Dog beaten with hammer, left for dead.

So Technically speaking, I have violated no rules of the forums. Care to try again?

MOCHIRON_MAN

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"]Anyone who can type and use a computer can not be this stupid. You honestly can not believe what you just wrote. Jandurin

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

So Technically speaking, I have violated no rules of the forums. Care to try again?

Jandurin

Oh ho! But I do know What I'm talking about. But can we please get back on track??

[QUOTE="FragStains"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

But, can you be moderated even though you actually did report him for a valid reason?

MOCHIRON_MAN

You have no idea how much I hate trolling, I had to resort to this to try and getthe other guys to stop. But can we get back to the subject?

Yes. That dogs can elicit the same amount of sympathy from an abusive person as a human that is using spoken 'language'. yucky_straw

You have no idea how much I hate trolling, I had to resort to this to try and getthe other guys to stop. But can we get back to the subject?

MOCHIRON_MAN

What exactly is the topic? It's not discussion of opinions because you've already said that you would report anyone who tries to disagree/argue with you. If not that, what would 'getting back to the subject' be?

Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...abdelmessih101

This is the kind of crap that just puts me over the edge and makes me absolutely livid. I cannot stand animal abuse. It makes me sick.

I see animal abuse as similar to child abuse because in both events, the victims are nearly equally harmless and defenseless. It's not fair to attack a baby or an animal who simply wants your love. I'm not saying it's fair to attack a child or a person who can defend themselves, but they at least COULD have the upper hand, whereas a baby or a dog/cat/any other pet has less of a chance of defending themselves.

Animal abuse has always been an issue that I care strongly about. Ever since I was a little kid, I had very strong, well-formed opinions on the matter because I did the research and read up on it.

I hate reading stories like this. It makes me so irrationally angry. I am not a violent person at all, but stories like this make me want to go beat the crap out of the abuser.

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

What exactly is the topic? It's not discussion of opinions because you've already said that you would report anyone who tries to disagree/argue with you. If not that, what would 'getting back to the subject' be?

LittleHands134

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...yucky_straw

I hate reading stories like this. It makes me so irrationally angry. I am not a violent person at all, but stories like this make me want to go beat the crap out of the abuser.

t3hrubikscube

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"]Yes. That dogs can elicit the same amount of sympathy from an abusive person as a human that is using spoken 'language'. Jandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"]Yes. That dogs can elicit the same amount of sympathy from an abusive person as a human that is using spoken 'language'. yucky_straw

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...yucky_straw

I hate reading stories like this. It makes me so irrationally angry. I am not a violent person at all, but stories like this make me want to go beat the crap out of the abuser.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]

I hate reading stories like this. It makes me so irrationally angry. I am not a violent person at all, but stories like this make me want to go beat the crap out of the abuser.

yucky_straw

The "Other guy" Who is this "Other guy"? I'm guessing it is me, but I could care less, I'm just trying to make our little friends who think this is a joke to stop, becasue I'm about to say, What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...abdelmessih101

The "Other guy" Who is this "Other guy"? I'm guessing it is me, but I could care less, I'm just trying to make our little friends who think this is a joke to stop, becasue I'm about to say, What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

MOCHIRON_MAN

What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

MOCHIRON_MAN

Why would it change anything? An opinion based on strong emotions (how someone would feel if this happened to their dog) is very biased.

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

LittleHands134

Why would it change anything? An opinion based on strong emotions (how someone would feel if this happened to their dog) is very biased.

[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

clembo1990

Why would it change anything? An opinion based on strong emotions (how someone would feel if this happened to their dog) is very biased.

But there is still no room to make jokes about something like this. Can you not understand that? Please stop making jokes here. If you want to make jokes about, make another topic that is devoted to it, or just blog it. This is not the time for that kind of thing.

Just a dog, I figure most of you are probably saying, "So unbelievably horrible, it's just a dog, that man deserved to be beaten to death with the hammer", bla bla bla. Sorry but I don't understand your extreme compassion for animals..and why this topic is popular.Solid_Snake325

[QUOTE="fbigent34"][QUOTE="Viking_1298"]Personally I'll only kill a dog if that dog is trying to kill me or someone else. Dogs are dogs but to choose an animal's life over a human life would make you a very evil and heartless person.NoSpeakyEnglish

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"]This is not really a proper thread to make jokes in.Jandurin

Its not a diffrent matter i think no matter what there shouldn't of been anyjokes in any threads of abuse, sexcual assulsted raped, murder or sudicdal etc... its wrong but that not going to stop people from being jerks.

Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...abdelmessih101

How is this any better being a animal? animal cannot defened itself or speak what happen unlike humans who can get help.

there a huge diffrence. aniaml is in a weak senrio not of its right

It is just a dog... Yet as we speak people are dying all around us. halo3-player

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"] I couldn't disagree more. yucky_straw

[QUOTE="LittleHands134"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

What if this dog was yours? Yes. I just went there. Think about that, The next time you post something that you think is funny into this thread.

clembo1990

Why would it change anything? An opinion based on strong emotions (how someone would feel if this happened to their dog) is very biased.

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] Yeah, because dogs have feeling and people don't, right? Or maybe people deserve to be abused more than dogs? Or is it because dogs "can't defend themselves" and people can?abdelmessih101

An animal that can't be traumatized? No. Animals can be Traumatized. you need to learn more about animals I suspect.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...fbigent34

How is this any better being a animal? animal cannot defened itself or speak what happen unlike humans who can get help.

there a huge diffrence. aniaml is in a weak senrio not of its right

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"] Because if it were a person then maybe they deserved it? And by that I mean maybe they did something w/ a malicious or evil intention of hurting someone that was innocent. You can argue that maybe the dog hurt someone that was innocent but when animals act violently it is out of natural instinct. Their instincts are all that they know. A person can lie, steal, cheat, murder, rape, and hate. Which are all acts of malice. No dog deserves to be beaten with a hammer no matter what they do. I can't say the same about a human. MOCHIRON_MAN

An animal that can't be traumatized? No. Animals can be Traumatized. you need to learn more about animals I suspect.

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] Yeah, because dogs have feeling and people don't, right? Or maybe people deserve to be abused more than dogs? Or is it because dogs "can't defend themselves" and people can?abdelmessih101

[QUOTE="fbigent34"] [QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...abdelmessih101

How is this any better being a animal? animal cannot defened itself or speak what happen unlike humans who can get help.

there a huge diffrence. aniaml is in a weak senrio not of its right

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

[QUOTE="fbigent34"] [QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]Not saying I condone this, but better an animal than a human being...abdelmessih101

How is this any better being a animal? animal cannot defened itself or speak what happen unlike humans who can get help.

there a huge diffrence. aniaml is in a weak senrio not of its right

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="yucky_straw"] Because if it were a person then maybe they deserved it? And by that I mean maybe they did something w/ a malicious or evil intention of hurting someone that was innocent. You can argue that maybe the dog hurt someone that was innocent but when animals act violently it is out of natural instinct. Their instincts are all that they know. A person can lie, steal, cheat, murder, rape, and hate. Which are all acts of malice. No dog deserves to be beaten with a hammer no matter what they do. I can't say the same about a human. yucky_straw

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] Exactly my point - instincts are all they know, so what does it matter - they have no feeling. Again, not saying I condone violence at all, but I'll stand by my point that I'd rather this on an animal that can't be traumatized than a human who can. Humans > animals regardless of circumstance.abdelmessih101

An animal that can't be traumatized? No. Animals can be Traumatized. you need to learn more about animals I suspect.

Ohhh, ok, And yah this is true that a dog can be helped much easier when it is traumatized. excessive time with it, and just staying with it can really make a difference. I mean dogs are people too, just in a different form. but they deserve equal to humans, and in some cases, better.

How is this any better being a animal? animal cannot defened itself or speak what happen unlike humans who can get help.

there a huge diffrence. aniaml is in a weak senrio not of its right

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

[QUOTE="yucky_straw"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] Yeah, because dogs have feeling and people don't, right? Or maybe people deserve to be abused more than dogs? Or is it because dogs "can't defend themselves" and people can?abdelmessih101

abdelmessih101 is right, though you cannot tell, you have to understand what he is saying, and I do, he is right.

I mean dogs are people too, just in a different form. but they deserve equal to humans, and in some cases, better. MOCHIRON_MAN

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

abdelmessih101

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

i pick humans they deserve it animals don't

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

An animal that can't be traumatized? No. Animals can be Traumatized. you need to learn more about animals I suspect.

MOCHIRON_MAN

Ohhh, ok, And yah this is true that a dog can be helped much easier when it is traumatized. excessive time with it, and just staying with it can really make a difference. I mean dogs are people too, just in a different form. but they deserve equal to humans, and in some cases, better.

I disagree 100% - when it comes to humans vs animals, I would pick humans every time. I'm not saying we should be able to treat animals however we want, but I'd sacrifice an animal life for a human life every time. And I would sacrifice an animal's comfort for a human's comfort every time.

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"]

So you would rather see a human abused like this instead of a dog? Again, I don't condone violence at all - I'm just putting it in perspective.

And last time I checked, dogs can run faster than most people.

abdelmessih101

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

To answer your question, [ This will be a shocker ] I would rather see the human suffer. Why? Because humans have dished out the most pain of all the creatures that we can physically see on this planet. most of which the pain is toward other humans, in the form of wars, bloody disputes, and other means, And they have inflicted the most pain against animals as well. Compared to inflictions of pain borught on by humans, attacks from animals, is almost nothing.

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"][QUOTE="abdelmessih101"] Oh, I didn't mean it like that. I mean that it's much easier to help a dog with trauma than a person.abdelmessih101

Ohhh, ok, And yah this is true that a dog can be helped much easier when it is traumatized. excessive time with it, and just staying with it can really make a difference. I mean dogs are people too, just in a different form. but they deserve equal to humans, and in some cases, better.

I disagree 100% - when it comes to humans vs animals, I would pick humans every time. I'm not saying we should be able to treat animals however we want, but I'd sacrifice an animal life for a human life every time. And I would sacrifice an animal's comfort for a human's comfort every time.

In the end, Animals deserve better than this.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

tony2077ca

i pick humans they deserve it animals don't

[QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"] I mean dogs are people too, just in a different form. but they deserve equal to humans, and in some cases, better. LittleHands134

Could I eat a dog if I wanted to? If not, would the same equality also apply to cows, chicken, and pigs?

Of course you can eat a dog if you wanted to, China does it, so why can't you? Of course there's laws keeping you from doing this, but what simple law will stop you from eating it? I find it disgusting that people would do it, but they do. So if you want to, Then fly at it. Because I am not going to stop you.

[QUOTE="abdelmessih101"][QUOTE="MOCHIRON_MAN"]

Yah well eve though a dog can run faster, it will eventually think that the attacker won't give up, then just stop running and give in. Besides, why should a dog have to run when the subject person does not absolutely need to attack it?

MOCHIRON_MAN

To answer your question, [ This will be a shocker ] I would rather see the human suffer. Why? Because humans have dished out the most pain of all the creatures that we can physically see on this planet. most of which the pain is toward other humans, in the form of wars, bloody disputes, and other means, And they have inflicted the most pain against animals as well. Compared to inflictions of pain borught on by humans, attacks from animals, is almost nothing.