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the man will not gain the nomination, let alone the white house
my suggestion: just enjoy the show while it lasts
And the show just keeps getting more and more interesting
The nomination isn't entirely out of reach at this point. Most power rankings I've seen have him seeded third behind Cruz and Rubio. It seems like much of the race is in flux, but his support has been very sticky, both in terms of floor and ceiling.
@Master_Live:
Isn't that just the same as that Democrats saying they need to put the refugee on hold until the government figure out what's going on?
@Master_Live:
Correction. Trumps immigration freeze has a deadline, which is the time government figured out what's going on.
The Democrats refugee freeze doesn't appears to have any deadline, which can be forever.
The "refugee freeze" is a Republican idea that overwhelmingly supported by House Republicans and 47 Democrats (in the House). And what does exactly Trumps means by figuring out what's "going on"? Way too vague.
Interesting how every time ISIS launches any kind of attack more people decide that maybe Trump is right and every time Trump lets lose with his "straight talk" ISIS gets another free recruiting video by just showing his latest diatribe. We should pause and consider things when psychopaths and narcissists are getting all the press coverage.
Can he come to UK for prim minister?
Well, from my understanding, Nigel Farage appears to see eye-to-eye with Trump.
@nintendoboy16:
Trump will have excellent allies in Farage and Le Pen when he takes the fight to the Islamic State and their multi-billion dollar petro funded terrorist organization. Putin can ride in the side car while the west takes point vanquishing evil like we have done so many times in the past. Onward to victory!
Wait a minute. What?
Trump is definitely a fascist that is all for nationalism.
Whether that is a good or a bad thing, who knows. We've never actually tried it. Japan keeps their kind close and no one calls them out for it. I do think we need better regulations for refugees and put them into cities that aren't suffering economically. Don't shove them in the ghetto.
Nobody has called out Japan for their people's xenophobia? That is a load, considering what I've been reading in the Mos Eisley of GS forums.
the man will not gain the nomination, let alone the white house
my suggestion: just enjoy the show while it lasts
And the show just keeps getting more and more interesting
The nomination isn't entirely out of reach at this point. Most power rankings I've seen have him seeded third behind Cruz and Rubio. It seems like much of the race is in flux, but his support has been very sticky, both in terms of floor and ceiling.
if the stickyness of voters to trump is to be believed, that is a bad sign for the GOP in the event that trump is not the chosen candidate.. trump certainly seems the type that would embark on an independent run which would mostly hurt the official GOP nomination.
Why do you think every jacka$$ politician with a microphone represents America? And then connect an idiot statement to the entire legacy of the U.S.? There's nothing poetic about a [now] public racist and bigot gaining votes. This is America after all. Want to find a racist here...throw a rock. He will not get into the White House but I must say how I am surprises that his candidacy continues to gain steam the more ludicrous his views become.
Except Trump isn't your everyday racist yokel or white supremacist; he's a filthy rich man - and we all know how American politics consecrates money - and a prominent public figure who's leading the Republican primaries on a purely racist platform. Only if it was a fringe candidate spouting such venom to pander to his narrow base would it have been due to give the U.S the benefit of the doubt and observe prudence in passing judgement. Furthermore, if you combine the bases of the top 3 Republican candidates, Trump, Carson, and Cruz, who share the same apocalyptic views on Muslims, you'll more or less end up with the entire Republican base, which constitutes half the U.S's population.
But Muslim-hatred in the U.S doesn't stop there, as it isn't an exclusively Republican prejudice. If you take into account the liberal bases of the likes of Sam Harris and Bill Maher, then you'll end up with a significant majority of Islamophobes in the U.S, something that a 2014 Pew research demonstrated when it found that Muslims are the mot negatively perceived religious group in the U.S - even lower than atheists.
If you can't see poetic justice in the success of an election campaign that's aggrandizing an ominous tyrant by utilizing the kind of demagoguery that capitalizes on prejudices and fears the U.S either concocted or popularized, we'll have to disagree on what constitutes poetic justice. Just like we'll have to disagree on Trump's ability to make it to the White House.
Muslims created that perception themselves by not taking out their trash.
It isn't easy to take out your trash when it has a superpower as both its beneficiary and benefactor. But by all means, stick your head farther in the sand and continue relishing the same threadbare prejudices; it's your funeral. Anyone with a pea-sized brain realizes that Trump is calamitous for the U.S and that if it wasn't for his aptitude at exploiting such threadbare prejudices, his campaign would've never taken off, let alone soared thus high.
That isn't to say that the Middle East and the Muslim world haven't payed a hefty price; but I assure you that it won't be us who will cash the ultimate check.
Also, a lot of the backlash Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Also, a lot of the backlash Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Also, a lot of the backlash Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Reading comprehension not your strong point? He said one of the most educated minorities. Not the most educated (that would be the Jews).
And he would be correct about that as well.
The percentage of U.S. Muslims in individual income and education brackets tracks closely to that of the rest of the U.S. population, surveys suggest. According to a 2009 Gallup poll, U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the United States. Almost 50 percent of Muslims identify with religion before their U.S. identity (nearly half of U.S. Christians polled by Gallup also identified with their religion first). That percentage is significantly higher than percentages of Muslims recognizing national identity first in Europe and in many Muslim nations, according to Pew polls.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html?sr=twcnni120815muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception1015AMVODtopLink&linkId=19402214
Forty percent of Muslims say they have a college degree, making them the second most highly educated religious group surveyed after Jews (61 percent), compared with 29 percent of Americans overall who say they have a college degree, according to Gallup [PDF]. That carries across gender lines, with Muslim females being the second-most educated religious group in the country, after Jewish females.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/america-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/#readings
Of course, one could ask what degrees they do have. But nonetheless, from the statistics they do have... were rather surprising.
Also, a lot of the backlash Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Reading comprehension not your strong point? He said one of the most educated minorities. Not the most educated (that would be the Jews).
And he would be correct about that as well.
The percentage of U.S. Muslims in individual income and education brackets tracks closely to that of the rest of the U.S. population, surveys suggest. According to a 2009 Gallup poll, U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the United States. Almost 50 percent of Muslims identify with religion before their U.S. identity (nearly half of U.S. Christians polled by Gallup also identified with their religion first). That percentage is significantly higher than percentages of Muslims recognizing national identity first in Europe and in many Muslim nations, according to Pew polls.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html?sr=twcnni120815muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception1015AMVODtopLink&linkId=19402214
Forty percent of Muslims say they have a college degree, making them the second most highly educated religious group surveyed after Jews (61 percent), compared with 29 percent of Americans overall who say they have a college degree, according to Gallup [PDF]. That carries across gender lines, with Muslim females being the second-most educated religious group in the country, after Jewish females.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/america-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/#readings
Of course, one could ask what degrees they do have. But nonetheless, from the statistics they do have... were rather surprising.
He isn't actually right on that....
I Agree with Donald Trump. Ban All the Muslims. pic.twitter.com/NsCoOeLfif
— عُمر (@OmarImranTweets) December 9, 2015
if the stickyness of voters to trump is to be believed, that is a bad sign for the GOP in the event that trump is not the chosen candidate.. trump certainly seems the type that would embark on an independent run which would mostly hurt the official GOP nomination.
I'm becoming more and more convinced of the idea as time goes on and I hear more of his supporters talk about him. And it's not in spite of his proposals, but because of them.
He's going to get Hilary elected and single handedly destroy the gop chances of an election win even after two mediocre at best terms by the current President. Rubio/Cruz/Paul seem like the three most logical candidates. Carson is probably the smartest but he is horrible at debates and clearly out of his element right now.
As long as candidates like Huckabee and Cristie continue to take away votes from the pool.... it only increases the chance this man gets the approval of GOP voters.
I'd consider voting for Rubio or Cruz over Clinton but Trump is for sure a vote for Clinton for me
i'm still confused on the mechanics of a would-be ban. how do you test for religion? what if a person is non-religious? are they banned because they have a beard and are from a predominately muslim country?
Also, a lot of the backlash Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
lol
It's amazing that in spite of such statements, Trump's poll numbers continue to rise. Many news outlets cite this as tapping effectively into the fears of the American population, but one can wonder if it really as simple as that.
It's amazing that in spite of such statements, Trump's poll numbers continue to rise. Many news outlets cite this as tapping effectively into the fears of the American population, but one can wonder if it really as simple as that.
He has resources and connections at hand and he is making most noises and getting most heard even if for wrong reasons. If you ever get a chance to stand in room with Trump, you will realize that as idiotic some of his statements are, he makes them with such utter confidence that you wouldn't help wondering whether he is right or not and whether he would bring some change or not. Compared to him 14 of other GOP noms look so lackluster and some even so scripted by focus group that each people people see them they think they are politicians and not humans. On other hand when you see characters like Trump or Sanders deviate from the scripted political line, it just makes people think it will be different this time. Anyway some of the best theatrics at work here and really damn enjoyable.
It's amazing that in spite of such statements, Trump's poll numbers continue to rise. Many news outlets cite this as tapping effectively into the fears of the American population, but one can wonder if it really as simple as that.
I see neither amazement nor perversity in it, for the poll numbers are the orchestration of a man who's apt at exploiting prejudiced and marginalized masses that have been rightfully denied a platform for decades, thus enfranchising society's muck.
A prerequisite for accepting the fear account of the current reality is the presence of an apocalyptic fear that's consternating the population into lining up behind a man they'd otherwise wholly repudiate. But there's no such fear lingering in the U.S. If you look at the crowds of a Trump rally, only fear's absence is conspicuous, along with the prejudice, ignorance, and vulgarity of filth that's been festering for years while the polity was fixated on the wrong demographic, and inexplicably, the wrong hinterlands.
Also, a lot of the backlash Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
lol
Are you a fan of ineptitude indz?
So much irony in the bold part and the response my reply elicited.
@Maroxad: Here are the more recent findings of a 2015 Pew research on America's religious landscape and its socioeconomic trends:
"The Pew report shows that 59 percent of American Jews have college degrees, compared with 39 percent of Muslims – still much higher than the 27 percent among Americans overall. In addition, 31 percent of American Jews have post-graduate degrees, as compared with 17 percent of American Muslim. Hindus top the list in this category as well: 77 percent have college degrees and 48 percent have post-graduate degrees."
"Jews earn more than Muslims but as not as much more as they used to. According to the Pew findings, 44 percent of American Jews earn $100,000 or more a year. (Jews are actually more than twice as likely than the average American to have make over $100,000.) Only 20 percent of Muslims fall into that income category. But the gap is narrowing, with Jews earning less and Muslims earning more: 46 percent of American Jews made more than $100,000 a year seven years ago, compared with only 13 percent of Muslims."
Source: Pew research of May, 2015
Also, a lot of the backlash Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
lol
Are you a fan of ineptitude indz?
So much irony in the bold part and the response my reply elicited.
Hindus and Jews continue to be the most highly educated religious traditions. Fully 77% of Hindus are college graduates, as are 59% of Jews (compared with 27% of all U.S. adults). These groups also have above-average household incomes. Fully 44% of Jews and 36% of Hindus say their annual family income exceeds $100,000, compared with 19% of the public overall.
From your provided link only, where it mentions Muslims being most educated minority lol? :)
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
lol
Are you a fan of ineptitude indz?
So much irony in the bold part and the response my reply elicited.
Hindus and Jews continue to be the most highly educated religious traditions. Fully 77% of Hindus are college graduates, as are 59% of Jews (compared with 27% of all U.S. adults). These groups also have above-average household incomes. Fully 44% of Jews and 36% of Hindus say their annual family income exceeds $100,000, compared with 19% of the public overall.
From your provided link only, where it mentions Muslims being most educated minority lol? :)
It'd seem you are indeed a fan of ineptitude.
I said Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S, as you ironically put in bold but still failed to comprehend. The average rate of those with a college degree in the U.S is 27%, and Muslims significantly exceed that rate at 39%. Learn to read before you pop your sass cherry.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
lol
Are you a fan of ineptitude indz?
So much irony in the bold part and the response my reply elicited.
Hindus and Jews continue to be the most highly educated religious traditions. Fully 77% of Hindus are college graduates, as are 59% of Jews (compared with 27% of all U.S. adults). These groups also have above-average household incomes. Fully 44% of Jews and 36% of Hindus say their annual family income exceeds $100,000, compared with 19% of the public overall.
From your provided link only, where it mentions Muslims being most educated minority lol? :)
It'd seem you are indeed a fan of ineptitude.
I said Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S, as you ironically put in bold but still failed to comprehend. The average rate of those with a college degree in the U.S is 27%, and Muslims significantly exceed that rate at 39%. Learn to read before you pop your sass cherry.
I'm unable to find where it mentions muslims being amongst the most educated minorities in US from your link. Please point it out, Thanks :)
@Maroxad: Here are the more recent findings of a 2015 Pew research on America's religious landscape and its socioeconomic trends:
"The Pew report shows that 59 percent of American Jews have college degrees, compared with 39 percent of Muslims – still much higher than the 27 percent among Americans overall. In addition, 31 percent of American Jews have post-graduate degrees, as compared with 17 percent of American Muslim. Hindus top the list in this category as well: 77 percent have college degrees and 48 percent have post-graduate degrees."
"Jews earn more than Muslims but as not as much more as they used to. According to the Pew findings, 44 percent of American Jews earn $100,000 or more a year. (Jews are actually more than twice as likely than the average American to have make over $100,000.) Only 20 percent of Muslims fall into that income category. But the gap is narrowing, with Jews earning less and Muslims earning more: 46 percent of American Jews made more than $100,000 a year seven years ago, compared with only 13 percent of Muslims."
Source: Pew research of May, 2015
Hmm interesting. Thanks, so of the religious groups.
Muslims would be the 7th most educated religious group following a major religion. Or second lowest non christian only behind the nones. Still above average I though. But I am not sure that I would call that among the best. Only above average.
(To be among the best, You would have to be top 3 ;)
@Maroxad: Here are the more recent findings of a 2015 Pew research on America's religious landscape and its socioeconomic trends:
"The Pew report shows that 59 percent of American Jews have college degrees, compared with 39 percent of Muslims – still much higher than the 27 percent among Americans overall. In addition, 31 percent of American Jews have post-graduate degrees, as compared with 17 percent of American Muslim. Hindus top the list in this category as well: 77 percent have college degrees and 48 percent have post-graduate degrees."
"Jews earn more than Muslims but as not as much more as they used to. According to the Pew findings, 44 percent of American Jews earn $100,000 or more a year. (Jews are actually more than twice as likely than the average American to have make over $100,000.) Only 20 percent of Muslims fall into that income category. But the gap is narrowing, with Jews earning less and Muslims earning more: 46 percent of American Jews made more than $100,000 a year seven years ago, compared with only 13 percent of Muslims."
Source: Pew research of May, 2015
Hmm interesting. Thanks, so of the religious groups.
Muslims would be the 7th most educated religious group following a major religion. Or second lowest non christian only behind the nones. Still above average I though. But I am not sure that I would call that among the best. Only above average.
(To be among the best, You would have to be top 3 ;)
I already established the context of the discussion to be religious minorities, and Muslims come fourth following Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus. Originally I thought they were only surpassed by Hindus and Jews. And as their education rate is significantly above average, I'd classify them among the best educated in the country. But I concede this isn't an apt interpretation of the data, for it ignores atheists and other non-religious religious groups. Originally I ignored those thinking they don't qualify as religious minorities, but in that case Muslims would come last among what I deem to be religious minorities, in which case the citation is pointless.
@Maroxad: Here are the more recent findings of a 2015 Pew research on America's religious landscape and its socioeconomic trends:
"The Pew report shows that 59 percent of American Jews have college degrees, compared with 39 percent of Muslims – still much higher than the 27 percent among Americans overall. In addition, 31 percent of American Jews have post-graduate degrees, as compared with 17 percent of American Muslim. Hindus top the list in this category as well: 77 percent have college degrees and 48 percent have post-graduate degrees."
"Jews earn more than Muslims but as not as much more as they used to. According to the Pew findings, 44 percent of American Jews earn $100,000 or more a year. (Jews are actually more than twice as likely than the average American to have make over $100,000.) Only 20 percent of Muslims fall into that income category. But the gap is narrowing, with Jews earning less and Muslims earning more: 46 percent of American Jews made more than $100,000 a year seven years ago, compared with only 13 percent of Muslims."
Source: Pew research of May, 2015
Hmm interesting. Thanks, so of the religious groups.
Muslims would be the 7th most educated religious group following a major religion. Or second lowest non christian only behind the nones. Still above average I though. But I am not sure that I would call that among the best. Only above average.
(To be among the best, You would have to be top 3 ;)
I already established the context of the discussion to be religious minorities, and Muslims come fourth following Jews, Buddhists, and Hindus. Originally I thought they were only surpassed by Hindus and Jews. And as their education rate is significantly above average, I'd classify them among the best educated in the country. But I concede this isn't an apt interpretation of the data, for it ignores atheists and other non-religious religious groups. Originally I ignored those thinking they don't qualify as religious minorities, but in that case Muslims would come last among what I deem to be religious minorities, in which case the citation is pointless.
Atheists tend to be categorized as a religoius group. Same reasons why non voters are also categorized in democratic polls, seperately from those who vote blank. Muslims could still be amongst the highest if we are willing to factor in cults like scientology and whatnot, but we have no evidence on the cults of america. So I cannot say how that goes on that front. Either way. I dont think Muslims are amonst the most educated on average anymore, while definately above average, they are not amongst the best. But where the line for amongst best gpoes is arbitary anyways.
Who cares? It's on the other side of the Atlantic, which muslim would want to go there?
Why do you think every jacka$$ politician with a microphone represents America? And then connect an idiot statement to the entire legacy of the U.S.? There's nothing poetic about a [now] public racist and bigot gaining votes. This is America after all. Want to find a racist here...throw a rock. He will not get into the White House but I must say how I am surprises that his candidacy continues to gain steam the more ludicrous his views become.
Except Trump isn't your everyday racist yokel or white supremacist; he's a filthy rich man - and we all know how American politics consecrates money - and a prominent public figure who's leading the Republican primaries on a purely racist platform. Only if it was a fringe candidate spouting such venom to pander to his narrow base would it have been due to give the U.S the benefit of the doubt and observe prudence in passing judgement. Furthermore, if you combine the bases of the top 3 Republican candidates, Trump, Carson, and Cruz, who share the same apocalyptic views on Muslims, you'll more or less end up with the entire Republican base, which constitutes half the U.S's population.
But Muslim-hatred in the U.S doesn't stop there, as it isn't an exclusively Republican prejudice. If you take into account the liberal bases of the likes of Sam Harris and Bill Maher, then you'll end up with a significant majority of Islamophobes in the U.S, something that a 2014 Pew research demonstrated when it found that Muslims are the mot negatively perceived religious group in the U.S - even lower than atheists.
If you can't see poetic justice in the success of an election campaign that's aggrandizing an ominous tyrant by utilizing the kind of demagoguery that capitalizes on prejudices and fears the U.S either concocted or popularized, we'll have to disagree on what constitutes poetic justice. Just like we'll have to disagree on Trump's ability to make it to the White House.
Muslims created that perception themselves by not taking out their trash.
It isn't easy to take out your trash when it has a superpower as both its beneficiary and benefactor. But by all means, stick your head farther in the sand and continue relishing the same threadbare prejudices; it's your funeral. Anyone with a pea-sized brain realizes that Trump is calamitous for the U.S and that if it wasn't for his aptitude at exploiting such threadbare prejudices, his campaign would've never taken off, let alone soared thus high.
That isn't to say that the Middle East and the Muslim world haven't payed a hefty price; but I assure you that it won't be us who will cash the ultimate check.
You're rhetoric doesn't do anything to alleviate animosity towards muslims. Statements such as "it's your funeral" coupled with muslims inexplicable stoicism towards terrorist acts against non-muslim countries fan the flames of animosity towards muslims in modernized western countries. If you want to change things in a positive fashion then you need to stop running your mouth. You're worse than Donald Trump. I find your statement threatening and I plan on reporting you to the FBI.
Why do you think every jacka$$ politician with a microphone represents America? And then connect an idiot statement to the entire legacy of the U.S.? There's nothing poetic about a [now] public racist and bigot gaining votes. This is America after all. Want to find a racist here...throw a rock. He will not get into the White House but I must say how I am surprises that his candidacy continues to gain steam the more ludicrous his views become.
Except Trump isn't your everyday racist yokel or white supremacist; he's a filthy rich man - and we all know how American politics consecrates money - and a prominent public figure who's leading the Republican primaries on a purely racist platform. Only if it was a fringe candidate spouting such venom to pander to his narrow base would it have been due to give the U.S the benefit of the doubt and observe prudence in passing judgement. Furthermore, if you combine the bases of the top 3 Republican candidates, Trump, Carson, and Cruz, who share the same apocalyptic views on Muslims, you'll more or less end up with the entire Republican base, which constitutes half the U.S's population.
But Muslim-hatred in the U.S doesn't stop there, as it isn't an exclusively Republican prejudice. If you take into account the liberal bases of the likes of Sam Harris and Bill Maher, then you'll end up with a significant majority of Islamophobes in the U.S, something that a 2014 Pew research demonstrated when it found that Muslims are the mot negatively perceived religious group in the U.S - even lower than atheists.
If you can't see poetic justice in the success of an election campaign that's aggrandizing an ominous tyrant by utilizing the kind of demagoguery that capitalizes on prejudices and fears the U.S either concocted or popularized, we'll have to disagree on what constitutes poetic justice. Just like we'll have to disagree on Trump's ability to make it to the White House.
Muslims created that perception themselves by not taking out their trash.
It isn't easy to take out your trash when it has a superpower as both its beneficiary and benefactor. But by all means, stick your head farther in the sand and continue relishing the same threadbare prejudices; it's your funeral. Anyone with a pea-sized brain realizes that Trump is calamitous for the U.S and that if it wasn't for his aptitude at exploiting such threadbare prejudices, his campaign would've never taken off, let alone soared thus high.
That isn't to say that the Middle East and the Muslim world haven't payed a hefty price; but I assure you that it won't be us who will cash the ultimate check.
You're rhetoric doesn't do anything to alleviate animosity towards muslims. Statements such as "it's your funeral" coupled with muslims inexplicable stoicism towards terrorist acts against non-muslim countries fan the flames of animosity towards muslims in modernized western countries. If you want to change things in a positive fashion then you need to stop running your mouth. You're worse than Donald Trump. I find your statement threatening and I plan on reporting you to the FBI.
FBI doesn't handle foreign affairs, that would be CIA.. He lives in the gaza strip if I believe? Just contact gamespot staff if you have an issue with his statements. lol no need to get that crazy.
Why do you think every jacka$$ politician with a microphone represents America? And then connect an idiot statement to the entire legacy of the U.S.? There's nothing poetic about a [now] public racist and bigot gaining votes. This is America after all. Want to find a racist here...throw a rock. He will not get into the White House but I must say how I am surprises that his candidacy continues to gain steam the more ludicrous his views become.
Except Trump isn't your everyday racist yokel or white supremacist; he's a filthy rich man - and we all know how American politics consecrates money - and a prominent public figure who's leading the Republican primaries on a purely racist platform. Only if it was a fringe candidate spouting such venom to pander to his narrow base would it have been due to give the U.S the benefit of the doubt and observe prudence in passing judgement. Furthermore, if you combine the bases of the top 3 Republican candidates, Trump, Carson, and Cruz, who share the same apocalyptic views on Muslims, you'll more or less end up with the entire Republican base, which constitutes half the U.S's population.
But Muslim-hatred in the U.S doesn't stop there, as it isn't an exclusively Republican prejudice. If you take into account the liberal bases of the likes of Sam Harris and Bill Maher, then you'll end up with a significant majority of Islamophobes in the U.S, something that a 2014 Pew research demonstrated when it found that Muslims are the mot negatively perceived religious group in the U.S - even lower than atheists.
If you can't see poetic justice in the success of an election campaign that's aggrandizing an ominous tyrant by utilizing the kind of demagoguery that capitalizes on prejudices and fears the U.S either concocted or popularized, we'll have to disagree on what constitutes poetic justice. Just like we'll have to disagree on Trump's ability to make it to the White House.
Muslims created that perception themselves by not taking out their trash.
It isn't easy to take out your trash when it has a superpower as both its beneficiary and benefactor. But by all means, stick your head farther in the sand and continue relishing the same threadbare prejudices; it's your funeral. Anyone with a pea-sized brain realizes that Trump is calamitous for the U.S and that if it wasn't for his aptitude at exploiting such threadbare prejudices, his campaign would've never taken off, let alone soared thus high.
That isn't to say that the Middle East and the Muslim world haven't payed a hefty price; but I assure you that it won't be us who will cash the ultimate check.
You're rhetoric doesn't do anything to alleviate animosity towards muslims. Statements such as "it's your funeral" coupled with muslims inexplicable stoicism towards terrorist acts against non-muslim countries fan the flames of animosity towards muslims in modernized western countries. If you want to change things in a positive fashion then you need to stop running your mouth. You're worse than Donald Trump. I find your statement threatening and I plan on reporting you to the FBI.
FBI doesn't handle foreign affairs, that would be CIA.. He lives in the gaza strip if I believe? Just contact gamespot staff if you have an issue with his statements. lol no need to get that crazy.
lol
The Thread sure took a wrong turn HeHe
This would never work, what needs to happen is Muslims need to police within their own communities. Don't let somone claiming they're a muslim get away with it if it's hurting the greater whole. A religion that's based apparently on peace doesn't make much sense to have an open casting call for a violent Jihad.
Out these people, shame these people. These Radical ideals should be nipped at the bud. Especially open support for Sharia law, an idea that's so medieval in concept it's just plainly barbaric in nature.
Imam's that preach messages of this nature should be held accountable. We need to start looking to the shepherd and what exactly is being said to the gullible flock.
Also, a lot of the backlash Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Reading comprehension not your strong point? He said one of the most educated minorities. Not the most educated (that would be the Jews).
And he would be correct about that as well.
The percentage of U.S. Muslims in individual income and education brackets tracks closely to that of the rest of the U.S. population, surveys suggest. According to a 2009 Gallup poll, U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the United States. Almost 50 percent of Muslims identify with religion before their U.S. identity (nearly half of U.S. Christians polled by Gallup also identified with their religion first). That percentage is significantly higher than percentages of Muslims recognizing national identity first in Europe and in many Muslim nations, according to Pew polls.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html?sr=twcnni120815muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception1015AMVODtopLink&linkId=19402214
Forty percent of Muslims say they have a college degree, making them the second most highly educated religious group surveyed after Jews (61 percent), compared with 29 percent of Americans overall who say they have a college degree, according to Gallup [PDF]. That carries across gender lines, with Muslim females being the second-most educated religious group in the country, after Jewish females.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/america-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/#readings
Of course, one could ask what degrees they do have. But nonetheless, from the statistics they do have... were rather surprising.
He isn't actually right on that....
Of course he is, and the numbers back him up. Statistically speaking, a Muslim has a greater chance of earning more and having a higher education degree than most other minority groups in the US (or the general population).
A large portion of the Muslim population in the US is here largely because of brain drain. I can speak from experience that my university and grad school had a large % of Muslims. All come from wealthy families over seas that have been displaced due to violence or just plain better opportunities in the US.
Also, a lot of the backlash Donald "I am the least racist person" Trump is getting for his anti-Muslim rhetoric is chiefly self-interested, as Muslims are among the most educated minorities in the U.S and their affluence is on the rise. Too bad the ineptitude of cretins cheering for such malice is immune to reason and persuasion.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Reading comprehension not your strong point? He said one of the most educated minorities. Not the most educated (that would be the Jews).
And he would be correct about that as well.
The percentage of U.S. Muslims in individual income and education brackets tracks closely to that of the rest of the U.S. population, surveys suggest. According to a 2009 Gallup poll, U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the United States. Almost 50 percent of Muslims identify with religion before their U.S. identity (nearly half of U.S. Christians polled by Gallup also identified with their religion first). That percentage is significantly higher than percentages of Muslims recognizing national identity first in Europe and in many Muslim nations, according to Pew polls.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html?sr=twcnni120815muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception1015AMVODtopLink&linkId=19402214
Forty percent of Muslims say they have a college degree, making them the second most highly educated religious group surveyed after Jews (61 percent), compared with 29 percent of Americans overall who say they have a college degree, according to Gallup [PDF]. That carries across gender lines, with Muslim females being the second-most educated religious group in the country, after Jewish females.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/america-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/#readings
Of course, one could ask what degrees they do have. But nonetheless, from the statistics they do have... were rather surprising.
He isn't actually right on that....
Of course he is, and the numbers back him up. Statistically speaking, a Muslim has a greater chance of earning more and having a higher education degree than most other minority groups in the US (or the general population).
A large portion of the Muslim population in the US is here largely because of brain drain. I can speak from experience that my university and grad school had a large % of Muslims. All come from wealthy families over seas that have been displaced due to violence or just plain better opportunities in the US.
I live next to the city with largest arab population outside of the middle east (dearborn michigan). He's wrong.
He isn't actually right on that....
Of course he is, and the numbers back him up. Statistically speaking, a Muslim has a greater chance of earning more and having a higher education degree than most other minority groups in the US (or the general population).
A large portion of the Muslim population in the US is here largely because of brain drain. I can speak from experience that my university and grad school had a large % of Muslims. All come from wealthy families over seas that have been displaced due to violence or just plain better opportunities in the US.
I live next to the city with largest arab population outside of the middle east (dearborn michigan). He's wrong.
No one gives a shit about your anecdotes. We've presented you with actual statistics. Pull your head out of the sand.
As a muslim, I think Muslim people, instead of wandering to the other countries, should stay in their own countries and try to make it to a better place. We should remember it was generations of hard work to make U.S to what it is now and should not expect to share the advantages we havent' played a role creating them.
As a muslim, I think Muslim people, instead of wandering to the other countries, should stay in their own countries and try to make it to a better place. We should remember it was generations of hard work to make U.S to what it is now and should not expect to share the advantages we havent' played a role creating them.
......... What in the hell are you even talking about? The majority of the US ancestors were made up of people escaping persecution, war, a natural disaster, or looking for a new start to begin when they came over to the colonies.. How is this ANY different in this regard?
He isn't actually right on that....
Of course he is, and the numbers back him up. Statistically speaking, a Muslim has a greater chance of earning more and having a higher education degree than most other minority groups in the US (or the general population).
A large portion of the Muslim population in the US is here largely because of brain drain. I can speak from experience that my university and grad school had a large % of Muslims. All come from wealthy families over seas that have been displaced due to violence or just plain better opportunities in the US.
I live next to the city with largest arab population outside of the middle east (dearborn michigan). He's wrong.
No one gives a shit about your anecdotes. We've presented you with actual statistics. Pull your head out of the sand.
I think the term you were looking for is ass, not sand.
@Master_Live:
Isn't that just the same as that Democrats saying they need to put the refugee on hold until the government figure out what's going on?
@Master_Live:
Correction. Trumps immigration freeze has a deadline, which is the time government figured out what's going on.
The Democrats refugee freeze doesn't appears to have any deadline, which can be forever.
The "refugee freeze" is a Republican idea that overwhelmingly supported by House Republicans and 47 Democrats (in the House). And what does exactly Trumps means by figuring out what's "going on"? Way too vague.
Just like Obama's foreign policy.
Right or wrong he's just echoing the thoughts of many out there?
You say that like that fact shouldn't fill us with disgust and dread. It's horrific to imagine that he has a large base of support.
Muslims are the most educated minorities in the states? Are you just pulling stats out of thin air?
Reading comprehension not your strong point? He said one of the most educated minorities. Not the most educated (that would be the Jews).
And he would be correct about that as well.
The percentage of U.S. Muslims in individual income and education brackets tracks closely to that of the rest of the U.S. population, surveys suggest. According to a 2009 Gallup poll, U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the United States. Almost 50 percent of Muslims identify with religion before their U.S. identity (nearly half of U.S. Christians polled by Gallup also identified with their religion first). That percentage is significantly higher than percentages of Muslims recognizing national identity first in Europe and in many Muslim nations, according to Pew polls.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception/index.html?sr=twcnni120815muslims-in-america-shattering-misperception1015AMVODtopLink&linkId=19402214
Forty percent of Muslims say they have a college degree, making them the second most highly educated religious group surveyed after Jews (61 percent), compared with 29 percent of Americans overall who say they have a college degree, according to Gallup [PDF]. That carries across gender lines, with Muslim females being the second-most educated religious group in the country, after Jewish females.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/america-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/#readings
Of course, one could ask what degrees they do have. But nonetheless, from the statistics they do have... were rather surprising.
He isn't actually right on that....
Of course he is, and the numbers back him up. Statistically speaking, a Muslim has a greater chance of earning more and having a higher education degree than most other minority groups in the US (or the general population).
A large portion of the Muslim population in the US is here largely because of brain drain. I can speak from experience that my university and grad school had a large % of Muslims. All come from wealthy families over seas that have been displaced due to violence or just plain better opportunities in the US.
I live next to the city with largest arab population outside of the middle east (dearborn michigan). He's wrong.
Your attempt to use anecdotal evidence to prove your argument is embarrassing. Learn to debate.
Right or wrong he's just echoing the thoughts of many out there?
You say that like that fact shouldn't fill us with disgust and dread. It's horrific to imagine that he has a large base of support.
Islamic terrorist detected.
You're rhetoric doesn't do anything to alleviate animosity towards muslims. Statements such as "it's your funeral" coupled with muslims inexplicable stoicism towards terrorist acts against non-muslim countries fan the flames of animosity towards muslims in modernized western countries. If you want to change things in a positive fashion then you need to stop running your mouth. You're worse than Donald Trump. I find your statement threatening and I plan on reporting you to the FBI.
Get a load of this guy
Aren't you the benevolent one? being all about alleviating animosity towards Muslims. Of course I trust your rhetoric as much as I trust a lawyer's fealty to justice or a corporatist's love for egalitarianism. What you view as stoicism towards Islamic terrorism is an expression of this nation's maturation and its recognition of a venomous ideology that's exploiting the phenomenon to shame this nation and legitimate belligerence against it. Such maturation identifies those who're candid in their advisory and conciliatory rhetoric and those who're disguising malice and prejudice with it. It's finally sunk into the world's consciousness that Islamic terrorism is first and foremost a phenomenon concocted by unhinged imperialist forces drunk on power, money, and second-comings, which leaves no room for genuine misconceptions; everyone's chosen a side cognizant of what it espouses - conciliation or aggression. I have no interest in illuminating the prejudices of the prejudiced; I understand their malignancy and implacability.
Stoicism? I think not, but its the recognition of the true purpose of an antagonistic rhetoric: ensuring the perpetual disgrace and ruin of this nation. Deviation from the intended response to such rhetoric rattles its proponents; it signals the corrosion of their ethos.
The blanket term of Western countries has become an anachronism. France's decision to accept an additional 30,000 refugees following the latest attacks left me in an awe. I feel deeply indebted to Germany, Canada, and Sweden for what they're doing for a tattered people to whom they have no obligation. That gratitude is contrasted with disgust and aversion towards those who berate these western countries for their benevolence and fear-monger to them, hoping to animate prejudices and fears in their midst. Those are the same people who incited against a people in utter ruin long before there were talks about accepting a measly 10,000 of them into the U.S. The culmination, not the provenance, of such malice was the refusal to bear a modicum of the responsibility the U.S has towards these people and the disgusting rhetoric that accompanied it.
What is it that you find threatening in my statement? Is Trump the Middle East's responsibility? Is it Islam's concoction? If not, then what is it about my rhetoric that unhinged you enough to decide to report me to the FBI?
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