Explosion in Oslo, Norway. Terrorist Attack. 90+ Dead.

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Police press conference right now. 10 killed in Oslo from the explosion.
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#152 The_Last_Ride
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Police press conference right now. 10 killed in Oslo from the explosion. trasherhead
no, from the shooting
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#153 trasherhead
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Correction: 7 killed in Oslo by explosion, 9-10 killed at Utøya by gunman.

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#154 horgen  Moderator
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Ah, only people who are already listed as blood donors are asked to give blood.
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#155 trasherhead
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Ah, only people who are already listed as blood donors are asked to give blood. horgen123
Yeah, I saw that it takes time to clear new donors. Makes sense, got to get enough into oslo asap. :/
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#156 trasherhead
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Police believe that this attack was NOT by a international terrorist organization, rather a local group who oppose the current government and political system. The police has knowledge about the group the gun-man is connected to.
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#157 ToppledPillars
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It is rumoured that this was all done by one man!! Eye-witnesses are also say it was a tall, blond, Nordic man!! Don't know if this was already posted so don't string me up pls!!

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It is rumoured that this was all done by one man!! Eye-witnesses are also say it was a tall, blond, Nordic man!! Don't know if this was already posted so don't string me up pls!!

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It would make sense, since it has been described as just one person in both instances. If he was with a larger group, I would expect them to send multiple gunmen to the camp to maximize fatalities.
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It is rumoured that this was all done by one man!! Eye-witnesses are also say it was a tall, blond, Nordic man!! Don't know if this was already posted so don't string me up pls!!

ToppledPillars
The fake police officer has been reported seen in the area where the bomb went off before it happened. Seems targeted at the leading party in Norway, the Labour party.
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#160 MushroomWig
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Why can't we all just get along?
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#161 Netherscourge
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Like I said, it's Timothy McVeigh all over again.

A native citizen, disgruntled with the government, bent on killing innocent people based on a delusional agenda.

Now the question is - who helped him? Even McVeigh had a couple people help him out.

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I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentance
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#163 horgen  Moderator
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An article from a Norwegian news site posted in English
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I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceThe_Last_Ride

21 years for serial killers too?

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I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceThe_Last_Ride

What a whimpy country then....

He needs to be hanged. :/

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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceNetherscourge

21 years for serial killers too?

Some countries do that. I remember in New Zealand back in 2000 that a life sentence essentially meant you'd spend 14 years in jail. The reason -- it was too costly to keep one person in jail for longer than that.

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#167 Solid_Tango
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Yeah i ve heard this new when i was at work, i live 20 mins from Oslo, who was behind the attacks and why?
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I'd bet money it was a certain religious group.....

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Buddhist monks probably.

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I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceThe_Last_Ride
You can get more... Forvaring. I think it called. If that is chosen, he has to be considered safe again before he is released. Which is judged every 5th or 10th year...
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#171 Communistik
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Could it have been a big gas leak? Those things can get massive and level buildings.

Wasdie

No. A radical Islamic group already claimed responsibility. (I only read the first page of this thread. I'm sure this has already been brought up).

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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentancehorgen123
You can get more... Forvaring. I think it called. If that is chosen, he has to be considered safe again before he is released. Which is judged every 5th or 10th year...

Who did it!????
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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceStorm_Marine

What a whimpy country then....

He needs to be hanged. :/

The American system is about punishment, the Nordic is more about rehabilitation!! I prefer that over killing people!! HAHAHAHA
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceSolid_Tango
You can get more... Forvaring. I think it called. If that is chosen, he has to be considered safe again before he is released. Which is judged every 5th or 10th year...

Who did it!????

The guy that went on the shooting spree is in custody so we'll find out soon enough.
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#176 Solid_Tango
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[QUOTE="DanC1989"][QUOTE="Solid_Tango"][QUOTE="horgen123"] You can get more... Forvaring. I think it called. If that is chosen, he has to be considered safe again before he is released. Which is judged every 5th or 10th year...

Who did it!????

The guy that went on the shooting spree is in custody so we'll find out soon enough.

Who went on a shooting spree? wasnt there only a bomb in the building?
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Or maybe it hasn't been brought up...

"A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, according to Mr. McCants' translation, apparently referring to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

EDIT: Yes, they might be lying, but it has been their goal recently to recruit "western-looking" individuals to carry out their missions. It wouldn't be surprising if that were the case here.

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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceSolid_Tango
You can get more... Forvaring. I think it called. If that is chosen, he has to be considered safe again before he is released. Which is judged every 5th or 10th year...

Who did it!????

The police have a Norwegian looking guy in custody(or what it is called again).

Witness say a guy dressed as a police fired a gun at Utøya, same person has been seen in Oslo before the explosion.

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Or maybe it hasn't been brought up...

"A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces' presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad. "We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations," the group said, according to Mr. McCants' translation, apparently referring to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. "What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come." The claim could not be confirmed. It is not uncommon for terrorist groups to advance claims of responsibility for high-profile attacks, only to have the claims prove to be spurious."

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=2&hp

Communistik
It has been brought up.
I hope Varg vikernes and Fenriz are okimaps3fanboy
Yeah that is very important... [QUOTE="Solid_Tango"] Who went on a shooting spree? wasnt there only a bomb in the building?

Bomb and shooting.
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#180 DanC1989
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Yeah the shooting was on Utoya island where the annual Labour Party Youth Camp was taking place.
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I swear, if Varg did this..
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Sadly, I'm hardly surprised.

I've been expecting another false flag attack in a NATO country ever since Western news media speciously reported that Gaddafi had threatened retaliatory strikes on the countries arrayed against him.

I wonder who is behind the Norway attacks. I'd say it's a (not necessarily proper) subset of ...

- The CIA

- Mossad

- Elements within Norway's own government

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#183 trasherhead
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Some good news, the hospitals in the area now has more then enough blood donors and people are being turned away cause they don't have capacity to handle more. This will save lives. This is only a few hours after the hospitals requested donors.
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I swear, if Varg did this..imaps3fanboy
Norwegian black metal music will never be the same?
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#185 DanC1989
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Sadly, I'm hardly surprised.

I've been expecting another false flag attack in a NATO country ever since Western news media speciously reported that Gaddafi had threatened retaliatory strikes on the countries arrayed against him.

I wonder who is behind the Norway attacks. I'd say it's a (not necessarily proper) subset of ...

- The CIA

- Mossad

- Elements within Norway's own government

Stesilaus
Was 9/11 a false flag op too?
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[QUOTE="imaps3fanboy"]I swear, if Varg did this..horgen123
Norwegian black metal music will never be the same?

It will be like this:

FOREVER

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceToppledPillars

What a whimpy country then....

He needs to be hanged. :/

The American system is about punishment, the Nordic is more about rehabilitation!! I prefer that over killing people!! HAHAHAHA

That's so sweet of them.

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#188 horgen  Moderator
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It will be like this:

FOREVER

Solid_Tango
Oh god. Not him, please no :cry:

That's so sweet of them.

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Sarcasm?
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#189 ToppledPillars
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Terror groups don't typically go after political targets!! Though I suppose it should not be ruled out!!
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#190 ToppledPillars
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[QUOTE="ToppledPillars"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

What a whimpy country then....

He needs to be hanged. :/

Storm_Marine

The American system is about punishment, the Nordic is more about rehabilitation!! I prefer that over killing people!! HAHAHAHA

That's so sweet of them.

It tends to work for them!!
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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]I just don't hope this guy will come out of jail for the rest of his life, our strictest punishment is 21 years in jail. I hope they make an exception and make it a life sentanceNetherscourge

21 years for serial killers too?

yeah pretty much. You can get what we call "forvaring". But it never gets extended to life

- The CIA

- Mossad

- Elements within Norway's own government

Stesilaus
Now that is what i would say impossible, the goverment doesn't work that way here. They are way more open then most countries
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I was shocked when I heard about it, first thing I did was to call my relatives there and find out if they were ok, they were :)
But it seems like this is an attack against the government and the labour party, it also seemed pretty organized.
I dont think this was done by islamists, they probably just want the opportunity to brag abouth things they haven`t done.

I dont think there are any final confirmed death tolls, but it keeps increasing, yet very low considering the fact that it was kind of a huge explosion.
Anyway, my heart goes out to my family, friends and countrymen in Oslo.

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I was shocked when I heard about it, first thing I did was to call my relatives there and find out if they were ok, they were :)
But it seems like this is an attack against the government and the labour party, it also seemed pretty organized.
I dont think this was done by islamists, they probably just want the opportunity to brag abouth things they haven`t done.

I dont think there are any final confirmed death tolls, but it keeps increasing, yet very low considering the fact that it was kind of a huge explosion.
Anyway, my heart goes out to my family, friends and countrymen in Oslo.

Toadso

it's vacation here now, might be why. This is a huge disaster for Norway, there has not been anything like this in at least 60 years here

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The guy they have is Norwegian...
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#195 Toadso
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[QUOTE="Toadso"]

I was shocked when I heard about it, first thing I did was to call my relatives there and find out if they were ok, they were :)
But it seems like this is an attack against the government and the labour party, it also seemed pretty organized.
I dont think this was done by islamists, they probably just want the opportunity to brag abouth things they haven`t done.

I dont think there are any final confirmed death tolls, but it keeps increasing, yet very low considering the fact that it was kind of a huge explosion.
Anyway, my heart goes out to my family, friends and countrymen in Oslo.

The_Last_Ride

it's vacation here now, might be why. This is a huge disaster for Norway, there has not been anything like this in at least 60 years here

Yeah, biggest thing since WWII I guess. It is pretty serious, us Norwegians arn`t used to this! :(

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#196 Toadso
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The guy they have is Norwegian... horgen123
Perhaps someone snapped and went on a rampage? Hard to believe though if it was the same man who was behind the bomb/s in Oslo, seemed planned. Anti-government activists perhaps??
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[QUOTE="horgen123"]The guy they have is Norwegian... Toadso
Perhaps someone snapped and went on a rampage? Hard to believe though if it was the same man who was behind the bomb/s in Oslo, seemed planned. Anti-government activists perhaps??

The media reports at least that the same guy has been sighted in the area the bomb where in, before it exploded.
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wherever is peace, terrorist will attack
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well at least no one is deadweezyfb

17 died :(

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So explosives have been found at Utøya, where the shooting was.