Do you think h0mosexuality is a choice?

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#301 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

Uh....what?

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scientists claim serial killers are born that way also

You're damaged goods... my advice is to lock yourself in a hermetically sealed box with no internet access.

im sorry your brain cant comprehend what i say
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#302 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] do serial killers have a choice?cee1gee

Uh....what?

scientists claim serial killers are born that way also

And this has what to do with the topic at hand?

Is having blue eyes a choice? No you're born that way! ZOMG having blue eyes is akin to being a serial killer!

I'm not even going to entertain the thought that anything you have to post from here on out is worth while.

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#303 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] scientists claim serial killers are born that way alsocee1gee

You're damaged goods... my advice is to lock yourself in a hermetically sealed box with no internet access.

im sorry your brain cant comprehend what i say

Oh, I understand what you're saying... the obvious bigotry of a simple mind isn't hard to grasp. It's that very understanding which leads me to suggest that you lock yourself away from the world, or at LEAST be steralized. God forbid your genetic material makes it to another generation. You see, some people here want to reason with you... to me, you've already stopped being a person... you're just a source of ignorant text.

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#304 Shadow4020
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It's not a choice.

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#305 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] You're damaged goods... my advice is to lock yourself in a hermetically sealed box with no internet access.

Frame_Dragger

im sorry your brain cant comprehend what i say

Oh, I understand what you're saying... the obvious bigotry of a simple mind isn't hard to grasp. It's that very understanding which leads me to suggest that you lock yourself away from the world, or at LEAST be steralized. God forbid your genetic material makes it to another generation. You see, some people here want to reason with you... to me, you've already stopped being a person... you're just a source of ignorant text.

you werent reasoning with me, you had your opinion i had mine LOL why try to persuade me into what YOU think is right..when there clearly isnt a right or wrong answer
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#306 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] im sorry your brain cant comprehend what i saycee1gee

Oh, I understand what you're saying... the obvious bigotry of a simple mind isn't hard to grasp. It's that very understanding which leads me to suggest that you lock yourself away from the world, or at LEAST be steralized. God forbid your genetic material makes it to another generation. You see, some people here want to reason with you... to me, you've already stopped being a person... you're just a source of ignorant text.

you werent reasoning with me, you had your opinion i had mine LOL why try to persuade me into what YOU think is right..when there clearly isnt a right or wrong answer

There is a right answer, but you wouldn't know what it was if it bit you on the as$. That's not the point though... what matters is just how affordable vasectomies have become, and my willingness to pay for yours.

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#307 tocool340
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Well....I want to say it depends entirely on the person. I know some decided to turn homo because of past failure relationships. Others simply are attracted to the same sex... But I doubt its a choice...
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#308 TheFatPerson
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]

[QUOTE="cee1gee"] im sorry your brain cant comprehend what i saycee1gee

Oh, I understand what you're saying... the obvious bigotry of a simple mind isn't hard to grasp. It's that very understanding which leads me to suggest that you lock yourself away from the world, or at LEAST be steralized. God forbid your genetic material makes it to another generation. You see, some people here want to reason with you... to me, you've already stopped being a person... you're just a source of ignorant text.

you werent reasoning with me, you had your opinion i had mine LOL why try to persuade me into what YOU think is right..when there clearly isnt a right or wrong answer

Because being a bigot IS the wrong thing to go about viewing and observing different people. I'm incredibly surprised you see nothing wrong with judging and condemning other people for what sex they are attracted to, which is something they DON'T have control over. It's not even something that should matter to you to begin with.

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#309 Ilovegames1992
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Georgie boy, was gay i guess. Nothing more, nothing less. The kindest guy i ever knew.

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#310 RisethNameless
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No, I don't.
I am bisexual, I did NOT choose to be bisexual

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#311 ShadowMoses900
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It's a very complex qustion, I don't think it's nessecarrily a connsince choice but I don't think people are born gay either. I think it has to do with the way a person develops and what they are expsoed to or raised like ect...environmental factors I guess you could say. I know some gay people and some say they were born that way and others say they became gay after something happened to them in their life, so who knows?

There isn't any evidence to suggest people are born gay though, many of those studies are biased and have an agenda, same goes for the people who believe them. I say wait until there is solid evidnece, I don't think there isthough because I don't believe people are born gay And there can't be a gay gene because that makes no sense from an evolutionary point of view, either way I think they should still have the same rights as straight couples, but I don't think they should be married.

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#312 cee1gee
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Oh, I understand what you're saying... the obvious bigotry of a simple mind isn't hard to grasp. It's that very understanding which leads me to suggest that you lock yourself away from the world, or at LEAST be steralized. God forbid your genetic material makes it to another generation. You see, some people here want to reason with you... to me, you've already stopped being a person... you're just a source of ignorant text.

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you werent reasoning with me, you had your opinion i had mine LOL why try to persuade me into what YOU think is right..when there clearly isnt a right or wrong answer

Because being a bigot IS the wrong thing to go about viewing and observing different people. I'm incredibly surprised you see nothing wrong with judging and condemning other people for what sex they are attracted to, which is something they DON'T have control over. It's not even something that should matter to you to begin with.

sorry sir but im able to tell you what is the right choice..and the Lord said its wrong..and I will believe Jesus over anyone...but i forgive you all and i dont hate anyone..im just saying even though your homosexual...try to mate with females and reproduce..its the right thing
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#313 themajormayor
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No and neither is heterosexuality I think

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#314 Shmiity
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It's a very complex qustion, I don't think it's nessecarrily a connsince choice but I don't think people are born gay either. I think it has to do with the way a person develops and what they are expsoed to or raised like ect...environmental factors I guess you could say. I know some gay people and some say they were born that way and others say they became gay after something happened to them in their life, so who knows?

There isn't any evidence to suggest people are born gay though, many of those studies are biased and have an agenda, same goes for the people who believe them. I say wait until there is solid evidnece, I don't think there isthough because I don't believe people are born gay And there can't be a gay gene because that makes no sense from an evolutionary point of view, either way I think they should still have the same rights as straight couples, but I don't think they should be married.

ShadowMoses900

I almost said "Good point". Then you said "They shouldnt be able to marry". Then I got upset. I think this user has a pretty good reasoning... but no matter why/how you are gay all gay people should be equal to everyone else- fact is, they arent, and that's not okay!

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#315 JustBeYourself
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"] sorry sir but im able to tell you what is the right choice..and the Lord said its wrong..and I will believe Jesus over anyone...but i forgive you all and i dont hate anyone..im just saying even though your homosexual...try to mate with females and reproduce..its the right thing

Jesus never said homosexuality was wrong, the God of the Old Testament said it. Christianity is based around the teachings of Christ in the New Testament, hence the name "CHRISTianity". But that's a whole notha matter altogether so I'm not really going to get further into that. Just wanted to point out that saying Jesus actually said it was wrong is inaccurate, regardless of your interpretation of the trinity.
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#316 JustBeYourself
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]No, because heterosexuality isn't a choice either. You can't choose your sexuality, anyone who says otherwise is full of ****. cee1gee
do serial killers have a choice?

You're confused. Engaging in homosexual sex is a choice. Killing someone is a choice. Being sexually orientated to find the same sex attractive is not a choice. Having murderous thoughts and tendencies generally isn't a choice either. You seem very confused so just read that over a couple of times until you understand that homosexuality is about your orientation, not how you choose to act on it.
Well....I want to say it depends entirely on the person. I know some decided to turn homo because of past failure relationships. tocool340
One does not "turn" homo If someone is able to have sexual relations with both men and women then they are somewhat bisexual. Being with a man will not make them gay and being with a woman will not make them straight, they will always be bisexual in orientation in the sense that both men and women can arouse them.
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#317 Devil-Itachi
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Not really. Even if it is possible for them choose it's a very difficult process to go through, likely to fail and not worth it.
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#318 rawsavon
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...the only choice they have is whether or not to be fabulous
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#319 Gaming-Planet
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Just like my attractions towards certain women isn't a choice.

I just can't see myself in bed with another dude, not that I feel wrong about because others think so. I don't find it arousing at all.

Like for me, I could easily turn myself into a woman and take girl hormones to look like one with boobs and stuff. I don't really have a specific gender since I tend to have interests in both. But my taste in people have always been women, women just look damn sexy.

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#320 metroidprime55
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I don't think it's a choice, I mean that would imply that a gay man can switch between being straight and being gay at any time but he can't.
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#321 Gaming-Planet
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[QUOTE="cee1gee"][QUOTE="JustBeYourself"][QUOTE="cee1gee"] its a cheap way out of it and i think homosexuals made that up back in the day not to get killed...seriously im not trolling thats just my theory

I am telling you that I never chose to attracted to people of the same sex, it simply was that way for as long as I can remember. Now simple question, am I just telling you lies?

i honestly dont think your trying to tell me a lie...i just think u REALLY BELIEVE what you just said so no your not lying... answer me this though...you said "as long as you can remember" what age about?

Actually, serial killers are born. The pleasure they get out of from killing has been lurking within since birth. Usually they start off with abusing animals or torturing them, or whatever it takes to get pleasure out of, and then they work they up to real human beings. A lot of studies believe it's developed from trauma, or at least that is one factor. They are unsure but they say they lack something that normal people are born with. It's like disconnected neurons in your brain. So, yeah... that's not much of a choice. What is a choice is to get the hell away from society to prevent any danger in yourself and others. The urge to kill will be there or the feeling of no empathy when you kill somebody.
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#322 sonofsmeagle
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No, I don't think I could enjoy sucking someone's d!ck on a whim.

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yes that would be a stretch :lol:
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#323 MystikFollower
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Obviously its a choice. Just like I made the chose to stay straight.Captain_Swosh69
the church can help gay men go straight, its true

And straight boys go gay.

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#324 Bucked20
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You can be born gay and choose to be gay /thread
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#325 xMistress
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Most of the time no it's not, but I think it could be.
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#326 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"][QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"]Obviously its a choice. Just like I made the chose to stay straight.MystikFollower

the church can help gay men go straight, its true

And straight boys go gay.

SNAP!
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#327 jesuschristmonk
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I didn't choose to like girls. I just like girls.

I can't speak for gay people, but I'm pretty sure that because they're also human beings, they function the same way as the rest of us. So if a dude was born to like other dudes (vice versa), that's how it was. You don't go through a "choice phase," where you see if you like boys or girls, it's just how you are.

Is it that freaking difficult for anyone to understand??

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#328 dracula_16
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No, in the same way that nobody chooses to be straight.

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#330 themajormayor
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Eating chocolate is a choice, but, like the taste of chocolate is not a choice. This applies to all the food you like to eat.magicalclick
I think you can change your taste. If something bad happens every time you eat chocolate you'll associate chocolate with this bad thing, eventually you'll start to not like chocolate. So maybe you can force yourself(choosing) to not like chocolate. Just sayin.
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#331 Frame_Dragger
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Eating chocolate is a choice, but, like the taste of chocolate is not a choice. This applies to all the food you like to eat.magicalclick
Click... you occasionally give me an aneurysm in science threads, but it's good to see that you have a mind and a conscience. (my version of a compliment)
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#332 Frame_Dragger
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You can be born gay and choose to be gay /thread Bucked20
You can choose to ignore your preferences, but you can't actaully STOP them from being your preferences. I can not eat carrots, but I stil LIKE carrots.
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#333 ghoklebutter
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No, in the same way that nobody chooses to be straight.

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I'm curious as to how you can believe that homosexuality is innate, yet you're a strong Muslim. =S
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#334 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="Bucked20"]You can be born gay and choose to be gay /thread Frame_Dragger
You can choose to ignore your preferences, but you can't actaully STOP them from being your preferences. I can not eat carrots, but I stil LIKE carrots.

You can. Look at my post.
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#335 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]You can be born gay and choose to be gay /thread themajormayor
You can choose to ignore your preferences, but you can't actaully STOP them from being your preferences. I can not eat carrots, but I stil LIKE carrots.

You can. Look at my post.

Aversion therapy is largely a myth... A Clockwork Orange is fiction. Yes, it CAN work, but the initial preference generally re-asserts itself, and that for something minor, not your entire sexual orientation.
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#336 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]Well....I want to say it depends entirely on the person. I know some decided to turn homo because of past failure relationships. JustBeYourself
One does not "turn" homo If someone is able to have sexual relations with both men and women then they are somewhat bisexual. Being with a man will not make them gay and being with a woman will not make them straight, they will always be bisexual in orientation in the sense that both men and women can arouse them.

No, I'm pretty sure they were straight. Then again, they could have been a sleeper bisexual and just didn't know they had any attraction to the same sex. I guess you could be right...

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#337 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Of course not..
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#338 Johnny_Rock
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I'm not asking if you think its genetic or whatever, but simply whether you think homosexuals decide to be sexually attracted to people of the same sex. I've talked to several people recently who believe that somehow gay people can just choose their sexual orientation as easy as choosing between buying a pepsi or a coke. Even when I've said to their face that as a gay male, I've never made any such decision in my life and have been attracted to people of the same sex my entire life before I even knew what homosexuality was....they still hold that opinion which is both confusing and insulting at the same time. They use examples who have apparently become straight from being gay either after some kind of religious experience (i.e. being shamed into pretending to be straight) or just because they felt like it (surely they were somewhat bisexual to begin with, I can safely say a woman does NOTHING for me). I'm not going to claim that there isn't the possibility of some psychological procedure invented in the future that can change a person's sexual orientation, but that doesn't mean people ever have a choice in what sexual orientation they have. What do you believe? (Also its kind of offensive that this forum censors the word h0mosexuality)JustBeYourself

Well do you think that heterosexuals choose to be attracted to people of the opposite sex? There's your answer.

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[QUOTE="ganon92"][QUOTE="Captain_Swosh69"]ya, i know gay porn, but what do real couples do, u know?Captain_Swosh69
Could you not use your imagination or something?

well i see some gay couples that just seems to enjoy each others company, sometimes i think thats all they want, and all they need, they dont really want that in the poop chute or scissors, i think, but if 1 partner wants it, does the other willing to spread his/her cheeks?

I couldn't help but laugh at this comment :lol: I'm not really sure what your asking here but I'm guessing it has something to do with a partner agreeing to anal or not. Sex between two men does not always involve the "poop chute". I think the gay porn industry has really put out this idea of anal being a big part of it (almost like a staple). As far as I know, many gay guys don't enjoy it to begin with.

Back on topic,I don't believe it's a choice to be gay Although there is currently no substantial evidence or proof, I think it's genetic and environmental (both combined)

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#342 DJ-PRIME90
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I don't think its necessarily a choice, but I do think its based on how they were raised.
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#343 mindstorm
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There is a sense in which homosexual desires is not a choice but following through with those desires certainly is a choice.
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#344 lowkey254
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I think it's a choice to act upon.

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#345 JustPlainLucas
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There's no way I can explain my point of view without offending someone, so I simply won't express my opinion.