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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]You may think my perception is off, but you haven't told me how I am wrong.Your perception of science is off. You seem to think that things in science can be proven like they are in math. It doesnt work like that.
harashawn
Yes I answered that already. You just missed it.
A theory is simply something that has not yet been disproved
That is a hypothesis. actually that is less than a hypothesis. because following that definition a theory doesnt even have to fall within the bounds of science. "God did it" is a perfectly legitimate theory by your definition. As I said earlier your perception of science is off.
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]he wants absolute proof that evolution is true. foxhound_fox
The evidence in support of evolution is as close to absolute as something can get in science. The fact that evolution is so well observed and documented... to deny it would nearly be like denying 2 + 2 = 4.
"but that is just micro evolution"
People will deny it to hell and back.
A hypothesis is an educated guess.Yes I answered that already. You just missed it.
A theory is simply something that has not yet been disproved
That is a hypothesis. actually that is less than a hypothesis. because following that definition a theory doesnt even have to fall within the bounds of science. "God did it" is a perfectly legitimate theory by your definition. As I said earlier your perception of science is off.
Guybrush_3
A theory has been tested repeatedly but has not been disproved.
"God did it" is not a valid theory because it has not been tested repeatedly, it is simply an assumption.
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]A hypothesis is an educated guess.Yes I answered that already. You just missed it.
A theory is simply something that has not yet been disproved
That is a hypothesis. actually that is less than a hypothesis. because following that definition a theory doesnt even have to fall within the bounds of science. "God did it" is a perfectly legitimate theory by your definition. As I said earlier your perception of science is off.
harashawn
A theory has been tested repeatedly but has not been disproved.
"God did it" is not a valid theory because it has not been tested repeatedly, it is simply an assumption.
You don't prove things in science... you come up with hypotheses, test them and look for evidence, then submit them to peer review. If it becomes a theory, it isn't merely 'tested repeatedly,' it is applied to one's knowledge. You don't say "We will find *blank* because the theory says so." We say "We predict we will find *blank* because the theory suggests it." Like they said, proof is applied to mathematics, not science."but that is just micro evolution"People will deny it to hell and back.
Guybrush_3
[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]Evolution wins by default since Creationism is insane.harashawnYou're confusing opinion with fact.
neither are factual your reply implies that you are saying creationism is factual
[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]Evolution wins by default since Creationism is insane.harashawnYou're confusing opinion with fact. Im pretty sure thats what religious people do. *BADUM TISH!* ok...that was bad :P
You're confusing opinion with fact.[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]Evolution wins by default since Creationism is insane.chris_yz80
neither are factual your reply implies that you are saying creationism is factual
The theory of evolution is based on facts, every single fact ever observed relating to evolution supports it. and it is a fact that evolution has happened.
[QUOTE="chris_yz80"][QUOTE="harashawn"] You're confusing opinion with fact. Guybrush_3
neither are factual your reply implies that you are saying creationism is factual
The theory of evolution is based on facts, every single fact ever observed relating to evolution supports it. and it is a fact that evolution has happened.
no it uses eviedence to support it in science nothing is ever a fact
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="chris_yz80"]neither are factual your reply implies that you are saying creationism is factual
chris_yz80
The theory of evolution is based on facts, every single fact ever observed relating to evolution supports it. and it is a fact that evolution has happened.
no it uses eviedence to support it in science nothing is ever a fact
Empirical evidence... fact.[QUOTE="zakkro"]Even so, do you have any proof that evolution is false?harashawnI never said it was.
Then what makes you so sure that it will be refuted? Is it just because you don't like it?
[QUOTE="zakkro"]Even so, do you have any proof that evolution is false?harashawnI never said it was.
i said that before, i know understand that you were just tryting to explain that his knowledge of the scientific method was slightly incorrect, i apologise for my reply earlier you just seemed pro creationist
[QUOTE="zakkro"]Even so, do you have any proof that evolution is false?harashawnI never said it was. Uh... okay. Going back to what I said earlier, no I did not 'reword' your argument... Nothing in science is 'proven.' Theories aren't retested to make sure that they're still useful... they're used as applied knowledge and to predict what will happen.
[QUOTE="Bloodbath_87"]Evolution wins by default since Creationism is insane.harashawnYou're confusing opinion with fact. There are no facts in religious discussion, only common sense, and right now it's telling me that Creationism is insane in every way.
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It is the way science works and has worked throughout history. Every idea is replaced by another. Not always replaced, but often modified. One need look no further than the history of atomic theory.Then what makes you so sure that it will be refuted? Is it just because you don't like it?
harashawn
[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]It is the way science works and has worked throughout history. Every idea is replaced by another.Then what makes you so sure that it will be refuted? Is it just because you don't like it?
harashawn
replaced OR expanded upon.
Whether you believe in evolution or not, the human race has evolved in a sense. Not by turning into some superior creature, but by technology. Look around us? We have cars, computers, phones, internet... If we went back in time and showed people the things we have now, it would be like magic to them.Superironic
In terms of technology, we have advance more in the past 200 years than we did in all of human history before it. We have reinvented the wheel and then some.
To all the people who said they haven't seen evolution happen. it takes place over millions of years so it would be impossible for anyone to see it happen.supermike6
not true. Evolution has been observed. for the most part it takes a long time though.
I pick the one that has proper, verifiable evidence to back it up.
I made the universe and everything inside it and every law. I know this, because I say so.
Although society has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevicably human. Ergo, vis a vis, some of you will comprehend the concept of a creator and some of you will not. While concordently your first question may seem the most pertinent, you will also realize it is the most irrelevant.
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="6_volts"]An intelligent designer created life, and then evolution occurred.mattpunkgd
Nobody said we evolved from monkeys. We share a common ancestor with the other primates, including monkeys, that's all.
Lol Wut? Ya there is proof of evolution. Like those islands with all the different birds and lizards or something, don't ask me lol. I don't believe we evolved from monkeys though lol, maybe some other kind of human like those ones they found a skull of (can't remember name), but not monkeys...[QUOTE="mattpunkgd"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
Evolution does not exist. There are absolutely no evidence to suggest that any animal evolved into another. If there were, we would see transitional forms between the different stages.
If God created man in His image, then how would it even be possible for us to evolve from monkeys?ithilgore2006
Nobody said we evolved from monkeys. We share a common ancestor with the other primates, including monkeys, that's all.
Who probably looked pretty similar to monkeys too anyway.Is Creationism the one where they think they can prove the world started 6000 years ago? If so, then not that one.clembo1990
That is Young Earth Creationism, yes.
I know that evolution is real because there is more evidence in favor of such an important theory in the field of biology than I could ever possibly know or list. I don't have to display blind faith, go to a Church of Evolution or pray to Charles Darwin every night, because evolution isn't a religion--it's scientific fact. Once a new theory comes along that provides a different explanation for the variation of life, while also proving that every single shred of evidence ever surfaced in favor of evolution is wrong, then I'll believe in said theory. As for the time being, however, it is illogical to even question evolution's authenticity without having strong scientific research & evidence to back up your claims; as of now, that has yet to happen.
Why I don't believe in creationism? Because it promotes irrational, blind faith while denying any aspect of life that contradicts the foundation it's religion is built upon. The only reason that Young Earth Creationists oppose evolution, for the most part, is because they all share a literal depiction of the story of Adam & Eve within the Bible.
Watch whole video.
Evolution: Plenty of evidence that supports a theory that hasn't been disproven. We're not saying it's fact, just the best way to explain things at the moment.
Religion: Uh, we're right because evolution is uh...not fact. Oh, and you can't disprove religion! Our evidence is...blind faith, BUT I KNOW HE EXISTS BECAUSE THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO!
The evidence in support of evolution is as close to absolute as something can get in science. The fact that evolution is so well observed and documented... to deny it would nearly be like denying 2 + 2 = 4.foxhound_fox:shock:..:lol: To deny evolution would be more like denying 1 + 0 + 0 = 100.
Creationism is definitely true. Look at the pile of evidence it has to support it:I'm not liking that kind of sarcasm.foxhound_fox
:shock:..:lol: To deny evolution would be more like denying 1 + 0 + 0 = 100.Revinh
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