[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]I care about L4D....I don't think anyone who is posting in here really cares about left for dead right now. It's just a title.
Jandurin
Than go post about it in General Games Discussion.
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[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]I care about L4D....I don't think anyone who is posting in here really cares about left for dead right now. It's just a title.
Jandurin
Than go post about it in General Games Discussion.
Anyway, a rhino has a horn, and a human has a plethora of tools, such as a hammer, to choose from.JandurinWe're supposed to be intelligent beings though. This seems to come and go when it suits.
you value the lives of animals over humans, yet you will eat themEating meats is understandable, because it's what we do. Beating animals for the fun of it, is not.
MOCHIRON_MAN
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Anyway, a rhino has a horn, and a human has a plethora of tools, such as a hammer, to choose from.SolidSnake35We're supposed to be intelligent beings though. This seems to come and go when it suits. since when did intelligence mean compassion
Aniaml abuse happens just as much as other crimes. Just beacause you dont hear about it dosent mean its not happeing.
[QUOTE="jamejame"]It's interesting how this has a much larger effect on me than seeing news of people beat to death daily. That's probably not very good lolishoturfaceactaully its prolly ok.. cuz cruel human deaths happen all the time but domestic animal cruelty deaths dont happen as often and and prolly cuz its a dog.. a pet something that has nothing against you while humans can
[QUOTE="jamejame"]It's interesting how this has a much larger effect on me than seeing news of people beat to death daily.Darth-CaedusSame here :? this is far from the truth
[QUOTE="jamejame"]It's interesting how this has a much larger effect on me than seeing news of people beat to death daily. That's probably not very good lolishoturfaceactaully its prolly ok.. cuz cruel human deaths happen all the time but domestic animal cruelty deaths dont happen as often and and prolly cuz its a dog.. a pet something that has nothing against you while humans can whats again thats not true. You dont hear it beacause ith ahappnes behind close doors. like your friends house.
The reason you dont see anything is that i wonder :roll: ... is beacause there no going to sumbit a picture of abeating dog into the news give me a break.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Anyway, a rhino has a horn, and a human has a plethora of tools, such as a hammer, to choose from.SolidSnake35We're supposed to be intelligent beings though. This seems to come and go when it suits.
Well, a Rhino has a horn yes, and humans have tools, but lets leave out the tools, and go with natural body parts. The physical elements. We have fists, and we have feet, we can kick, we can punch, or we can choke. depending on the size of the animal. But still, this is terribly wrong. Shame on that bastard.
Terrible...but let's keep in mind that it's a dog. Last time there was a thread about a dog being kicked by some soldiers all the compassionate animal lovers wanted the soldiers killed. FragStains
Sounds fair to me, just because it can't speak doesn't mean it should suffer.
[QUOTE="yucky_straw"] I value a dog's life way more than a person's life who is capable of doing this. The dog will probably never hurt anyone or anything through it's entire life. The person will probably do this to many more dogs or people. The dog lives. And the person is killed. The world is a better place. JandurinWolf-Avatar?
Dude, if that was the case there'd be like 50 of him in here...
We're supposed to be intelligent beings though. This seems to come and go when it suits.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]Anyway, a rhino has a horn, and a human has a plethora of tools, such as a hammer, to choose from.MOCHIRON_MAN
Well, a Rhino has a horn yes, and humans have tools, but lets leave out the tools, and go with natural body parts. The physical elements. We have fists, and we have feet, we can kick, we can punch, or we can choke. depending on the size of the animal. But still, this is terribly wrong. Shame on that bastard.
So, you bet on a naked Human vs a Rhino? Have you considered owning a bridge?Eating meats is understandable, because it's what we do. Beating animals for the fun of it, is not.
you value the lives of animals over humans, yet you will eat them animals eat other animles to live you're point makes no sense. we learn alot of plants and animals even before we startred t haunt...[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]you value the lives of animals over humans, yet you will eat them animals eat other animles to live you're point makes no sense. we learn alot of plants and animals even before we startred t haunt... What is that supposed to mean?Eating meats is understandable, because it's what we do. Beating animals for the fun of it, is not.
fbigent34
actaully its prolly ok.. cuz cruel human deaths happen all the time but domestic animal cruelty deaths dont happen as often and and prolly cuz its a dog.. a pet something that has nothing against you while humans can whats again thats not true. You dont hear it beacause ith ahappnes behind close doors. like your friends house.Aniaml abuse happens just as much as other crimes. Just beacause you dont hear about it dosent mean its not happeing.
[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="jamejame"] this is far from the truth
[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="jamejame"]It's interesting how this has a much larger effect on me than seeing news of people beat to death daily. That's probably not very good lolfbigent34
The reason you dont see anything is that i wonder :roll: ... is beacause there no going to sumbit a picture of abeating dog into the news give me a break.
The only time you can suspect animal cruelty, is when the animal cowars away from the person. but it may not be animal cruelty. It's hard to spot animal cruelty, but when someone finds it, that person responsible, is really chewed out, and he/she deserves it.
[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] you value the lives of animals over humans, yet you will eat themloco145animals eat other animles to live you're point makes no sense. we learn alot of plants and animals even before we startred t haunt... What is that supposed to mean? That animals eat other animals... and that to surrive we are used to eating animals. but not use to see animal abuse in the news. It happens daily. I bet you right now someone is kicking there dog. or abusing a cat horse etc...
eat other animles to live you're point makes no sense. we learn alot of plants and animals even before we startred t haunt... fbigent34cruelty, friend, is much more apparent in slaughterhouses than parks where dogs survive being beaten by hammers graphic material within (verbal graphic, not visual) http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/55448 only read the spoiler if you're comfortable eating steaks and burgers regardless of truth :o [spoiler] Animals are received by truck or rail from a ranch, farm, or feedlot. Animals are herded into holding pens (see Judas goat). Animals receive a preslaughter inspection. Animals are rendered insensible (unconscious) by stunning (method varies) Animals are hung by hind legs on processing line. A main artery is cut, the animal's blood drains out and it dies. said "The chain goes too fast, more than 300 cows an hour. ... If I can't get the animal knocked right, it keeps going. ... The chain doesn't stop. It keeps running." "In a horrifying admission, the employee goes on to say, "I estimate that 30 percent of the cows are not properly knocked [stunned with the electric prod] and get to the first legger alive. ..." [/spoiler]
actaully its prolly ok.. cuz cruel human deaths happen all the time but domestic animal cruelty deaths dont happen as often and and prolly cuz its a dog.. a pet something that has nothing against you while humans can whats again thats not true. You dont hear it beacause ith ahappnes behind close doors. like your friends house.Aniaml abuse happens just as much as other crimes. Just beacause you dont hear about it dosent mean its not happeing.
[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="jamejame"] this is far from the truth
[QUOTE="ishoturface"][QUOTE="jamejame"]It's interesting how this has a much larger effect on me than seeing news of people beat to death daily. That's probably not very good lolfbigent34
The reason you dont see anything is that i wonder :roll: ... is beacause there no going to sumbit a picture of abeating dog into the news give me a break.
Why humans will eat meats of other animals, is completely natural. Ever hear of a little thing called The Food Chain? Of course slaughtering a cow may be wrong in the first place, but it is what we do. Beating animals for the fun of it should not be what we do.
since when did intelligence mean compassionJandurinOkay, I'll just reword and say we're supposed to be rational.
[QUOTE="fbigent34"]whats again thats not true. You dont hear it beacause ith ahappnes behind close doors. like your friends house.Aniaml abuse happens just as much as other crimes. Just beacause you dont hear about it dosent mean its not happeing.
[QUOTE="ishoturface"]actaully its prolly ok.. cuz cruel human deaths happen all the time but domestic animal cruelty deaths dont happen as often and and prolly cuz its a dog.. a pet something that has nothing against you while humans canMOCHIRON_MAN
The reason you dont see anything is that i wonder :roll: ... is beacause there no going to sumbit a picture of abeating dog into the news give me a break.
The only time you can suspect animal cruelty, is when the animal cowars away from the person. but it may not be animal cruelty. It's hard to spot animal cruelty, but when someone finds it, that person responsible, is really chewed out, and he/she deserves it.
No just beacause a dog cowars away from someone dosent mean its abuse. The dog could of been abuse and shy to go and trust people. the fact that get wintess to try to come forwardnote: dog also forgive there owner
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]since when did intelligence mean compassionSolidSnake35Okay, I'll just reword and say we're supposed to be rational. Hah. That's even more silly than compassionate.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]since when did intelligence mean compassionJandurinOkay, I'll just reword and say we're supposed to be rational. Hah. That's even more silly than compassionate. If we're rational, which we seem to be, then compassion should follow.
[QUOTE="fbigent34"]eat other animles to live you're point makes no sense. we learn alot of plants and animals even before we startred t haunt... Jandurincruelty, friend, is much more apparent in slaughterhouses than parks where dogs survive being beaten by hammers graphic material within (verbal graphic, not visual) http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/55448 only read the spoiler if you're comfortable eating steaks and burgers regardless of truth :o [spoiler] Animals are received by truck or rail from a ranch, farm, or feedlot. Animals are herded into holding pens (see Judas goat). Animals receive a preslaughter inspection. Animals are rendered insensible (unconscious) by stunning (method varies) Animals are hung by hind legs on processing line. A main artery is cut, the animal's blood drains out and it dies. said "The chain goes too fast, more than 300 cows an hour. ... If I can't get the animal knocked right, it keeps going. ... The chain doesn't stop. It keeps running." "In a horrifying admission, the employee goes on to say, "I estimate that 30 percent of the cows are not properly knocked [stunned with the electric prod] and get to the first legger alive. ..." [/spoiler] yes they killed for food not abusing and left for dead two totally diffrent things. well in my eyes :P
If we're rational, which we seem to be, then compassion should follow.SolidSnake35You read news stories like this and you think "we seem to be rational"?
How about this. Man's best friend with man, goes to a park. one hour later, man leaves. Man's best friend is on the ground struggling to stay alive.
you see, what ever happened to the line a dog is a man's best friend? To me, it starting to look like, A man, is a dog's worst nightmare.
[QUOTE="loco145"]Lets be rational. We can use all the food we waste on feeding dogs, and the dog themselves, to feed the starving children. Hand me a hammer. fbigent34or we could kil humans and feed them as well :roll: Nah. That'll make the kids sick.
How about this. Man's best friend with man, goes to a park. one hour later, man leaves. Man's best friend is on the ground struggling to stay alive.
you see, what ever happened to the line a dog is a man's best friend? To me, it starting to look like, A man, is a dog's worst nightmare.
Yeah. I agree. Based on this story, we shouldn't keep dogs as pets, because sometimes unfortunate things happen to them.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]If we're rational, which we seem to be, then compassion should follow.JandurinYou read news stories like this and you think "we seem to be rational"? I think humanity is stupid. But all I ever hear is how humanity is superior and that we should be allowed to have our way with animals quite simply because we can. If we're so great, we should exercise a little compassion as you put it.
I think humanity is stupid. But all I ever hear is how humanity is superior and that we should be allowed to have our way with animals quite simply because we can. SolidSnake35Yah, pretty much.
If we're so great, we should exercise a little compassion as you put it.SolidSnake35Why?
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]If we're rational, which we seem to be, then compassion should follow.SolidSnake35You read news stories like this and you think "we seem to be rational"? I think humanity is stupid. But all I ever hear is how humanity is superior and that we should be allowed to have our way with animals quite simply because we can. If we're so great, we should exercise a little compassion as you put it.
You took the words right out of my mouth. I hate humanity. They act so superior to everything else. but truely, humanity isn't. Humanity only got to that level by cheating, with weapons. all the little and big creatures have to use what's natural. I hate humans.
I just dont understand how people can reply with "Its just a dog".......it is a living being that deserves to be treated just as good as a human. I don't get this whole "Humans deserve better treatment" crap.....Dogs are just as loving and caring as humans, and even with the case of crazy, unsafe dogs.....there just happens to be some pretty crazy and unsafe humans. No human would ever deserve this, and no dog, cat, or any other animal deserves this either.x6sh0tOcelot
This is what it is all about, he has the right answer to this. I second this.
[QUOTE="loco145"] If we're so great, we should exercise a little compassion as you put it.SolidSnake35Why? To not do so would be irrational. Might as well go back to living in caves if that's how far humanity has come.
[QUOTE="x6sh0tOcelot"]I just dont understand how people can reply with "Its just a dog".......it is a living being that deserves to be treated just as good as a human. I don't get this whole "Humans deserve better treatment" crap.....Dogs are just as loving and caring as humans, and even with the case of crazy, unsafe dogs.....there just happens to be some pretty crazy and unsafe humans. No human would ever deserve this, and no dog, cat, or any other animal deserves this either.MOCHIRON_MAN
This is what it is all about, he has the right answer to this. I second this.
This is the only part i disagree with here. that Dogsare way more loving to humans even after being beating up or abuse. they forgive there owner.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="loco145"] If we're so great, we should exercise a little compassion as you put it.SolidSnake35Why? To not do so would be irrational. Might as well go back to living in caves if that's how far humanity has come.Again, why? I don't think that the cavemen exercised much companion either ;) . We have hammers and guns, the dogs don't. It isn't our fault that the dogs don't have the brains to defend themselves.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] Why?loco145To not do so would be irrational. Might as well go back to living in caves if that's how far humanity has come.Again, why? I don't think that the cavemen exercised much companion either ;) They didn't but at least they didn't try to claim superiority either.
You people only care because it's a "pet".JandurinThat is not true, at all. At least for me. I don't believe any animal deserves this. If this guy beat the crap out of an elephant with a sledgehammer.......I would be just as mad. Terrible example, but an example none the less. And you know, if this guy was defending himself from this dog because maybe the dog was attacking him, I can accept what he did. But from what has been reported, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Ya, dogs don't kill :roll:[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"] I value a dog's life way more than a person's life who is capable of doing this. The dog will probably never hurt anyone or anything through it's entire life. The person will probably do this to many more dogs or people. The dog lives. And the person is killed. The world is a better place. MOCHIRON_MAN
I value an animal's life over a humans life anyday, because thes creatures known as humans, have the technology to kill without remorse. Animals do not, but animals that have the physical elements to kill say like the Rhino, it has a horn, or the Crocodile, with its jaws, those are natural things for these animals to do. it's their instinct. But Humans, they value not the lives of animals, if they so do wish to beat them, they just value their own lives. This is directed at those people who would hit an animal for the fun of it. The life on an animal is more important than the life of a human, because they [except what they have to defend themselves] are defenseless creatures that are part of our natural world. And here we are with a true story of an animal that was brutally attacked by some bastard with a hammer.
It's shameful. This person to even think about doing something like that, shameful.
exactly!But from what has been reported, that doesn't seem to be the case.x6sh0tOcelotthe report is written in a way that automatically asks for sympathy from the reader We honestly don't know anything. It could very well be a dog they will have to put down anyway.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"]You people only care because it's a "pet".x6sh0tOcelotThat is not true, at all. At least for me. I don't believe any animal deserves this. If this guy beat the crap out of an elephant with a sledgehammer.......I would be just as mad. Terrible example, but an example none the less. And you know, if this guy was defending himself from this dog because maybe the dog was attacking him, I can accept what he did. But from what has been reported, that doesn't seem to be the case. No one derseve this treamenet... no matter who it is or what it is.
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