Everybody SHOULD Support Decriminalization of Cannabis... EVERYBODY

Only problem with your post is, that you don't know that cannabis isn't addicting. Biologically speaking and all... Maybe your friends felt like their fascination with cannabis was distracting them from other things in life (which can happen), so much to the point that they mistakenly thought they were addicted. People do not go through withdrawls after quitting smoking cannabis. People still don't seem to understand the difference between addiction and fascination. When you get addicted to something, you can't function normally without it. This is only a physical effect. the body changes to accomodate the new substance being intrduced to the system, and after changing, if you cease in providing this substance, your body becomes confused, and you get sick as a result. Of course, the sickness is simply your body fighting off the negative consequences of being deprived of something that it had been convinced was a necessity. Eventually, your body recovers and things return to normal. Fascination means, you're just really fond of it. So fond, you do it frequently. Frequently enough that it can become habitual. Habits can be tough to break, but only because you began to structure your everyday agenda around your habits, and the change can be annoying. Like with music, video games, and... weed. You can live without those things if you had to. You wouldn't become physically ill without them, because you're not dependent on those things. It's the same reason we know, as gamers, that all those reports of video game addiction are bogus. Sure we like to play, but if we have to go without them for a while, we know we're not going to be curled up in a ball in a dirty corner, screaming our eyes out, whining about the pain. The_Versatile

I do see your point, but just because you don't have physical withdrawls does not mean it is not addictive. I am addicted to tobacco, but lack of nicotine does not stop me functioning normally. It's always on my mind, just like cannabis was for the 2 friends i spoke about.

I also understand what you say about the "fascination", and if it is just fascination with the drug, doesn't that pose just as big a problem?

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"][QUOTE="Mikey132"]

Sorry yes it is. You just should stop believing everything you read. I've snorted coc, smoked crack. I've done acid and extasy. I know full well what an addiction is.

Mikey132

Oh I have. Best kind of research. I've done the drugs.

Tell me crack insn't physically addicting. Where do you really get off anyhow? When you done as many drugs as me come back and well talk about addiction. Your books smarts mean nothing to me on this topic.

But it's OK if that same kid takes swigs out of his daddy's flask every day after school, no? Effective parenting, and honest drug education, is the solution to the problem you just posed. Not making criminals out of peaceful, flower-loving people. Also, decriminalization won't make cannabis any more accessible than it already is. You must think I'm talking about legalization.The_Versatile

In my opinion, smoking crack is ridiculously stupid, but if dumb ass people want to do that, without harming others than they should be free to do so.xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="SmokingCrack"]No, no one has the right to kill themselves, or others. Just because you CAN doesn't make it a right.. .:| [QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"] Unjust and oppressive laws sometimes call for civil disobedience. Especially when they make little to no sense and infringe on basic sentient being rights. If i were to get caught smoking a joint, i wont apologize...in doing so i would be lying to myself and others.xxDustmanxx

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

Weed is not physically addicting. Sorry. You need to take a few more science classes.SmokingCrack

ROFL, what kind of science classes are you taking that say weed isn't addicting? Any "science" on this subject is shotty at best.

No, no one has the right to kill themselves, or others. Just because you CAN doesn't make it a right.. .:| JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"] That sounds more like generalized anxiety disorder and depression, something that the cannabis was probably helping him with prior to quitting.manicfoot

Are you being serious? Despite knowing nothing about my brother you're just assiming he had some sort of anxiety disorder that weed was covering up? SERIOUSLY? First of all, my brother isn't normally an anxious person. He's the outgoing type and I'M the anxious/depressed one. Because of this he found the whole experience quite scary because it HAD NEVER HAPPENED TO HIM BEFORE. He hasn't done any other drugs either. Doing a quick google search proves that my brother isn't alone: http://www.steadyhealth.com/Symptoms_of_the_marijuana_withdrawals_t52868.html check out some of the posts in that thread. Some say they did other drugs, some say they did just weed for 3.5 years. Did they all have undiagnosed anxiety disorders as well? :roll:

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]What about crack smokers? Do you feel that the crack smokers who are able to toke up and live perfectly normal lives are being oppressed because smoking crack is against the law? Mikey132

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"]

Weed is not physically addicting. Sorry. You need to take a few more science classes.DaBrainz

ROFL, what kind of science classes are you taking that say weed isn't addicting? Any "science" on this subject is shotty at best.

No, it's not ok. And even then, full grown people are ruining their lives by clouding their minds with THC. JustPlainLucas

decriminalization would be a good first step, but that doesn't eliminate the drug dealers or the hurt the drug cartels. It needs to be legalized.

Guybrush_3

What makes you think the drug dealers will go away just cause its legal?

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]No, it's not ok. And even then, full grown people are ruining their lives by clouding their minds with THC. The_Versatile

Actually, everyone has a right to kill themselves. Nobody owns your body, mind, and life but you.The_Versatile

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"]But it's OK if that same kid takes swigs out of his daddy's flask every day after school, no? Effective parenting, and honest drug education, is the solution to the problem you just posed. Not making criminals out of peaceful, flower-loving people. Also, decriminalization won't make cannabis any more accessible than it already is. You must think I'm talking about legalization.JustPlainLucas

In my opinion, smoking crack is ridiculously stupid, but if dumb ass people want to do that, without harming others than they should be free to do so.xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"]

Weed is not physically addicting. Sorry. You need to take a few more science classes.DaBrainz

ROFL, what kind of science classes are you taking that say weed isn't addicting? Any "science" on this subject is shotty at best.

Well here is one link

I did take a substance abuse c lass and there was no mention of marijuana being physically addicting nor was it mentioned in the book we used "Tenth Edition Drugs and Society"

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"]Of course, but too many people are already part of this culture and it's only going to grow as time goes on.JustPlainLucas

Unjust and oppressive laws sometimes call for civil disobedience. Especially when they make little to no sense and infringe on basic sentient being rights. If i were to get caught smoking a joint, i wont apologize...in doing so i would be lying to myself and others.xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]No, it's not ok. And even then, full grown people are ruining their lives by clouding their minds with THC. JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"][QUOTE="Mikey132"]

Oh I have. Best kind of research. I've done the drugs.

Tell me crack insn't physically addicting. Where do you really get off anyhow? When you done as many drugs as me come back and well talk about addiction. Your books smarts mean nothing to me on this topic.

Mikey132

Well I'll speak from experience again. When I don't have weed. I want to do it. Think about it and whis I could. Mental addiction right? I can accept in my head that I don't have it and can't smoke it right now. Yet, my body dosen't accept this. I do sweat (I've been smoking for so long) I could never sleep without it anymore. (until I've stopped for maybe a week) And my body just does not feel right. Even though I've accepted it in my head, my brain is not turning the want for it off in my body.

When I do finaly smoke some after not having it. The relief is in my body, not my head.

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="The_Versatile"] Propoganda isn't truth. You need some re-education. Try this link. http://medicalmarijuanapatient.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"][QUOTE="The_Versatile"] Propoganda isn't truth. You need some re-education. Try this link. http://medicalmarijuanapatient.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"] Okay, let me put it this way. Just because you feel a certain way doesn't mean you know how to properly correlate that feeling to the appropriate definition. You're clearly confused. Crack makes you feel horrible if you use it frequently and then stop, but that does not mean you have a PHYSICAL dependence. Here's a good example for you. Quitting a high dosage of benzodiazepines cold turkey can result in seizures that cause you to die. That's because you have a PHYSICAL DEPENDENCE. If you quit using crack, you're not at risk for that sort of thing. Can you have a seizure after frequent crack use due to the damage it's done to your body? Yes. But this is NOT the same thing. Jesus Christ.SmokingCrack

Well I'll speak from experience again. When I don't have weed. I want to do it. Think about it and whis I could. Mental addiction right? I can accept in my head that I don't have it and can't smoke it right now. Yet, my body dosen't accept this. I do sweat (I've been smoking for so long) I could never sleep without it anymore. (until I've stopped for maybe a week) And my body just does not feel right. Even though I've accepted it in my head, my brain is not turning the want for it off in my body.

When I do finaly smoke some after not having it. The relief is in my body, not my head.

No, my body does not have to do some kind of function for me to be physically dependant on something. That's just a physical reaction.

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

JustPlainLucas

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

We want to keep Crack Illegal, I've been there, no good. Most people who get heavy into Crack do hurt the people around them. There really is no "do it without hurting anyone" when it comes to Crack

JustPlainLucas

Because of unjust laws.

Failing tests sure is dangerous.

[QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]No, no one has the right to kill themselves, or others. Just because you CAN doesn't make it a right.. .:| The_Versatile

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"][QUOTE="Mikey132"]

Well I'll speak from experience again. When I don't have weed. I want to do it. Think about it and whis I could. Mental addiction right? I can accept in my head that I don't have it and can't smoke it right now. Yet, my body dosen't accept this. I do sweat (I've been smoking for so long) I could never sleep without it anymore. (until I've stopped for maybe a week) And my body just does not feel right. Even though I've accepted it in my head, my brain is not turning the want for it off in my body.

When I do finaly smoke some after not having it. The relief is in my body, not my head.

Mikey132

No, my body does not have to do some kind of function for me to be physically dependant on something. That's just a physical reaction.

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"][QUOTE="JustPlainLucas"]No, no one has the right to kill themselves, or others. Just because you CAN doesn't make it a right.. .:| AirGuitarist87

When you get addicted to something, you can't function normally without it. This is only a physical effect. the body changes to accomodate the new substance being intrduced to the system, and after changing, if you cease in providing this substance, your body becomes confused, and you get sick as a result. Of course, the sickness is simply your body fighting off the negative consequences of being deprived of something that it had been convinced was a necessity. Eventually, your body recovers and things return to normal. Fascination means, you're just really fond of it. So fond, you do it frequently. Frequently enough that it can become habitual. The_Versatile

Congrats man that probably is the finest word a self confessed addict can make.

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"] When you get addicted to something, you can't function normally without it. This is only a physical effect. the body changes to accomodate the new substance being intrduced to the system, and after changing, if you cease in providing this substance, your body becomes confused, and you get sick as a result. Of course, the sickness is simply your body fighting off the negative consequences of being deprived of something that it had been convinced was a necessity. Eventually, your body recovers and things return to normal. Fascination means, you're just really fond of it. So fond, you do it frequently. Frequently enough that it can become habitual. AtvarU

Congrats man that probably is the finest word a self confessed addict can make.

yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......Omni-Slash

Actually, having it illegal costs your tax dollar far more than if it were decriminalized. Whats worse, is even with all the harsh laws dope still falls into kids hands at an alarming rate.

Even worse, Alcohol is harder for kids to get a hold of than dope...funny ain't it?

yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

[QUOTE="SmokingCrack"]

Weed is not physically addicting. Sorry. You need to take a few more science classes.Nifty_Shark

ROFL, what kind of science classes are you taking that say weed isn't addicting? Any "science" on this subject is shotty at best.

Well here is one link

I did take a substance abuse c lass and there was no mention of marijuana being physically addicting nor was it mentioned in the book we used "Tenth Edition Drugs and Society"

Having a lack of evidence that something is addicting does not prove its not addicting.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......dnuggs40

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......xxDustmanxx

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]

This country was built on the hemp industry...funny you should bring that up. Many of our founding fathers were hemp farmers. Hemp is a great product.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......Omni-Slash

Funny thing is, when asked in polls kids say weed is easier to get than alcohol. This is due to Alcohol being regulated.

yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......Omni-Slash

This country was built on the hemp industry...funny you should bring that up. Many of our founding fathers were hemp farmers. Hemp is a great product.dnuggs40

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......Omni-Slash

Legalizing and regulating cannabis WILL keep it out of kids hands.xxDustmanxx

Lol a lot of people at my school, and teenagers in general, are in support of legalizing pot but don't have the common sense to realize that it will have an age limit on it like cigarrettes and alcohol.

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]yeah no.....I have enough crap that my tax dollars have to keep out of kid's hands......The_Versatile