Do you think the Government had anything to do with the JFK assassination?

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#1 Vilot_Hero
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I know for certain the Government had something to do with it. They could of paid the mob or Soviet Bloc to kill him. Why was there 3 shots fired? Maybe several organizations wanted to assassinate JFK. When JFK was shot, the bullet entered his upper back. Couldn't the FBI of sent a sniper in the building covering Elm street? Thoughts?? No conspiracy pictures Gabu. I think the Government was up to something...Same with WW2 and 9/11.

JFK route http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dealey-plaza-annotated.png

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#2 freshgman
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i shot him. he stole marlyin from me
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#3 duxup
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I haven't seen any reason to think so.
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#4 Vilot_Hero
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I'm serious freshgman:| The JFK assassination is serious business.
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#5 EMOEVOLUTION
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No. I don't believe in conspiracy theories on this level. The Government wasn't involved in his killing. They may not have released who really killed him though.
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#6 Vilot_Hero
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I haven't seen any reason to think so.duxup
What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.
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#7 snakes_codec
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i dont like most conspiracy theories but in the case of JFK i do think the government had something to do with it .
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#8 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.Vilot_Hero
What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Are we talking about tinfoil hat stuff here?

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.duxup

What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Are we talking about tinfoil hat stuff here?

Yes.

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#10 Oleg_Huzwog
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We've been over this before. It was me. It was my bad. I was shooting at (what I thought was) a squirrel and missed. Turned out the creature that I was hunting was actually Jackie O's hat.
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#11 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.duxup

What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Are we talking about tinfoil hat stuff here?

Haha...Good one:| This is serious. The Secret Service Agents changed the route, before JFK left. That seems a little suspicious.

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I know for certain the Government had something to do with it. They could of paid the mob or Soviet Bloc to kill him. Why was there 3 shots fired? Maybe several organizations wanted to assassinate JFK. When JFK was shot, the bullet entered his upper back. Couldn't the FBI of sent a sniper in the building covering Elm street? Thoughts?? No conspiracy pictures Gabu. I think the Government was up to something...Same with WW2 and 9/11.

JFK route http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dealey-plaza-annotated.png

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I totally trust the goverment.

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#13 Vilot_Hero
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How can you trust the Government????JFK and 9/11 are perfect examples of corrupt agencies.
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#14 bsman00
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[QUOTE="duxup"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.Vilot_Hero

Are we talking about tinfoil hat stuff here?

Haha...Good one:| This is serious. The Secret Service Agents changed the route, before JFK left. That seems a little suspicious.

Yes and also the secret service agents where not walking next to the car like they were suppose too... and the drivers responsibility is to protect the president... and did you notice he looks back after the first shoot and does nothing... then the kill shoot comes and the dude floors it... i find this odd

Yes the cia did it... and there was a 3rd party investigation on this of the sounds recordings of all the mics that where on that day... and they said there was a 95% possibility there was a shoot fired from the grasses knoll....

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How can you trust the Government????JFK and 9/11 are perfect examples of corrupt agencies.Vilot_Hero
Who cares, I'm sure they had a good reason. Never heard of two goverments? The puppet politicians and the real deal. I wouldn't be surprised if everything is fine and were just being fooled by actors and scenes.
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[QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.Vilot_Hero
What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Sure they do. The steel skeleton of the building was superheated by the explosion of the plane and the fuel and failed. Then you start a pancake effect with the floors...

If you knew anything about structural engineering you would understand how its very possible. 

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.Cloud_Insurance

What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Sure they do. The steel skeleton of the building was superheated by the explosion of the plane and the fuel and failed. Then you start a pancake effect with the floors...

If you knew anything about structural engineering you would understand how its very possible.

A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.
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#19 Enosh88
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that's all I have to say

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#20 FragStains
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It doesn't really matter either way. But people should stop being paranoid that everyone and everything  is out to get them.  

I thought I was cynical.

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#21 Oleg_Huzwog
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A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.Vilot_Hero

"science" degree?

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#22 Vilot_Hero
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There's nothing to facepalm about Enosh:| I'm not going to rest until the American Government admits, that they had something to do with the JFK assassination.
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#23 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.Oleg_Huzwog

"science" degree?

Physics, gravity and all the associates.

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#24 Sam_Phisher
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that's all I have to say

Enosh88

To what exactly are you facepalming?

This is the reason why posts like yours are disruptive and dont add squat to the conversation.

 

 

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#25 Cloud_Insurance
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.Vilot_Hero

Sure they do. The steel skeleton of the building was superheated by the explosion of the plane and the fuel and failed. Then you start a pancake effect with the floors...

If you knew anything about structural engineering you would understand how its very possible.

A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.

Um, where did I say the steel supports melted? I didn't. Because they didn't. When you heat something up, it loses its strength and becomes less rigid. With many things, such as metal, if you heat something enough, you can bend it.

I don't care about your thread with some dude who has a science degree. This was figured out by groups of people much smarter than you and me, by people that actually designed the building in the first place.  

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There's nothing to facepalm about Enosh:| I'm not going to rest until the American Government admits, that they had something to do with the JFK assassination.Vilot_Hero
What if they admit so that you stop making threads about it...but as they admit it, they cross their toes? And roll their eyes after you leave.
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#27 Cloud_Insurance
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Read this brief explanation and then shush.
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#28 Vilot_Hero
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

Sure they do. The steel skeleton of the building was superheated by the explosion of the plane and the fuel and failed. Then you start a pancake effect with the floors...

If you knew anything about structural engineering you would understand how its very possible.

Cloud_Insurance

A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.

Um, where did I say the steel supports melted? I didn't. Because they didn't. When you heat something up, it loses its strength and becomes less rigid. With many things, such as metal, if you heat something enough, you can bend it.

I don't care about your thread with some dude who has a science degree. This was figured out by groups of people much smarter than you and me, by people that actually designed the building in the first place.

I'll post the specs of the Twin Towers and the plane?? I know how metal reacts with other chemicals/forumla's....I'm very smart at chemistry. The Twin Tower just doesnt fall in a few seconds because of one plane.....And what about a worker in the building hearing a ticking noise underneath the building??Are you calling him a liar? I'm sure everyone knows 9/11 was staged by the Government.

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#30 astiop
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There's nothing to facepalm about Enosh:| I'm not going to rest until the American Government admits, that they had something to do with the JFK assassination.Vilot_Hero

 

Then you must achieve immortality cause thats never gonna happen, whether they did have something to do with it or not.

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And what about a worker in the building hearing a ticking noise underneath the building??Are you calling him a liar?Vilot_Hero

Are you suggesting controlled demolitions use explosives with audible ticking like something out of a cartoon? *pictures an alarm clock strapped to a pack of dynamite*

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#32 Vilot_Hero
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The FBI/CIA has great technology in their arsenal.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]There's nothing to facepalm about Enosh:| I'm not going to rest until the American Government admits, that they had something to do with the JFK assassination.astiop

Then you must achieve immortality cause thats never gonna happen, whether they did have something to do with it or not.

They won't admit it, but we all know the Government was involved.
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#34 Sam_Phisher
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Read this brief explanation and then shush. Cloud_Insurance

all that is the same nonsense that gets repeated over and over by the media. nothing concrete there

 

 

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#35 Oleg_Huzwog
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The FBI/CIA has great technology in their arsenal.Vilot_Hero

Yep, they've got everything except detonators that don't go TICK TICK TICK TICK.

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]The FBI/CIA has great technology in their arsenal.Oleg_Huzwog

Yep, they've got everything except detonators that don't go TICK TICK TICK TICK.

Ticking might not of been the exact definition, but the digital timers you would find on any C4 or other variant of explosive device.
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#37 bsman00
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If you want to know what really happen that day just look up William Rodriguez he was the janitor of the WTC... here is one interview with him... im not sure if its this one or another but he talks about how he found dead bodys before the plane hits

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8536008651248732897

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Wow, someone needs to lay off the crazy pills.
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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Read this brief explanation and then shush. Sam_Phisher

all that is the same nonsense that gets repeated over and over by the media. nothing concrete there

 

 

What are you serious? Thats physics, chemistry, engineering. Its proof.

Why would the US Govt have had anything to do with 9/11? Compare the current economic state of the country (9/11 having a huge impact on what it is today), to the economy pre 9/11. That should eliminate all your paranoia.  

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[QUOTE="Sam_Phisher"]

[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]Read this brief explanation and then shush. Cloud_Insurance

all that is the same nonsense that gets repeated over and over by the media. nothing concrete there

What are you serious? Thats physics, chemistry, engineering. Its proof.

Why would the US Govt have had anything to do with 9/11? Compare the current economic state of the country (9/11 having a huge impact on what it is today), to the economy pre 9/11. That should eliminate all your paranoia.

You should look up the owner of the twin towers... and how he changed his insurance to cover terrorist attacks weeks before 9/11... and after 9/11 he got a huge pay out in the billions... and he said since there was 2 planes.... that counts as two acts of terrorism... so he could get more money....

just follow the money

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No.
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#42 bsman00
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No. dave123321

Alex Jones was in scanner darkly

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#43 dave123321
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Alex Jones was in scanner darkly

bsman00

Thanks for the info. 

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[QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.Vilot_Hero
What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

It was not seconds, it was minutes. The impact of the crash, blew all of the flame retardant covering off the steel framework, then the fire from the jet fuel melted the steel, the weak spots led to the collapse of the floors above onto the lower levels.

Why do people even think the goverrnment would kill JFK? Mythbusters did a firing test and proved that Oswald could have made the 7 wounds with one shot.

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[QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"][QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"]A person who had a science degree, explained that the fuel was not hot enough to melt it. I'll try to find the thread again.Vilot_Hero

 

Um, where did I say the steel supports melted? I didn't. Because they didn't. When you heat something up, it loses its strength and becomes less rigid. With many things, such as metal, if you heat something enough, you can bend it.

I don't care about your thread with some dude who has a science degree. This was figured out by groups of people much smarter than you and me, by people that actually designed the building in the first place.

I'll post the specs of the Twin Towers and the plane?? I know how metal reacts with other chemicals/forumla's....I'm very smart at chemistry. The Twin Tower just doesnt fall in a few seconds because of one plane.....And what about a worker in the building hearing a ticking noise underneath the building??Are you calling him a liar? I'm sure everyone knows 9/11 was staged by the Government.

.....there were two planes.
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This seemed appropriate.

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.duxup

What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

Are we talking about tinfoil hat stuff here?

That's how it always is when Violet Hero makes a thread...it's really annoying and it's TEN OR SO TOPICS a day, or at least it feels like it, but jeez I wish he/she would lay off the "new topic" button, it's just recycled conspiracy theories and most aren't even believable, what did the government have to do with JFK...mafia paying the army off for a good sniper or something?? Paying the mafia to take him out to stop his plans to nuke the 9/11 towers by going to the future?? :roll:

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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="Cloud_Insurance"]

Um, where did I say the steel supports melted? I didn't. Because they didn't. When you heat something up, it loses its strength and becomes less rigid. With many things, such as metal, if you heat something enough, you can bend it.

I don't care about your thread with some dude who has a science degree. This was figured out by groups of people much smarter than you and me, by people that actually designed the building in the first place.

FalcoLX

I'll post the specs of the Twin Towers and the plane?? I know how metal reacts with other chemicals/forumla's....I'm very smart at chemistry. The Twin Tower just doesnt fall in a few seconds because of one plane.....And what about a worker in the building hearing a ticking noise underneath the building??Are you calling him a liar? I'm sure everyone knows 9/11 was staged by the Government.

.....there were two planes.

Two planes is still not enough to take it down in a matter of seconds.
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[QUOTE="Vilot_Hero"][QUOTE="duxup"]I haven't seen any reason to think so.FalcoLX

What????Look at 9/11...The Twin Towers don't crumble because of one plane. The building collasped way too easily, and just fell down in a matter of seconds.

It was not seconds, it was minutes. The impact of the crash, blew all of the flame retardant covering off the steel framework, then the fire from the jet fuel melted the steel, the weak spots led to the collapse of the floors above onto the lower levels.

Why do people even think the goverrnment would kill JFK? Mythbusters did a firing test and proved that Oswald could have made the 7 wounds with one shot.

Hence the word "could". The Government knows more things than OT combined together. Have you heard of VP Johnson?? He had some good motives. How do you explain that no Secret Service Agents were around JFK, when they were suppose to? Something doesnt fit. Lee Oswald got killed and so did Ruby.