Evolution or Creationism? **With a poll :P**

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#201 paradigm68
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Evolution has some flaws, but it makes hell a lot more sense then Creationism.
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#202 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Fundamentalist Christians tend to oppose the specific theories of science that contradicts their literal interpretation of the Bible. This being said, I have reason to believe that you only oppose the theory of evolution due to your religious beliefs.

If so, I suggest you form a more open mindset and actually learn more about evolution and all the evidence supporting it. You may claim to know all there is to know about evolution, but from posts I've seen from you in the past, I would highly doubt that. Highly.

-Jiggles-

I highly don't care.

Oh, but I know you do. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be posting in this very topic against evolution. If you didn't care, you would've just posted "I believe in creationism" and leave it at that--but no, you laugh and argue against the acknowledgements of another poster, so it's blatantly obvious that you do care what we think.

Go ahead and deny the fact that you do care, because that is your choice. However, be aware that showing a false sign of apathy doesn't support your arguement(s) in any conceivable way--it hurts your ambitions if anything.

I was saying I don't care if you doubt I know about evolution. :roll:
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#203 -Jiggles-
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Evolution has some flaws, but it makes hell a lot more sense then Creationism.paradigm68

What flaws do you speak of, might I ask? Maybe I can help you better understand more.

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#204 -Jiggles-
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="Revinh"] I highly don't care.Revinh

Oh, but I know you do. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be posting in this very topic against evolution. If you didn't care, you would've just posted "I believe in creationism" and leave it at that--but no, you laugh and argue against the acknowledgements of another poster, so it's blatantly obvious that you do care what we think.

Go ahead and deny the fact that you do care, because that is your choice. However, be aware that showing a false sign of apathy doesn't support your arguement(s) in any conceivable way--it hurts your ambitions if anything.

I was saying I don't care if you doubt I know about evolution. :roll:

Yet I've seen you repeat this tactic with others in this thread and within past threads as well.

If you're not willing to put effort into your arguement(s), you shouldn't be arguing at all. It only diminishes the integrity of the cause or belief you support.

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#205 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Oh, but I know you do. If you didn't care, you wouldn't be posting in this very topic against evolution. If you didn't care, you would've just posted "I believe in creationism" and leave it at that--but no, you laugh and argue against the acknowledgements of another poster, so it's blatantly obvious that you do care what we think.

Go ahead and deny the fact that you do care, because that is your choice. However, be aware that showing a false sign of apathy doesn't support your arguement(s) in any conceivable way--it hurts your ambitions if anything.

-Jiggles-

I was saying I don't care if you doubt I know about evolution. :roll:

Yet I've seen you repeat this tactic with others in this thread and within past threads as well.

If you're not willing to put effort into your arguement(s), you shouldn't be arguing at all. It only diminishes the integrity of the cause or belief you support.

What tactic? I even highlighted what I was replying to. :roll:
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#206 -Jiggles-
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="Revinh"] I was saying I don't care if you doubt I know about evolution. :roll:Revinh

Yet I've seen you repeat this tactic with others in this thread and within past threads as well.

If you're not willing to put effort into your arguement(s), you shouldn't be arguing at all. It only diminishes the integrity of the cause or belief you support.

What tactic? I even highlighted what I was replying to. :roll:

The "I don't care about any arguement I cannot refute" tactic I've seen you pull so many times before. Your "HTML cannot evolve" discussion from a while back emphasized this; just pretend you don't care that proposed evidence contradicts your own and call the other person wrong without proving why.:roll:

If you have nothing to contribute to the topic (whether you say you care about it or not), I don't see why you're posting here. As for me, I have more willing posters to attend to.

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#207 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Yet I've seen you repeat this tactic with others in this thread and within past threads as well.

If you're not willing to put effort into your arguement(s), you shouldn't be arguing at all. It only diminishes the integrity of the cause or belief you support.

-Jiggles-

What tactic? I even highlighted what I was replying to. :roll:

The "I don't care about any arguement I cannot refute" tactic I've seen you pull so many times before. Your "HTML cannot evolve" discussion from a while back emphasized this; just pretend you don't care that proposed evidence contradicts your own and call the other person wrong without proving why.:roll:

If you have nothing to contribute to the topic (whether you say you care about it or not), I don't see why you're posting here. As for me, I have more willing posters to attend to.

You should cite specific posts and explain whatever it is you're saying 'cause I don't really get what tactic it is you say I've pulled...cause so far you're simply saying I've pulled it.
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#208 -Jiggles-
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="Revinh"] What tactic? I even highlighted what I was replying to. :roll:Revinh

The "I don't care about any arguement I cannot refute" tactic I've seen you pull so many times before. Your "HTML cannot evolve" discussion from a while back emphasized this; just pretend you don't care that proposed evidence contradicts your own and call the other person wrong without proving why.:roll:

If you have nothing to contribute to the topic (whether you say you care about it or not), I don't see why you're posting here. As for me, I have more willing posters to attend to.

You should cite specific posts and explain whatever it is you're saying 'cause I don't really get what tactic it is you say I've pulled...cause so far you're simply saying I've pulled it.

Oh, so now you care?:roll:

I never tagged the topic, but I'll give it a search come tomorrow morning. It's late here and I have academics to attend to in the morning.

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#209 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

The "I don't care about any arguement I cannot refute" tactic I've seen you pull so many times before. Your "HTML cannot evolve" discussion from a while back emphasized this; just pretend you don't care that proposed evidence contradicts your own and call the other person wrong without proving why.:roll:

If you have nothing to contribute to the topic (whether you say you care about it or not), I don't see why you're posting here. As for me, I have more willing posters to attend to.

-Jiggles-

You should cite specific posts and explain whatever it is you're saying 'cause I don't really get what tactic it is you say I've pulled...cause so far you're simply saying I've pulled it.

Oh, so now you care?:roll:

I never tagged the topic, but I'll give it a search come tomorrow morning. It's late here and I have academics to attend to in the morning.

Care about what? I don't even know what you say I care about. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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#210 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"][QUOTE="Revinh"] You should cite specific posts and explain whatever it is you're saying 'cause I don't really get what tactic it is you say I've pulled...cause so far you're simply saying I've pulled it.Revinh

Oh, so now you care?:roll:

I never tagged the topic, but I'll give it a search come tomorrow morning. It's late here and I have academics to attend to in the morning.

Care about what? I don't even know what you say I care about. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Okay, seriously, the eye-rolling is just getting stupid.

For reference, the topic to which Jiggles refers is entitled creation/intelligent design.

By the way, Revinh, I would encourage you to remove the "Did we evolve from apes?" blog from your profile. It offers no real evidence against evolution; it merely appeals to emotions, and is therefore completely unconvincing. Instead, I would encourage you, if you do not believe in evolution, to actually post a blog with legitimate reasons why, not simple pictures juxtaposing humans with apes and quotes from The Bible with "We just adapted differently." Also, please do not criticize me for telling you to do this. I am merely trying to help.

Oh, and, for the record, I personally think that evolution is the better explanation.

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#211 gobo212
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I don't like when people say they "believe" in evolution. You don't believe (or disbelieve) in the theory of gravity or relativity, you simply think they are the best explanation we have to explain the given facts or an alternative theory better explains them. There is no room for belief in science.
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#212 Guybrush_3
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@ Revinh, Your sig shows that your knowledge on evolution is limited at best, and yet you choose to bash something you obviously know very little about.
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#213 GTALoco
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Screw trying to figure stuff out...if I don't understand it, then clearly God did it. I know this is true cause the Bible says so.

*Covers ears with hands*

LALALALALALALALALALALALA

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#214 harashawn
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Screw trying to figure stuff out...if I don't understand it, then clearly God did it. I know this is true cause the Bible says so.

*Covers ears with hands*

LALALALALALALALALALALALA

GTALoco
You're so funny. :|
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#215 Fortier
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Damn I love threads where Revinh takes residence.

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#216 GTALoco
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[QUOTE="GTALoco"]

Screw trying to figure stuff out...if I don't understand it, then clearly God did it. I know this is true cause the Bible says so.

*Covers ears with hands*

LALALALALALALALALALALALA

harashawn

You're so funny. :|

And you're so sarcastic. Aren't we just a hoot?

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#217 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="GTALoco"]

Screw trying to figure stuff out...if I don't understand it, then clearly God did it. I know this is true cause the Bible says so.

*Covers ears with hands*

LALALALALALALALALALALALA

harashawn

You're so funny. :|

He's got a point.

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#218 harashawn
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And you're so sarcastic. Aren't we just a hoot?

GTALoco
I agree. We give this thread life.
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#219 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

Oh, so now you care?:roll:

I never tagged the topic, but I'll give it a search come tomorrow morning. It's late here and I have academics to attend to in the morning.

chessmaster1989

Care about what? I don't even know what you say I care about. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Okay, seriously, the eye-rolling is just getting stupid.

For reference, the topic to which Jiggles refers is entitled creation/intelligent design.

By the way, Revinh, I would encourage you to remove the "Did we evolve from apes?" blog from your profile. It offers no real evidence against evolution; it merely appeals to emotions, and is therefore completely unconvincing. Instead, I would encourage you, if you do not believe in evolution, to actually post a blog with legitimate reasons why, not simple pictures juxtaposing humans with apes and quotes from The Bible with "We just adapted differently." Also, please do not criticize me for telling you to do this. I am merely trying to help.

Oh, and, for the record, I personally think that evolution is the better explanation.

I know it's that thread, idk specifically what he's talking about. If you think "we just adapted differently" is good enough of an explanation to you as to why humans are different then it is to you. It's not to me, creation's is a better, more meaningful explanation. I don't really care if the blog doesn't convince other people. It's simply there to show one of the reasons why I believe / don't believe which, whether it "appeals to emotion" or whatever it is.
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#220 Guybrush_3
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I know it's that thread, idk specifically what he's talking about. If you think "we just adapted differently" is good enough of an explanation to you as to why humans are different then it is to you. It's not to me, creation's is a better, more meaningful explanation. I don't really care if the blog doesn't convince other people. It's simply there to show one of the reasons why I believe / don't believe which, whether it "appeals to emotion" or whatever it is.Revinh

The question "did we evolve from apes" shows that you have no credibility when speaking on evolution, because it shows that you don't know very much about it.

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#221 TheWakingArmy
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The third option in your poll is actually called Theistic Evolution.

For those curious, here's a rather simple definition.

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#222 Guybrush_3
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The third option in your poll is actually called Theistic Evolution.

For those curious, here's a rather simple definition.

TheWakingArmy

Because most scientists are atheistic

the bull **** that creationist spew is unbelievable.

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#223 Revinh
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@ Revinh, Your sig shows that your knowledge on evolution is limited at bestGuybrush_3
How so?
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#224 Guybrush_3
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]@ Revinh, Your sig shows that your knowledge on evolution is limited at bestRevinh
How so?

Evolution does not say that we evolved from apes.

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#225 Revinh
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Damn I love threads where Revinh takes residence.

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Thanks, assuming that was a compliment?
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#226 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]@ Revinh, Your sig shows that your knowledge on evolution is limited at bestGuybrush_3

How so?

Evolution does not say that we evolved from apes.

"Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."
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#227 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"] How so?Revinh

Evolution does not say that we evolved from apes.

"Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."

Apes and humans once shared a common ancestor. That common ancestor was probably neither in that case.

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#228 Red-XIII
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Evolution does not say that we evolved from apes.

Shad0ki11

"Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."

Apes and humans once shared a common ancestor. That common ancestor was probably neither in that case.


Well if you want to get real technical, humans are apes. We are part of the great ape family known as primates. The more you know!
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#229 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="Revinh"] "Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."Red-XIII

Apes and humans once shared a common ancestor. That common ancestor was probably neither in that case.


Well if you want to get real technical, humans are apes. We are part of the great ape family known as primates. The more you know!

Yeah true.

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#230 foxhound_fox
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The third option in your poll is actually called Theistic Evolution.

For those curious, here's a rather simple definition. TheWakingArmy

First line: "Theistic evolution is the belief that life on earth began and developed as described by modern evolution theory, directed by God."

Fail fail is fail.

Evolution does not explain the origin of life. Also, any scientist who is a member of the general, accepted community knows that mixing faith and science is impossible. Faith is something exclusive from science... and many scientists can have faith and still be rational scientists. They just have their own way of having a metaphysical belief and the ability to objectively analyze what they see.
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#231 Revinh
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[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

Evolution does not say that we evolved from apes.

Shad0ki11

"Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."

Apes and humans once shared a common ancestor. That common ancestor was probably neither in that case.

I wrote that too in my blog, it just shows GuyBrush3 didn't even read.
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#232 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="Revinh"] "Ape-like ancestors," whatever they were, you might as well call them "apes."Revinh

Apes and humans once shared a common ancestor. That common ancestor was probably neither in that case.

I wrote that too in my blog, it just shows GuyBrush3 didn't even read.

Read what? Your blog?

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#233 Guybrush_3
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Please don't tell me to study Human Evolution because my point is that a wide gap exists.

Revinhsblog

You must not have studied human evolution, (either that or you are ignoring what you have read)

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#234 Guybrush_3
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Human evolution tree in a nutshell

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#235 TheHolyDevil16
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Evolution...cuz it makes sense....for example god made flowers in dunno what day and after that the sun well dunno what u are thinkin but i know that a plant cant survive without sunlight....

and im wondering how the church always needs money well uhmm what god has no money?If he is almighty he could make money for churches and stuff like that....This bible **** is just a big lie....if u watched Zeitgeist u gonna understand what i mean ;)

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#236 sieg6529
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Evolution. The evidence supports it, and is ever-refined. Just because it hasn't been explained it, doesn't mean it must be attributed to a higher power (disease, geocentrism, and spontaneous generation come immediately to mind).