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#1 Slepanandiaz
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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

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#2 Luminouslight
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You ARE SOO WRONG!!!! We did not evolve from monkeys!!! Evolution states that we evolved from an ancestor of the monkey, we did not evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans evolved from that single "ancestor" which I forget what it is.
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I knew a monkey once who knew how to use spell check !
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I knew a monkey once who knew how to use spell check !Axed54
Sorry I just woke up
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#5 NathanHawkins
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Monkeys are quite mean. Believe me, I've known a few, and they don't take banana snatching lightly.
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You ARE SOO WRONG!!!! We did not evolve from monkeys!!! Evolution states that we evolved from an ancestor of the monkey, we did not evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans evolved from that single "ancestor" which I forget what it is.Luminouslight


Was it neanderthal.....or was that afterwards...
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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz
Is this sarcasm or something?
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#8 Luminouslight
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[QUOTE="Luminouslight"]You ARE SOO WRONG!!!! We did not evolve from monkeys!!! Evolution states that we evolved from an ancestor of the monkey, we did not evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans evolved from that single "ancestor" which I forget what it is.trust_nobody


Was it neanderthal.....or was that afterwards...

All I know is that monkeys and humans share a common ancestor, thats our only similarity with them.

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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

Why do people of such ignorance ask a question about something they don't even know the basics about.

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#10 Slepanandiaz
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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

quiglythegreat
Is this sarcasm or something?

No. :|
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

Is this sarcasm or something?

No. :|

Maybe you should actually read up on evolution before you even ask, because you have no idea what your talking about. :|

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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.

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#13 trust_nobody
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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

agilefalcon16

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?
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#14 quiglythegreat
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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz
Is this sarcasm or something?

No. :|

Well, this point's been brought up but we did not evolve from monkeys nor does anyone claim we did. That you do not know something that fundamental betrays your ignorance of the entire theory. You reject it as ridiculous immediately after innaccurately describing a major aspect of it in a serious way.
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#15 agilefalcon16
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[QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

trust_nobody

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

Yes, that is exactly what I was saying. :roll:

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[QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

trust_nobody

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

ProudLarry

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.

I think the Bible does, kinda.

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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Luminouslight

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.

I think the Bible does, kinda.

Point taken, but I was really just talking about anyone refering to Biological Evolution.

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#19 Slepanandiaz
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Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.
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If I remember correctly, Adam was made from dirt and Eva from one of his ribs, so it wasn't from thin air aither :)
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#21 Gog
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Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Slepanandiaz

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

ProudLarry

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.



I wasn't saying that either. But even in the theory of evolution, technically something had to be created.
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Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Slepanandiaz

You're no longer talking about Evolution though. Evolution does NOT explain how life began; it only explains the diversity and progression of life. Darwin's book was called 'On the Origin of Species', not 'On the Origin of Life'.

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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Gog

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

God does not abide by that rule. He can do anything.
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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Gog

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

I suppose this question will be met with 'God has always existed'.

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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.ProudLarry

You're no longer talking about Evolution though. Evolution does NOT explain how life began; it only explains the diversity and progression of life. Darwin's book was called 'On the Origin of Species', not 'On the Origin of Life'.



Well said.
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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

So you think that an almighty being that nobody can prove yet disprove created us out of his kind and loving heart, but will send us to eternal suffering if we don't believe in him based on ambiguous clues is more credible than monkeys adapting to their environment and surviving long enough to get laid, passing on these traits so that, hopefully, the offspring will survive long enough to get laid as well?

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Okay let me aks you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Slepanandiaz

I think you've got it backwards. Creationism should be the "midevil" belief that should have no place in schools. Oh, and FYI, it's spontaneous not "sponatnous". ;)

If I remember correctly, Adam was made from dirt and Eva from one of his ribs, so it wasn't from thin air aither :)Gog

Oh yes, now that sounds more believable. :roll:

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If you can accept such a statement without any indication of eveidence, I don't see how hard it can be to also accept that early forms of life formed by chance.
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[QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

trust_nobody

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.



I wasn't saying that either. But even in the theory of evolution, technically something had to be created.

But why should we assume that a super-natural force had anything to do with that, when there is a possiblity that it could have happened naturally?

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="ProudLarry"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="agilefalcon16"][QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]

I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

ProudLarry

Sounds more believable than being "created" out of thin air, or whatever BS the bible claims.



Are you saying it's easier to believe that monkeys were created out of thin air?

No one's ever said that monkies, or any life was created out of thin-air.



I wasn't saying that either. But even in the theory of evolution, technically something had to be created.

But why should we assume that a super-natural force had anything to do with that, when there is a possiblity that it could have happened naturally?



What could have happened naturally?
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The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

In the scientific context, a theory is NOT a guess. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Gog"]

[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Slepanandiaz

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

God does not abide by that rule. He can do anything.

LOL!!!!!!!!!! Is that what your priest tells you? :lol: There is not even a shread of evidence that would prove such an outrageous claim!

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The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

Gog


If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.
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[QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

trust_nobody



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific hypothesis on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...

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[QUOTE="Gog"]

[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.Slepanandiaz

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

God does not abide by that rule. He can do anything.

How can they teach the translations, interpretations and edits to a selection of aramaic scripts that has been proven without any scientific doubt to be rubbish and promotes an evil and vengeful super-being?

There is plenty of evidence being uncovered every day, from a variety of scientific disciplines that confirms evolution beyond any doubt. It also continues to provide great big holes in the chonology and credibility of events in the bible and koran.

Scientific method can evolve with understanding, unlike religion.

Why not put your belief in a box for a minute and have a look at some of the alternatives. You'll see that religious belief is only a personal comfort, covered in the ignorance and denial of meaningless scripture.

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[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"][QUOTE="Gog"]

[QUOTE="Slepanandiaz"]Okay let me ask you this without the help of God, how did life start? Life comes from life. Sponatnous generation is a midevil belief that has no place in schools.agilefalcon16

So how did God spontaniously generate then?

God does not abide by that rule. He can do anything.

LOL!!!!!!!!!! Is that what your priest tells you? :lol: There is not even a shread of evidence that would prove such an outrageous claim!

You have no proof that he can do anything he wants; you don't even know if he exists.

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

Salvy41



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific theory on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...



I agree. I don't understand why this topic is so black and white. If you believe evolution occurred outside of God's power, I don't necessarily disagree. However, you either believe God created what life evolved from, or you believe it appeared out of no where.
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I cant believe some people think that we come from monkeys! It's absolutely ridiculus! How can they teach this thoery (which is a thoery is a guess) in schools? Who agrees with me it should not be taught?

EDIT: Bad spelling

Slepanandiaz

Edit: Bad grammar. :lol:

No, we never came from monkeys. Evolution never says that. It says that we all came from a common ancestor. And you also don't know how a theory works, since you are using the colloquial version of it. A theory, in science, is not just a guess, its a conclusion drawn from lots of evidence, and it's tested many, many times by many other scientists before it is qualified as a scientific theory.

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[QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

trust_nobody



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

Not really. Life as we know it shares some basic components which are made of chemical structures that werelargely availablein the early earth. By chance and over periods of millions of yearsthey combined into stable structuresand becameearly life. This process has likely not happened once, but dozens of times. One or two succesful forms wiped out all the others.

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

Gog



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

Not really. Life as we know it shares some basic components which are made of chemical structures that werelargely availablein the early earth. By chance and over periods of millions of yearsthey combined into stable structuresand becameearly life. This process has likely not happened once, but dozens of times. One or two succesful forms wiped out all the others.



I believe you. lol I haven't disagreed with anyone. I just don't understand why it has to be religion OR evolution.
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I don't know the theory fully, so I dunno if it really teaches that we come from the monkeys or a common ancestor, but you can't deny the many obvious similarities between monkeys and man, especially in DNA.
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[QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

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If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific theory on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...



I agree. I don't understand why this topic is so black and white. If you believe evolution occurred outside of God's power, I don't necessarily disagree. However, you either believe God created what life evolved from, or you believe it appeared out of no where.

Out of nowhere? More like out of organic molecules.

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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

Salvy41



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific theory on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...



I agree. I don't understand why this topic is so black and white. If you believe evolution occurred outside of God's power, I don't necessarily disagree. However, you either believe God created what life evolved from, or you believe it appeared out of no where.

Out of nowhere? More like out of organic molecules.



And these molecules came from....? See we can do this all day long, you're not wrong and you can't prove me wrong either.
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[QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

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If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

We know that amino acids and and other organic molecules that are the building blocks of life can be created naturally. Although we've never been able to create RNA or DNA in the lab, it doesn't neccessarily mean that it was impossible. It may just mean we need to refine our hypotheses and experiments.

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[QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

trust_nobody



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific theory on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...



I agree. I don't understand why this topic is so black and white. If you believe evolution occurred outside of God's power, I don't necessarily disagree. However, you either believe God created what life evolved from, or you believe it appeared out of no where.

Out of nowhere? More like out of organic molecules.



And these molecules came from....? See we can do this all day long, you're not wrong and you can't prove me wrong either.


Well now you're talking about the origin of all matter, not life.
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[QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Salvy41"][QUOTE="trust_nobody"][QUOTE="Gog"]

The creation of life. What is life in the first place? I doubt anyone here can give an accurate definition of what life is. How can you say it's impossible if you can't even define what life is?

Salvy41



If you are talking to me saying the creation of life happened naturally, then it sounds like we are back to the out-of-thin-air deal.

There is no current scientific theory on the origin of life which suggests that life came into existence naturally merely by 'appearing' out of 'thin air'...



I agree. I don't understand why this topic is so black and white. If you believe evolution occurred outside of God's power, I don't necessarily disagree. However, you either believe God created what life evolved from, or you believe it appeared out of no where.

Out of nowhere? More like out of organic molecules.



And these molecules came from....? See we can do this all day long, you're not wrong and you can't prove me wrong either.


Well now you're talking about the origin of all matter, not life.



Yes. That's what I have been trying to say.
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And these molecules came from....? See we can do this all day long, you're not wrong and you can't prove me wrong either.trust_nobody

Not at all. Scientific method can ascribe causality to creation of long chain molecules and their evolution. Religion can provide no proof.

Scientific method suggests positive proof is required. Prooving something does not exist is futile - i.e. a pink teapot spinning round the earth. Science searches for true answers, while religion assumes it already has them but refuses to question them.

The origins of organised religion are so dubious and the burden of religious proof is impossible. Or do you believe in magic too?