Does God Hate G@ys??

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#201 Funky_Llama
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*thinks* is this as a result of something I have said at some point in the past?

Theokhoth

Uh-huh.:D But not just you.:D

Hmm... was that other person an atheist, or a Christian, or... other?

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#202 freshgman
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No. God doesn't hate sinners.Thiago26792

and gays are sinners according to the bible

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#203 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

*thinks* is this as a result of something I have said at some point in the past?

Funky_Llama

Uh-huh.:D But not just you.:D

Hmm... was that other person an atheist, or a Christian, or... other?

Person? I'm talking about hundreds of people.:D

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#204 Funky_Llama
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Im pretty sure god just hates everyone...DJ_Novakain

Damn right.

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#205 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Thiago26792"]No. God doesn't hate sinners.freshgman

and gays are sinners according to the bible

Actually being gay is not a sin.
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#206 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Thiago26792"]No. God doesn't hate sinners.freshgman

and gays are sinners according to the bible

Everyone is a sinner according to the Bible.

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#207 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

*thinks* is this as a result of something I have said at some point in the past?

Theokhoth

Uh-huh.:D But not just you.:D

Hmm... was that other person an atheist, or a Christian, or... other?

Person? I'm talking about hundreds of people.:D

Ooh... the plot thickens... what do those hundreds of people have in common?

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#208 foxhound_fox
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Yep, since homosexuality is as much of a choice as heterosexuality is then obviously God hates homosexuals. :|
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#209 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Im pretty sure god just hates everyone...Funky_Llama

Damn right.

That is one of the best websites I have ever seen.:lol:

"God hates EVERYONE except the Eastboro Baptists. This includes ***, black people, every other race except white people, fat people, unattractive people, cancer patients, children, babies, Mexicans, Swedes, Norwegians, Scandinavia in general, non-Americans, all other Americans except us, immigrants (illegal and legal), feminists, liberals, aborted fetus' (for they have committed the ultimate sin), the cognitively disabled, deaf people, blind people, scientists, Darwin, environmentalists, Al Gore, Jews, Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons, Muslims (except for the ones who hate the U.S.), Musselman's Applesauce, people who follow any religion other than our imaginative version of Christianity, citizens of whatever town we happen to be picketing in, victims of any tragedy that makes the national news and their family and friends, kittens, etc. --- You are all sinners in the eyes of the almighty God! "

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#210 DJ_Novakain
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Im pretty sure god just hates everyone...Funky_Llama

Damn right.

thats ****ing awesome :lol:

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#211 N-I-N
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[QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="mentalabc123"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

I find it upsetting that you refuse to acknowledge my question and instead keep throwing the word "NATURALISTIC FALLACY!" , in bold and caps lock no less, around like it is the be all end all of this debate.

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

Funky_Llama

Is this a joke, or are you really this stupid and ignorant? I don't see how homosexuality is dangerous to the human race's survival. Babies can still be produced (artificial insemination and the like). And anyways, that scenario would never happen, and homosexuality is in human nature.

Good for you.

Just dont act liek all "oh noes teh narrow mindedness" when there are hate crimes commited against gays, because people fear what they cannot identify with, and no amount of forum discussion or gay parades can ever change that.

With your every post, I come closer to deciding that eugenics isn't so bad after all.

hey hey why are you insulting me? aha i see, resort to insults when you have nothing else to say.

Worse than frikkin kids.

Either post something VALID that has logic behind it and not some post hippy equal rights for all living lifeforms rubbish.

Or you can continue with "bu bu N-I-N u r teh idiot lulz" until we all get bored.

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#212 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

*thinks* is this as a result of something I have said at some point in the past?

Funky_Llama

Uh-huh.:D But not just you.:D

Hmm... was that other person an atheist, or a Christian, or... other?

Person? I'm talking about hundreds of people.:D

Ooh... the plot thickens... what do those hundreds of people have in common?

Hmm, 'hundreds' is a relatively small quantity considering the world currently has six billion inhabitants.

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#213 LJS9502_basic
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Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?
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#214 Enosh88
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no, you tell me.

I know it's the testament before the coming of jesus, why it's in the bible? beacose some random people at nicea (I think that was the place) decided to put it in (well atleast some parts of it)

Theokhoth

The Old Testament began with the Old Covenant, which was a binding contract between God and humanity that was set in place when Abraham demonstrated his devotion by nearly sacrificing Isaac. With this Old Covenant came many rules to follow, such as sacrificing cattle to temporarily clear yourself of Original Sin. Among these many rules was the one about killing homosexuals.

Now, as you seem like a curious person, you wanna know why it's called the "Old" Covenant?:D

If you want to learn, then please keep your personal conjecture to yourself until the lesson is over.:)

yes thats all nice and interesting, but I don't understand why the new testament overrules the rules of the old one (the 10 commandments are from the old testament, yet christians still follow them (or atleat should :P)). Did god have a change of hearth about homosexuals in the 1000 or so years? And where does Sodom fit into this? It preaty clear that he didn't really like homosexuals if he destroyed a whole city beacose of them...

note: i don't hate homosexuals, I just want to know where exactly the bible fits into the whole thing, since I have heard both stories about how god loves everyone and about how god hates certain people and both can't be right.

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#215 DJ_Novakain
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Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?LJS9502_basic
Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...
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#216 Dark_Knight6
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LMFAO, were going around in circles.

You think im disgusting, and my views are illogical.

I think Your disgusting, and your views are illogical.

the question is; when will you open your eyes and see that people will always hate what is different? its not going to change. it still hasnt changed.

Years ago black people were acknoweldged as "inferior citizens" . now they are apparently on the same level as any race.

Still they are feared and hated by a VERY large percentage of the world.

THings dont change, get it in your head.

unfortunate but true.

N-I-N

I know people will always hate what they don't understand. I know there will always be people like you who will think that I'm not as good because of how I am. That doesn't make you or them right.

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#217 Skeleton--Man
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Does anyone here know "God" personally? No. How can we be know?Bloodbath_87

Guitar Hero told me i was a "God of Rock" does that count? ;)

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#218 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?DJ_Novakain
Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...

What do you mean? My first day here....>__>
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#219 Bourbons3
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Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?LJS9502_basic
At least it isn't as bad as SW.
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#220 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?DJ_Novakain
Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...

In all fairness, I think that question was rhetorical.

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#221 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="mentalabc123"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

I find it upsetting that you refuse to acknowledge my question and instead keep throwing the word "NATURALISTIC FALLACY!" , in bold and caps lock no less, around like it is the be all end all of this debate.

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

Is this a joke, or are you really this stupid and ignorant? I don't see how homosexuality is dangerous to the human race's survival. Babies can still be produced (artificial insemination and the like). And anyways, that scenario would never happen, and homosexuality is in human nature.

Good for you.

Just dont act liek all "oh noes teh narrow mindedness" when there are hate crimes commited against gays, because people fear what they cannot identify with, and no amount of forum discussion or gay parades can ever change that.

With your every post, I come closer to deciding that eugenics isn't so bad after all.

hey hey why are you insulting me? aha i see, resort to insults when you have nothing else to say.

Worse than frikkin kids.

Either post something VALID that has logic behind it and not some post hippy equal rights for all living lifeforms rubbish.

Or you can continue with "bu bu N-I-N u r teh idiot lulz" until we all get bored.

You haven't posted anything with "vaild logic" behind it yet you know.
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#222 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="mentalabc123"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

I find it upsetting that you refuse to acknowledge my question and instead keep throwing the word "NATURALISTIC FALLACY!" , in bold and caps lock no less, around like it is the be all end all of this debate.

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

Is this a joke, or are you really this stupid and ignorant? I don't see how homosexuality is dangerous to the human race's survival. Babies can still be produced (artificial insemination and the like). And anyways, that scenario would never happen, and homosexuality is in human nature.

Good for you.

Just dont act liek all "oh noes teh narrow mindedness" when there are hate crimes commited against gays, because people fear what they cannot identify with, and no amount of forum discussion or gay parades can ever change that.

With your every post, I come closer to deciding that eugenics isn't so bad after all.

hey hey why are you insulting me? aha i see, resort to insults when you have nothing else to say.

Worse than frikkin kids.

Either post something VALID that has logic behind it and not some post hippy equal rights for all living lifeforms rubbish.

Or you can continue with "bu bu N-I-N u r teh idiot lulz" until we all get bored.

Becuase you have it coming?

The bottom line is this: you have not given one piece of evidence that homosexuality is immoral. Can you do so? I doubt it.

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#223 DJ_Novakain
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="mentalabc123"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

I find it upsetting that you refuse to acknowledge my question and instead keep throwing the word "NATURALISTIC FALLACY!" , in bold and caps lock no less, around like it is the be all end all of this debate.

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

Is this a joke, or are you really this stupid and ignorant? I don't see how homosexuality is dangerous to the human race's survival. Babies can still be produced (artificial insemination and the like). And anyways, that scenario would never happen, and homosexuality is in human nature.

Good for you.

Just dont act liek all "oh noes teh narrow mindedness" when there are hate crimes commited against gays, because people fear what they cannot identify with, and no amount of forum discussion or gay parades can ever change that.

With your every post, I come closer to deciding that eugenics isn't so bad after all.

hey hey why are you insulting me? aha i see, resort to insults when you have nothing else to say.

Worse than frikkin kids.

Either post something VALID that has logic behind it and not some post hippy equal rights for all living lifeforms rubbish.

Or you can continue with "bu bu N-I-N u r teh idiot lulz" until we all get bored.

You haven't given any logical or valid reason as to why homo-sexuality is bad... :|
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?LJS9502_basic
Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...

What do you mean? My first day here....>__>

The LlamaTron 5000 calculates that you have over 43 posts per minute. :D

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#225 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"]Im pretty sure god just hates everyone...Theokhoth

Damn right.

That is one of the best websites I have ever seen.:lol:

"God hates EVERYONE except the Eastboro Baptists. This includes ***, black people, every other race except white people, fat people, unattractive people, cancer patients, children, babies, Mexicans, Swedes, Norwegians, Scandinavia in general, non-Americans, all other Americans except us, immigrants (illegal and legal), feminists, liberals, aborted fetus' (for they have committed the ultimate sin), the cognitively disabled, deaf people, blind people, scientists, Darwin, environmentalists, Al Gore, Jews, Catholics, Evangelicals, Mormons, Muslims (except for the ones who hate the U.S.), Musselman's Applesauce, people who follow any religion other than our imaginative version of Christianity, citizens of whatever town we happen to be picketing in, victims of any tragedy that makes the national news and their family and friends, kittens, etc. --- You are all sinners in the eyes of the almighty God! "

I particularly liked this:

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#226 StealthKing93
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God isn't real. Therefore, "he" cannot hate anyone.
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#227 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?MetalGear_Ninty

Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...

In all fairness, I think that question was rhetorical.

It was.....;)
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#228 LJS9502_basic
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God isn't real. Therefore, "he" cannot hate anyone.StealthKing93

And you have the absolute proof..

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#229 camarowu
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I don't believe in God but with all the horrible things that happen in the world everyday I doubt he would care where you stuck your penis Just my opinion.
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#230 N-I-N
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[QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

Funky_Llama

The fact that you would compare homosexuality to pedophilia is just disgusting. And if homosexuals cannot hold hands in public, then heterosexuals cannot either.

LMFAO, were going around in circles.

You think im disgusting, and my views are illogical.

I think Your disgusting, and your views are illogical.

the question is; when will you open your eyes and see that people will always hate what is different? its not going to change. it still hasnt changed.

Years ago black people were acknoweldged as "inferior citizens" . now they are apparently on the same level as any race.

Still they are feared and hated by a VERY large percentage of the world.

THings dont change, get it in your head.

unfortunate but true.

Yeah, but the difference is, you're wrong. You've consistently failed to prove that it's immoral. Your every comment is a big, steaming, fallacious pile of fail.

Difference is, your wrong BUT you THINK your right, which is sad, imo ofcourse.

I could just say, from what ive seen gays are tremendously annoying and I DO NOT LIKE THEM.

And God doesnt like them because God is cool. God doesnt like things that are a waste of oxygen upon his beloved planet. he certainly wouldnt want to see his little experiment run out of test subjects, so to speak.

Imagine God wakes up, "ahh what a lovely day it is on Ear... oh hey, hang on, where the hell is everybody?"

"sorry God they have all turned gay and over the last 2000 years managed to wipe themselves out!" says N-I-N

God : RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

the end.

yeah thats a perfectly logical philosophy.

God Hates Gays

deal with it or go away please :)

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#231 Funky_Llama
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God isn't real. Therefore, "he" cannot hate anyone.StealthKing93

I think we're assuming for the sake of argument that God exists.

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#232 Lockedge
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="mentalabc123"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

I find it upsetting that you refuse to acknowledge my question and instead keep throwing the word "NATURALISTIC FALLACY!" , in bold and caps lock no less, around like it is the be all end all of this debate.

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

Is this a joke, or are you really this stupid and ignorant? I don't see how homosexuality is dangerous to the human race's survival. Babies can still be produced (artificial insemination and the like). And anyways, that scenario would never happen, and homosexuality is in human nature.

Good for you.

Just dont act liek all "oh noes teh narrow mindedness" when there are hate crimes commited against gays, because people fear what they cannot identify with, and no amount of forum discussion or gay parades can ever change that.

With your every post, I come closer to deciding that eugenics isn't so bad after all.

hey hey why are you insulting me? aha i see, resort to insults when you have nothing else to say.

Worse than frikkin kids.

Either post something VALID that has logic behind it and not some post hippy equal rights for all living lifeforms rubbish.

Or you can continue with "bu bu N-I-N u r teh idiot lulz" until we all get bored.

So...you want someone to post something that doesn't talk about homosexuals being equal, or respected or whatnot. So basically, the only staements valid, according to you, are statements bashing homosexuals.

I know you advocate narrow-mindedness, but I ask you this: What if society in general accepts homosexuality with open arms, and stop treating it as something "different" and stop "fearing" it?

You can go off about how narrow-minded you are and how apparently that's the right thing to be, I don't care. You've said you live ina place that tends to look down on homosexuality, so just be content and live in that area so you won't have to deal with it.

In the end, no one has a right to tell someone else how to live. No one has the right to take life. Still, so many hate crimes continue against homosexuals and the LGBT community. When I go out at night I shouldn't have to worry about my odds of getting attacked for who I am.

But hey, because I'm not part of the majority, i guess you'd just chalk it up to people seeing me as different and fearing me, and putting the blame on me.

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oh and did i mention AIDS ?
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#234 LJS9502_basic
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Difference is, your wrong BUT you THINK your right, which is sad, imo ofcourse.

I could just say, from what ive seen gays are tremendously annoying and I DO NOT LIKE THEM.

And God doesnt like them because God is cool. God doesnt like things that are a waste of oxygen upon his beloved planet. he certainly wouldnt want to see his little experiment run out of test subjects, so to speak.

Imagine God wakes up, "ahh what a lovely day it is on Ear... oh hey, hang on, where the hell is everybody?"

"sorry God they have all turned gay and over the last 2000 years managed to wipe themselves out!" says N-I-N

God : RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

the end.

yeah thats a perfectly logical philosophy.

God Hates Gays

deal with it or go away please :)

N-I-N
Dude....God doesn't hate. And you don't "turn" gay A small percentage of the population is gay What they do in private isn't anything I worry about....nor should you.:|
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#235 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

[QUOTE="DJ_Novakain"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Is there no thread where disagreement isn't met with insult?LJS9502_basic

Cmon now, you've been on gs for a while now, amirite? You should know the answer to that question...

In all fairness, I think that question was rhetorical.

It was.....;)

*eyes response suspiciously*

...

*Returns to forum browsing quite confused*

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#236 Theokhoth
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yes thats all nice and interesting, but I don't understand why the new testament overrules the rules of the old one (the 10 commandments are from the old testament, yet christians still follow them (or atleat should :P)). Did god have a change of hearth about homosexuals in the 1000 or so years? And where does Sodom fit into this? It preaty clear that he didn't really like homosexuals if he destroyed a whole city beacose of them...

note: i don't hate homosexuals, I just want to know where exactly the bible fits into the whole thing, since I have heard both stories about how god loves everyone and about how god hates certain people and both can't be right.

Enosh88

We'll get to all that.;)

Now, the Old Covenant was Jewish Law. And it remained that way for thousands of years.

Then along came Jesus. The reason why He was crucified was because, according to the pharisees, He violated Jewish Law with His teachings.

With His death and Resurrection, the Old Covenant was ended and a New Covenant was made. This New Covenant is different than the Old in that it contains few rules compared to the Old Covenant (10 of these rules being the Ten Commandments), and the forgiveness of sins that was granted to people was permanent and for everyone, not just temporary or for Jews. The rules of the New Covenant are the teachings of Christ. In effect, Christ IS the New Covenant Himself.

Christians today are bound by the New Covenant, not the Old. Though they can choose to follow some rules of the Old Covenant, if they'd like, such as Passover.

OBVIOUS OBJECTION: Jesus Himself stated that he did not come to destroy the Law (being the Old Covenant) but to fulfill it. But remember when I said before that the Covenant was a contract? Contracts are fulfilled, not destroyed.;)

Now, about Sodom: The Old Covenant was a Covenant of Law, and it was a harsh one. Sodom was not destroyed just for their homosexual acts, but also for their horrible displays of charity toward Gods' messengers (they were huddled in a house and the Sodomites wanted them to come out to be raped.:|)

The reason why the Old Testament is a part of the Bible is to show the history of Earth, God and Israel, and to gather the significance of the presence of the New Covenant as contrasted with the Old.

Homosexual acts are still sins, and it's arguable as to whether or not homosexuality is as well. But the difference between now and Sodom is that these sins can be forgiven, rather than destroyed. >_>

Make any sense?

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Difference is, your wrong BUT you THINK your right, which is sad, imo ofcourse.

I could just say, from what ive seen gays are tremendously annoying and I DO NOT LIKE THEM.

And God doesnt like them because God is cool. God doesnt like things that are a waste of oxygen upon his beloved planet. he certainly wouldnt want to see his little experiment run out of test subjects, so to speak.

Imagine God wakes up, "ahh what a lovely day it is on Ear... oh hey, hang on, where the hell is everybody?"

"sorry God they have all turned gay and over the last 2000 years managed to wipe themselves out!" says N-I-N

God : RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

the end.

yeah thats a perfectly logical philosophy.

God Hates Gays

deal with it or go away please :)

N-I-N

If God created everyone and being a homosexual is not a choice, then, God created homosexuals. It wouldn't make very much sense for him to hate them.

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#238 MetalGear_Ninty
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oh and did i mention AIDS ?N-I-N

After 12 pages and you thought things couldn't get worse...

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#239 N-I-N
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In the end, no one has a right to tell someone else how to live. No one has the right to take life. Still, so many hate crimes continue against homosexuals and the LGBT community. When I go out at night I shouldn't have to worry about my odds of getting attacked for who I am.

But hey, because I'm not part of the majority, i guess you'd just chalk it up to people seeing me as different and fearing me, and putting the blame on me.

Sorry, thats what people do, its the SAD TRUTH, but it is one we must learn to ACCEPT. If the world wont change to accept you, and you have a problem with that, you must learn to change for the world.

seriously i never thought i would say that, but even i had to do that , just to be able to talk to other human beings.

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#240 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

The fact that you would compare homosexuality to pedophilia is just disgusting. And if homosexuals cannot hold hands in public, then heterosexuals cannot either.

LMFAO, were going around in circles.

You think im disgusting, and my views are illogical.

I think Your disgusting, and your views are illogical.

the question is; when will you open your eyes and see that people will always hate what is different? its not going to change. it still hasnt changed.

Years ago black people were acknoweldged as "inferior citizens" . now they are apparently on the same level as any race.

Still they are feared and hated by a VERY large percentage of the world.

THings dont change, get it in your head.

unfortunate but true.

Yeah, but the difference is, you're wrong. You've consistently failed to prove that it's immoral. Your every comment is a big, steaming, fallacious pile of fail.

Difference is, your wrong BUT you THINK your right, which is sad, imo ofcourse.

I could just say, from what ive seen gays are tremendously annoying and I DO NOT LIKE THEM.

And God doesnt like them because God is cool. God doesnt like things that are a waste of oxygen upon his beloved planet. he certainly wouldnt want to see his little experiment run out of test subjects, so to speak.

Imagine God wakes up, "ahh what a lovely day it is on Ear... oh hey, hang on, where the hell is everybody?"

"sorry God they have all turned gay and over the last 2000 years managed to wipe themselves out!" says N-I-N

God : RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

the end.

yeah thats a perfectly logical philosophy.

God Hates Gays

deal with it or go away please :)

"imo" being the keyword there. ;)

Ah, it's not about whether you find them annoying, it's about whether God hates them.

For a start, human extinction won't happen any time soon. If humanity were threatened, for all you know gays might start having sex with women to boost the population count. Besides which, thanks to genetics, homosexuals can have kids, so your argument's flawed anyway. Fail.

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oh and did i mention AIDS ?N-I-N

No, you didn't. And I can see why, it has no place in this thread. Don't even say it started with gay couples, no one knows the origin of AIDS.

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#242 LJS9502_basic
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Quote trees guys....thanks.
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#243 Funky_Llama
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In the end, no one has a right to tell someone else how to live. No one has the right to take life. Still, so many hate crimes continue against homosexuals and the LGBT community. When I go out at night I shouldn't have to worry about my odds of getting attacked for who I am.

But hey, because I'm not part of the majority, i guess you'd just chalk it up to people seeing me as different and fearing me, and putting the blame on me.

N-I-N

Sorry, thats what people do, its the SAD TRUTH, but it is one we must learn to ACCEPT. If the world wont change to accept you, and you have a problem with that, you must learn to change for the world.

seriously i never thought i would say that, but even i had to do that , just to be able to talk to other human beings.

Why must gays 'change' (which they can't) to accommodate the intolerence of people like you?

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#244 Theokhoth
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If God created everyone and being a homosexual is not a choice, then, God created homosexuals.

Dark_Knight6

That's a bit of a non-sequitur. If homosexuality is caused by hormones from the mother then it is more of a biological abnormality that occurred after the human's creation, so God didn't make them gay

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#245 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="N-I-N"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="N-I-N"]

So if i wanted to for example do something as odd and unnatural as raep your young children , then that would be OKAY? i dont think it would, but thats just me, i think it would be a tremendous disrespect to you and your family. Things that are percieved to be dangerous to our survival and to others around us are labelled as "wrong" or "bad", hell even junk food recieves BAD publicity.

Now i would love to see a world of pure anarchy where people run around doing whatever the hell they want, but i can safely say that i am in a minority that wants to see this happen, and until that happens, i will only consider the things that i enjoy right, and homosexuality isnt one of them, i think of it as an unnatural and unarousing sexual deviance, i do not like it, or want to see it. If sadomasochists can hold back on wearing their fetish gear to restaurants, then homosexuals can avoid holding hands in public.

N-I-N

The fact that you would compare homosexuality to pedophilia is just disgusting. And if homosexuals cannot hold hands in public, then heterosexuals cannot either.

LMFAO, were going around in circles.

You think im disgusting, and my views are illogical.

I think Your disgusting, and your views are illogical.

the question is; when will you open your eyes and see that people will always hate what is different? its not going to change. it still hasnt changed.

Years ago black people were acknoweldged as "inferior citizens" . now they are apparently on the same level as any race.

Still they are feared and hated by a VERY large percentage of the world.

THings dont change, get it in your head.

unfortunate but true.

Yeah, but the difference is, you're wrong. You've consistently failed to prove that it's immoral. Your every comment is a big, steaming, fallacious pile of fail.

Difference is, your wrong BUT you THINK your right, which is sad, imo ofcourse.

I could just say, from what ive seen gays are tremendously annoying and I DO NOT LIKE THEM.

And God doesnt like them because God is cool. God doesnt like things that are a waste of oxygen upon his beloved planet. he certainly wouldnt want to see his little experiment run out of test subjects, so to speak.

Imagine God wakes up, "ahh what a lovely day it is on Ear... oh hey, hang on, where the hell is everybody?"

"sorry God they have all turned gay and over the last 2000 years managed to wipe themselves out!" says N-I-N

God : RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

the end.

yeah thats a perfectly logical philosophy.

God Hates Gays

deal with it or go away please :)

You speak for God now do you? Oh wait, you don't, you're just using the old religion excuse to justify your own homophobia. Do you really think the human race, after all we've done in our lifetime so far, are stupid enough to "forget" to reproduce even if they feel no attraction to the opposite sex? Whats more, the whole world could never turn gay only about 9% of the race are gay and it's not liek it's contagious. Of course, you'll probably claim that next, seeing as you're on a downward spiral in terms of logic.
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#246 Dark_Knight6
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

If God created everyone and being a homosexual is not a choice, then, God created homosexuals.

Theokhoth

That's a bit of a non-sequitur. If homosexuality is caused by hormones from the mother then it is more of a biological abnormality that occurred after the human's creation, so God didn't make them gay

Oh, I didn't know we were looking at this scientifically.

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#247 Theokhoth
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it's not liek it's contagious. ithilgore2006

Oh, it's very contagious.

*Sneezes towards Funky*

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#248 Funky_Llama
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But the difference between now and Sodom is that these sins can be forgiven, rather than destroyed.

Theokhoth

Why? It's the same sin; surely it should have the same punishment.

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#249 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

If God created everyone and being a homosexual is not a choice, then, God created homosexuals.

Theokhoth

That's a bit of a non-sequitur. If homosexuality is caused by hormones from the mother then it is more of a biological abnormality that occurred after the human's creation, so God didn't make them gay

Yes but he's omnipotent and omniscient , he should have seen that coming, if it was a mistake he woul;d have fixed it by now.
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#250 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

If God created everyone and being a homosexual is not a choice, then, God created homosexuals.

Dark_Knight6

That's a bit of a non-sequitur. If homosexuality is caused by hormones from the mother then it is more of a biological abnormality that occurred after the human's creation, so God didn't make them gay

Oh, I didn't know we were looking at this scientifically.

Science is the study of nature. God created nature. Therefore. . . I'm looking at just one perspective instead of two.