Do you think U.S media brainwashes people against Muslims?

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#151 one_plum
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I think at least many of Yahoo news viewers are considering the amount of thumbs up given to bigoted comments.

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#152 bobcheeseball
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I don't think brainwash is the right word, but yes Muslims are generally portrayed negatively in the news, but also in part because people are mainly interested in negativity.
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#153 CajunMadePunk
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We are all brainwashed.:|
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#154 TopTierHustler
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Muslims do that themselves

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#155 bobaban
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If you stop suicide bombing yourselves, honor killings, promoting Islam through fear and terror, and downgrading women - there won't be bad news about Muslims.
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#156 Ilovegames1992
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If you stop suicide bombing yourselves, honor killings, promoting Islam through fear and terror, and downgrading women - there won't be bad news about Muslims. bobaban

Because they all do that....

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#157 Mafiree
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Same with almost every culture..... kind of like anyone who is from California is asked if they surf. People stereotype......
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#158 Overlord93
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Er no, the extremists did that for them.
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#159 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="bobaban"]If you stop suicide bombing yourselves, honor killings, promoting Islam through fear and terror, and downgrading women - there won't be bad news about Muslims. Ilovegames1992

Because they all do that....

Then they should knock it the f*ck off already. :|

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#160 the_plan_man
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[QUOTE="t0taldj"]If you see my original post I never blamed Americans, I blamed the media for narrowing down the image of Muslims. Because that's the source of info for some ignorant people I met, who pretend they know more about my religion through "media". Nor am I saying that all Muslims are good human beings. By media I also meant any source of News on the internet. Sorry I didn't bring that up earlier. That was the whole point. Regarding the quick quote, a couple of days ago it wasn't working due to some technical problems with GS. Guess I got used to it.LJS9502_basic
Well US media really doesn't make Muslims out as negatives. 911 certainly brought Muslims to the forefront of Americans....not in a good way of course...prior to that there was no real talk about them. But in the interim between then and now.....not much talk goes on. Sure you will always have ignorant people with their stereotypes and generalizations but that isn't the entirety of the picture. I know we have Muslims in my community. No one bothers them in the least.

I've heard many negative stereotypes towards Muslims on Fox News and Bill Maher's show. The media doesn't completely paint them in a positive light.
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#161 Ilovegames1992
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[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

[QUOTE="bobaban"]If you stop suicide bombing yourselves, honor killings, promoting Islam through fear and terror, and downgrading women - there won't be bad news about Muslims. coolbeans90

Because they all do that....

Then they should knock it the f*ck off already. :|

My town refuses to let any brown person into the town centre for fear they will blow it up and run around draping the local women in unrevealing clothing.

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#162 coolbeans90
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]

Because they all do that....

Ilovegames1992

Then they should knock it the f*ck off already. :|

My town refuses to let any brown person into the town centre for fear they will blow it up and run around draping the local women in unrevealing clothing.

Terrorists, man.

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#163 Ninja-Hippo
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Yup. Case in point; a news story just today was focused on a new group called 'muslims for Obama'. It is merely a group of muslims who are raising money for his re-election campaign, yet the story was a negative one, as if the mere existence of muslims supporting Obama is a bad thing.
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#164 Iceozo
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I'm sure Fox news does.

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#165 WilliamRLBaker
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I've not noticed them slamming muslims and if they were brainwashing people we'd see alot of hangings, lynchings...etc

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#166 leeveeu
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After being to many European countries and some Muslim predominant ones, to cut a long story short, I can now truly appreciate the Western civilization.
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#167 eleven1181
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[QUOTE="eleven1181"]

I'm from the UK and can see why muslims dont like American people, America thinks it rules the world and basicaly just makes up an excuse to go into a country and it for all its resources so cant blam people really for not liking Americans.

LJS9502_basic

Ironically the relations in the UK with Muslims is much more negative than in the US. Put your house in order before preaching to anyone else.

Its not the uk who go in and rape countrys although we are stupid enough to go along with the americans

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#168 Vaultboy-101
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They are trying to brainwash the people, it's obvious they are trying to portray almost all middle eastern natives and muslims as outright terrorists, every single one of them. And most Americans are ignorant enough to believe it. It's all propaganda for a quick cash grab from countries the U.S otherwise couldn't interfere with legally.

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#169 leeveeu
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They are trying to brainwash the people, it's obvious they are trying to portray almost all middle eastern natives and muslims as outright terrorists, every single one of them. And most Americans are ignorant enough to believe it. It's all propaganda for a quick cash grab from countries the U.S otherwise couldn't interfere with legally.

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It's not all that. There is propaganda, true, but all the muslim countries I've been to are free ones. I didn't like it there, just let me give you an example: if you're crossing the street on the zebra, even though you are ok to cross and the car that is coming has plenty of time, they accelerate and they honk at you, flashing the lights too. This happened lots and lots of times.
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#170 o0squishy0o
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To a point yes but do you think that religion and its "brain washing" of you must do such and such and if you dont you will go to hell + believe in these ideas and morals and you are one of us because of this, is really any better?

If the US is anti-muslim then what can you say about religon thats any better? Its anti-homosexual, anti-blood transfusion, anti-abortion, anti-equal rights etc the list really goes on.

I know religon does have some nice things about it, be kind to people etc however those sort of morals and codes of life as it were; do not need re-enforcement by the fear factor that you will go to hell if you dont.

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#171 Stalkerfieldsis
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To a point yes but do you think that religion and its "brain washing" of you must do such and such and if you dont you will go to hell + believe in these ideas and morals and you are one of us because of this, is really any better?

If the US is anti-muslim then what can you say about religon thats any better? Its anti-homosexual, anti-blood transfusion, anti-abortion, anti-equal rights etc the list really goes on.

I know religon does have some nice things about it, be kind to people etc however those sort of morals and codes of life as it were; do not need re-enforcement by the fear factor that you will go to hell if you dont.

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How is anti-homosexual and anti abortion bad, I mean how really, what does society gain from killing babies and homosexuality. And how is religion in general anti-equal rights? Maybe radical Islam, but then you would be making the stupid mistake of Radical Religion=all religion.

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#172 Strider_91
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Media brainwashes people against everything, it's ridiculous how people believe anything they're told
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#173 tenaka2
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How is anti-homosexual and anti abortion bad, I mean how really, what does society gain from killing babies and homosexuality. And how is religion in general anti-equal rights? Maybe radical Islam, but then you would be making the stupid mistake of Radical Religion=all religion.

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Sir, your time machine is ready to return you to the 1950's, if you would please follow me.

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#174 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="eleven1181"]

I'm from the UK and can see why muslims dont like American people, America thinks it rules the world and basicaly just makes up an excuse to go into a country and it for all its resources so cant blam people really for not liking Americans.

eleven1181

Ironically the relations in the UK with Muslims is much more negative than in the US. Put your house in order before preaching to anyone else.

Its not the uk who go in and countrys although we are stupid enough to go along with the americans

UK has a terrible history....and that doesn't change the fact that there are problems in your country with immigratioin. BNP anyone?
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#175 MannyDelgado
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What's wrong with being anti-Muslim? The religion is a load of vile, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic bullsh*t.

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#176 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="eleven1181"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ironically the relations in the UK with Muslims is much more negative than in the US. Put your house in order before preaching to anyone else.LJS9502_basic

Its not the uk who go in and countrys although we are stupid enough to go along with the americans

UK has a terrible history....and that doesn't change the fact that there are problems in your country with immigratioin. BNP anyone?

F*ck off, you daft c*nt. The BNP are a fringe party. The kind of idiots who are mainstream politicians in the USA would never stand a chance here.
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#177 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="eleven1181"]

Its not the uk who go in and countrys although we are stupid enough to go along with the americans

MannyDelgado

UK has a terrible history....and that doesn't change the fact that there are problems in your country with immigratioin. BNP anyone?

F*ck off, you daft c*nt. The BNP are a fringe party. The kind of idiots who are mainstream politicians in the USA would never stand a chance here.

I suppose they are fine if you like racism....

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#178 Zaibach
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What's wrong with being anti-Muslim? The religion is a load of vile, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic bullsh*t.

MannyDelgado

quite RACIST arent we?

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#179 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

What's wrong with being anti-Muslim? The religion is a load of vile, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic bullsh*t.

Zaibach

quite RACIST arent we?

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.
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#180 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

What's wrong with being anti-Muslim? The religion is a load of vile, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic bullsh*t.

MannyDelgado

quite RACIST arent we?

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

True they aren't a race....but that doesn't negate the terms bigot, intolerance, and prejudiced.
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#181 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] UK has a terrible history....and that doesn't change the fact that there are problems in your country with immigratioin. BNP anyone?LJS9502_basic

F*ck off, you daft c*nt. The BNP are a fringe party. The kind of idiots who are mainstream politicians in the USA would never stand a chance here.

I suppose they are fine if you like racism....

Its a good point the UK's history of atrocities if pretty long and pretty recent.

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#182 peterw007
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

What's wrong with being anti-Muslim? The religion is a load of vile, homophobic, misogynistic, theocratic bullsh*t.

MannyDelgado

quite RACIST arent we?

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

It's double standards.

There are severe problems with lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

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#184 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

quite RACIST arent we?

LJS9502_basic

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

True they aren't a race....but that doesn't negate the terms bigot, intolerance, and prejudiced.

Okay, so I'm bigoted against misogynisy and homophobia and antisemitism. Is that bad?

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

quite RACIST arent we?

peterw007

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

It's double standards.

There are severe problems with lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

Which I am. Go away.
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#186 leeveeu
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

quite RACIST arent we?

peterw007

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

It's double-standards.

There's severe problems in lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

What? Double standards??? ROFL. So it's OK for muslims to dress up their women in clothes that they can barely breathe but at the same time for them to whistle after European/American women, pick on them on the streets if they are alone?
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#187 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.MannyDelgado

True they aren't a race....but that doesn't negate the terms bigot, intolerance, and prejudiced.

Okay, so I'm bigoted against misogynisy and homophobia and antisemitism. Is that bad?

You're bigoted against an entire group of people....yes that's bad. And not accepting homosexuality does not mean they fear it. I'm not sure what that word is ALWAYS used in the discussion.
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

quite RACIST arent we?

peterw007

Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.

It's double standards.

There are severe problems with lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

I don't like many of the more archaic practices that happen under the Islam religion. Why should that mean I have to be against different groups that don't practice stoning of flogging?

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#189 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] True they aren't a race....but that doesn't negate the terms bigot, intolerance, and prejudiced.LJS9502_basic

Okay, so I'm bigoted against misogynisy and homophobia and antisemitism. Is that bad?

You're bigoted against an entire group of people....yes that's bad. And not accepting homosexuality does not mean they fear it. I'm not sure what that word is ALWAYS used in the discussion.

Why is necessarily bad to be bigoted against an entire group of people? Aren't you bigoted against misogynists, for example? By the way, word meanings do not always follow their etymological roots, Einstein.
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#190 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Okay, so I'm bigoted against misogynisy and homophobia and antisemitism. Is that bad?

MannyDelgado

You're bigoted against an entire group of people....yes that's bad. And not accepting homosexuality does not mean they fear it. I'm not sure what that word is ALWAYS used in the discussion.

Why is necessarily bad to be bigoted against an entire group of people? Aren't you bigoted against misogynists, for example? By the way, word meanings do not always follow their etymological roots, Einstein.

I'm not bigoted against anyone. They can believe what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And don't turn this into a semantics argument. Because words get abused doesn't mean they are used properly.

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#191 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're bigoted against an entire group of people....yes that's bad. And not accepting homosexuality does not mean they fear it. I'm not sure what that word is ALWAYS used in the discussion.LJS9502_basic

Why is necessarily bad to be bigoted against an entire group of people? Aren't you bigoted against misogynists, for example? By the way, word meanings do not always follow their etymological roots, Einstein.

I'm not bigoted against anyone. They can believe what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And don't turn this into a semantics argument. Because words get abused doesn't mean they are used properly.

Mm, because when did Muslim misogyny and homophobia hurt anyone, right? And, uh, so when everyone uses a word differently to you, it means that THEY must be in the wrong? You're such a daft c*nt, you know that?
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[QUOTE="peterw007"]

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Are Muslims a race? No? Then f*ck off and stop wasting my time.LJS9502_basic

It's double standards.

There are severe problems with lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

I don't like many of the more archaic practices that happen under the Islam religion. Why should that mean I have to be against different groups that don't practice stoning of flogging?

Christianity was responsible for the murder of thousands (if not millions) of Native Americans all throughout North and South America.

Christianity justified slavery and racial segregation for hundreds of years within the USA.

It can't be that great a religion if all kinds of atrocities occurred "under the good name of Christianity."

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Any country that adopts Hinduism is a severely limited country, as the religion dictates that a poor man could never become anything else except a poor man, and that rich men can only be rich men because they were born that way.

It's completely ludicrous considering that we live in a 21st century society.

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What I'm saying is that you can't ignore the flaws of lots of religions just because Islam justifies archaic practices.

If you're going to condemn one religion, you have to condemn all of the infringing ones.

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#193 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Why is necessarily bad to be bigoted against an entire group of people? Aren't you bigoted against misogynists, for example? By the way, word meanings do not always follow their etymological roots, Einstein.MannyDelgado

I'm not bigoted against anyone. They can believe what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And don't turn this into a semantics argument. Because words get abused doesn't mean they are used properly.

Mm, because when did Muslim misogyny and homophobia hurt anyone, right? And, uh, so when everyone uses a word differently to you, it means that THEY must be in the wrong? You're such a daft c*nt, you know that?

So your stance is that it's okay for you to insult Muslims in general because they ALL act the same way? Is that your argument? You want to know what words mean look them up. I'm not turning this into a semantics argument. But just because OT does it.....generally isn't a selling point.
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#194 MannyDelgado
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I'm not bigoted against anyone. They can believe what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And don't turn this into a semantics argument. Because words get abused doesn't mean they are used properly.

LJS9502_basic

Mm, because when did Muslim misogyny and homophobia hurt anyone, right? And, uh, so when everyone uses a word differently to you, it means that THEY must be in the wrong? You're such a daft c*nt, you know that?

So your stance is that it's okay for you to insult Muslims in general because they ALL act the same way? Is that your argument? You want to know what words mean look them up. I'm not turning this into a semantics argument. But just because OT does it.....generally isn't a selling point.

No. My stance is that it's okay to insult Muslims in general because they claim that a book of vile first-millenium idiocy is the word of God.

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#195 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="peterw007"]

It's double standards.

There are severe problems with lots of religions.

If you are anti-Muslim, you should be anti-Christian and anti-Hinduist as well.

peterw007

I don't like many of the more archaic practices that happen under the Islam religion. Why should that mean I have to be against different groups that don't practice stoning of flogging?

Christianity was responsible for the murder of thousands (if not millions) of Native Americans all throughout North and South America.

Christianity justified slavery and racial segregation for hundreds of years within the USA.

It can't be that great a religion if all kinds of atrocities occurred "under the good name of Christianity."

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Any country that adopts Hinduism is a severely limited country, as the religion dictates that a poor man could never become anything else except a poor man.

It's completely ludicrous considering that we live in a 21st century society.

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What I'm saying is that you can't ignore the flaws of lots of religions just because Islam justifies archaic practices.

If you're going to condemn one religion, you have to condemn all of the infringing ones.

Okay first of all you can't blame the religion if people acted for greed. But if you want to do that.....EVERY GROUP HAS KILLED AND FOUGHT OVER RESOURCES IN HISTORY. Yes even before Christianity existed. But because person A claims to follow religion B does NOT mean they are doing the actions in the name of religion. NONE OF YOUR EXAMPLES WERE DONE BASED ON RELIGIOUS TEACHINGS. So that argument fails.

I will admit I don't know much about Hinduism but the problem tends more to be when a government is run by religious ideologies rather than the religion itself. So I'd guess that argument fails as wells. But like I said I haven't really studied too in depth Hinduism.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Mm, because when did Muslim misogyny and homophobia hurt anyone, right? And, uh, so when everyone uses a word differently to you, it means that THEY must be in the wrong? You're such a daft c*nt, you know that?MannyDelgado

So your stance is that it's okay for you to insult Muslims in general because they ALL act the same way? Is that your argument? You want to know what words mean look them up. I'm not turning this into a semantics argument. But just because OT does it.....generally isn't a selling point.

No. My stance is that it's okay to insult Muslims in general because they claim that a book of vile first-millenium idiocy is the word of God.

And you interpret this book as being only about violence....correct?
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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So your stance is that it's okay for you to insult Muslims in general because they ALL act the same way? Is that your argument? You want to know what words mean look them up. I'm not turning this into a semantics argument. But just because OT does it.....generally isn't a selling point.LJS9502_basic

No. My stance is that it's okay to insult Muslims in general because they claim that a book of vile first-millenium idiocy is the word of God.

And you interpret this book as being only about violence....correct?

What? No. What an enormously stupid thing to say.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]No. My stance is that it's okay to insult Muslims in general because they claim that a book of vile first-millenium idiocy is the word of God.

MannyDelgado

And you interpret this book as being only about violence....correct?

What? No. What an enormously stupid thing to say.

Then wouldn't it be "enormously stupid" to declare the adherents of the Quran as following a vile book?

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You're bigoted against an entire group of people....yes that's bad. And not accepting homosexuality does not mean they fear it. I'm not sure what that word is ALWAYS used in the discussion.LJS9502_basic

Why is necessarily bad to be bigoted against an entire group of people? Aren't you bigoted against misogynists, for example? By the way, word meanings do not always follow their etymological roots, Einstein.

I'm not bigoted against anyone. They can believe what they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. And don't turn this into a semantics argument. Because words get abused doesn't mean they are used properly.

People who don't support gay rights or any other form of equality are harming people. Maybe not directly but they are making a problem that harms people (emotionally and physically) much worse.

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And you interpret this book as being only about violence....correct?LJS9502_basic

What? No. What an enormously stupid thing to say.

Then wouldn't it be "enormously stupid" to declare the adherents of the Quran as following a vile book?

Er, no? Do you honestly think that 'being all about violence' is a necessary condition in order for a book to be vile?