website... do you seriously think they only have IP trackers? What evidence do you have for your claims anyway about mods trolling with alt accounts? As for your first comment, no system is perfect, but you haven't suggested anything to make it better. You're still ignoring what I've said about there being checks and balances. Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules. And here comes mr.conspiracy theory..
Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules. Lakin0817
Since you insulted me, I'm only left to assume that nothing that I say will satisfy you other than a blanket apology and an admission of guilt, correct? Yet I'll still say that the admins are more involved than you'd think, and the community managers don't see one red cent from subscription dollars. I'm not trying to convince you of the truth at this point, since you're already convinced that you're right about things.
I'm assuming the mods are the ones who read the abuse reports from people. My problem is it seems as though as long and they report you the moderater doesn't look at the context of the thread or even what has been said by you and to you. They simply give you a 7 day suspension. It upsets me and then people say : take your case to ask the mods" i say "haha like that ever works" What if youv'e been suspended how are you supposed to ask them, and also what if you're banned :BAN DODGERS!!!" so then what the IP adress ban you and if you can create another acount to plead your case your a ban dodger. the system is flawed to the max.
I'm assuming the mods are the ones who read the abuse reports from people. My problem is it seems as though as long and they report you the moderater doesn't look at the context of the thread or even what has been said by you and to you. They simply give you a 7 day suspension. It upsets me and then people say : take your case to ask the mods" i say "haha like that ever works" What if youv'e been suspended how are you supposed to ask them, and also what if you're banned :BAN DODGERS!!!" so then what the IP adress ban you and if you can create another acount to plead your case your a ban dodger. the system is flawed to the max. kingyotoX
2 words for you: Customer Support.
Everyone ignores it. Everyone talks about how they "have" to make another account.
[QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules. MAILER_DAEMON
Since you insulted me, I'm only left to assume that nothing that I say will satisfy you other than a blanket apology and an admission of guilt, correct? Yet I'll still say that the admins are more involved than you'd think, and the community managers don't see one red cent from subscription dollars. I'm not trying to convince you of the truth at this point, since you're already convinced that you're right about things. I wasn't trying to insult you, for that I apologize. And yes, I am convinced because I've experienced it first hand. It's a bit frustrating when someone tells me something isnt happening when it's already happened to me and many others. You're a moderator, you have a bias opinion. You want to believe in the organization you're affiliated with, I respect that. But truth is truth, they aquire these moderators based on who knows what, to be the moral police on gamespot. All with their own ideas and opinions. How can they not allow their personal views be involved.
But what's the difference between something like "hahahaha" and "That is so funny"? Or between quoting someone without typing any text and "I totally agree with your opinion"?
i think so. about every month i get a warning for something. the other day there was a thread about forgetting a condom when having intercourse with a girl. i talked about pulling out... i got message delete but still kind of strict.
[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules. Lakin0817
Since you insulted me, I'm only left to assume that nothing that I say will satisfy you other than a blanket apology and an admission of guilt, correct? Yet I'll still say that the admins are more involved than you'd think, and the community managers don't see one red cent from subscription dollars. I'm not trying to convince you of the truth at this point, since you're already convinced that you're right about things. I wasn't trying to insult you, for that I apologize. And yes, I am convinced because I've experienced it first hand. It's a bit frustrating when someone tells me something isnt happening when it's already happened to me and many others. You're a moderator, you have a bias opinion. You want to believe in the organization you're affiliated with, I respect that. But truth is truth, they aquire these moderators based on who knows what, to be the moral police on gamespot. All with their own ideas and opinions. How can they not allow their personal views be involved. What seems to be the case is that you're angry about us not agreeing with you over your reports. Is there a perfect system? Are people perfect? No. You haven't suggested anything as to how things could get better though, nor have you provided any examples (along with "why") of better communities. Gamespot isn't the best one, but is it better than many out there? That's why I'm still a mod here despite everything that went down last year.
but they're definitely too harsh. A lot of times the excuse is to put it in the blog. What the hell? If it makes the place more interesting and doesn't offend/bother you, why delete it?
[QUOTE="Lakin0817"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Lakin0817"]Once your smoke clears and your mirrors are dirty Mr.Moderator, it still comes down to being up to the moderator at hand who decides what is "right" and what is "wrong". I've seen it personally several times first hand. I have written several things that didn't harm anyone or offend a soul, but it was disagreeable by a certain group, the moderator at hand agreed with this group and carried out my sentence at his discretion. As far as your checks and balances, do you really think that the admins are going to take the time to police everyone who owns an account on here? I mean seriously, I doubt any of the admins have time, they are too busy trying to make more money off all of us lab rats. The mods interpret their own "rules" and react to them according to what they feel is right, not according to laws and rules. MAILER_DAEMON
Since you insulted me, I'm only left to assume that nothing that I say will satisfy you other than a blanket apology and an admission of guilt, correct? Yet I'll still say that the admins are more involved than you'd think, and the community managers don't see one red cent from subscription dollars. I'm not trying to convince you of the truth at this point, since you're already convinced that you're right about things. I wasn't trying to insult you, for that I apologize. And yes, I am convinced because I've experienced it first hand. It's a bit frustrating when someone tells me something isnt happening when it's already happened to me and many others. You're a moderator, you have a bias opinion. You want to believe in the organization you're affiliated with, I respect that. But truth is truth, they aquire these moderators based on who knows what, to be the moral police on gamespot. All with their own ideas and opinions. How can they not allow their personal views be involved. What seems to be the case is that you're angry about us not agreeing with you over your reports. Is there a perfect system? Are people perfect? No. You haven't suggested anything as to how things could get better though, nor have you provided any examples (along with "why") of better communities. Gamespot isn't the best one, but is it better than many out there? That's why I'm still a mod here despite everything that went down last year.Well I'm not expecting a perfect system. But calling a flawed system a good system isn't the solution either. Instead of lone moderators, have a board of four or five who review them together. but you and I both know that's not going to happen. Mainly due to monetary issues. Giving one person the power to arrest, judge and convict will always lead to corruption. If you want a good moral system, you have to pay for it. Gamespot isn't willing to, so they'll settle for their flawed system.
Last week I got a locked thread and warning for posting something in the PS3 board when it should have been in some hardware board instead. Since when does accidently posting in the wrong board not realizing there was another one break the ToS and warrant a warning? :|
I find it really funny that the mod's give everyone warnings every 2 seconds, taking their jobs so seriously. All the while the higher ups at GameSpot are laughing all the way to the bank that the mod's here actually work for free.
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