Fat-Pride is Stupid
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I think you guys are missing the point where I said don't ridicule fat people until you know their situation. If you KNOW they are fat and still living poorly, still being lazy and apathetic, go ahead and berate them. But if you don't know, or know that they are currently losing weight and trying to live healthier lives, you have no room to make fun of them. Making fun of someone because they haven't yet reached their goals, even though they are constantly improving their life, really reverses the situation. Instead of them being the people to make fun of, you deserve to be made fun of for being so idiotic and plain childish. That is, of course, if making fun of people can ever NOT be childish.Manly-manly-manAgreed, people shouldn't ridicule anyone without knowing their situation. I went through the same state of being overweight and the ridicule did not help. People need support not humiliation and making fun of a person makes you a child in comparison to others.
Being rediculed is what drove me to become a ripped man beast. It is good encouragement.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"] Does that mean they should be ridiculed?MrGeezer
If you actually value being ripped as being more important than stuff like contributing to the community.
Hey kids, stop sitting on your ass studying genetics in the hopes of one day improving humanity. Put down those books and go to the gym instead!
Being ripped and being smart aren't mutually exclusive. You can be both.Being rediculed is what drove me to become a ripped man beast. It is good encouragement.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"] Does that mean they should be ridiculed?MrGeezer
If you actually value being ripped as being more important than stuff like contributing to the community.
Hey kids, stop sitting on your ass studying genetics in the hopes of one day improving humanity. Put down those books and go to the gym instead!
It takes 1 hour and 30 minutes a day for an effective workout. Less if you are just trying to be fit and not look like a "ripped man beast". I can finish two full (24-27 sets, 8-10 reps per set) workouts in 45 minutes (depending on the muscle groups I'm working; Biceps and Triceps are quick workouts). It doesn't take much to get in better shape. I started working out and my grades IMPROVED because I managed my time to incorporate a workout 5 days a week. And it's really dumb to assume that Americans are fat because they are "studying" when our education system is awful and our communities are disjointed at best. People are fat because they don't want to do what it takes to be healthy. Some have genetic problems, but mostly it's just laziness.That's impossible, because not everyone is fat due to over eating and/or lack of exercise. Like all ignorance, people apply a large group of people to one stereotype. If you try to get everyone who's fat to lose weight (through forceful means, as you suggested), it's not very fair to those who have conditions that make it impossible to do so. It would be much more logical (and less dick-ish) to just try to raise awareness of how unhealthy some food is, and to promote exercise and portion control (as many are already doing, i.e., "Supersize Me").Darth_Tyrev
Those who have conditions that make it impossible to do so? Do you know how rare such conditions are? The amount of people with such "conditions" is so small it's not even worth mentioning when talking about fat people.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Being rediculed is what drove me to become a ripped man beast. It is good encouragement.Vandalvideo
If you actually value being ripped as being more important than stuff like contributing to the community.
Hey kids, stop sitting on your ass studying genetics in the hopes of one day improving humanity. Put down those books and go to the gym instead!
Being ripped and being smart aren't mutually exclusive. You can be both.Yeah, and being fat and productive aren't mutually exclusive either. Claiming that fat people are all lazy unproductive dirtbags is JUST as stupid as claiming that good looking people are all egotistical idiots.
And having said that, anyone who thinks that fat people are worthy of ridicule regardless of how hard-working they may be or how much they contribute to society is really deserving of my contempt. As I said before, fat people are just fat. But the people ridiculing them to be JERKS. As far as which type of person I think is deserving of my respect, it's the fat person every single time.
[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"] And you completely missed the point of what I just said. Being fat is (generally) the fault of the person, yes. But you cannot know how fat the person used to be. You missed the part about making fun of a 250lbs person when for all you know he could've lost 100lbs already. And because of that, a fat person is not necessarily ignorant to any facts, apathetic, or lazy, and therefore if you berate a fat person without knowing their current and past situation, you run the chance of making yourself an ass.Manly-manly-manA fat person is fat because a fat person is fat. They had to get there somehow. Whether or not they've lost 100lbs doesn't change the fact that they're 70lbs overweight. They got there because of their own laziness and unhealthy lifestyle. Does that mean they should be ridiculed? Yes, unless it's a genetic problem. If they're just fat because they sit on their asses all day they should be ridiculed.
Yeah, and being fat and productive aren't mutually exclusive either. Claiming that fat people are all lazy unproductive dirtbags is JUST as stupid as claiming that good looking people are all egotistical idiots.And having said that, anyone who thinks that fat people are worthy of ridicule regardless of how hard-working they may be or how much they contribute to society is really deserving of my contempt. As I said before, fat people are just fat. But the people ridiculing them to be JERKS. As far as which type of person I think is deserving of my respect, it's the fat person every single time.MrGeezerFat people aren't able to be as productive as healthy people. Its just a matter of their natural aptittudes and abilities as an extension of the training and health that they've received. Being completely unhealthy will generate less productivity and put a strain on the healthcare system. . As someone who used to be an extremely fat kid growing up, I make it a conscientous effort to inform people that they need to go out and walk/run some.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Being rediculed is what drove me to become a ripped man beast. It is good encouragement.fat_rob
If you actually value being ripped as being more important than stuff like contributing to the community.
Hey kids, stop sitting on your ass studying genetics in the hopes of one day improving humanity. Put down those books and go to the gym instead!
It takes 1 hour and 30 minutes a day for an effective workout. Less if you are just trying to be fit and not look like a "ripped man beast". I can finish two full (24-27 sets, 8-10 reps per set) workouts in 45 minutes (depending on the muscle groups I'm working; Biceps and Triceps are quick workouts). It doesn't take much to get in better shape. I started working out and my grades IMPROVED because I managed my time to incorporate a workout 5 days a week. And it's really dumb to assume that Americans are fat because they are "studying" when our education system is awful and our communities are disjointed at best. People are fat because they don't want to do what it takes to be healthy. Some have genetic problems, but mostly it's just laziness.Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilities.
Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilitiesMrGeezerI'm sure everyone on here can find an horu and 30 minutes to go exercise. I mean I've met plenty of overweight people who keep telling me "I don't have time to work out". Turn off House and go outside.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Yeah, and being fat and productive aren't mutually exclusive either. Claiming that fat people are all lazy unproductive dirtbags is JUST as stupid as claiming that good looking people are all egotistical idiots.And having said that, anyone who thinks that fat people are worthy of ridicule regardless of how hard-working they may be or how much they contribute to society is really deserving of my contempt. As I said before, fat people are just fat. But the people ridiculing them to be JERKS. As far as which type of person I think is deserving of my respect, it's the fat person every single time.VandalvideoFat people aren't able to be as productive as healthy people. Its just a matter of their natural aptittudes and abilities as an extension of the training and health that they've received. Being completely unhealthy will generate less productivity and put a strain on the healthcare system. . As someone who used to be an extremely fat kid growing up, I make it a conscientous effort to inform people that they need to go out and walk/run some.
Bull****, dude. If you really think they're somehow going to be MORE productive by spending hours a day lifting weights at the gym, then your idea of "productive" is WAY out of step with reality.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilitiesVandalvideoI'm sure everyone on here can find an horu and 30 minutes to go exercise. I mean I've met plenty of overweight people who keep telling me "I don't have time to work out". Turn off House and go outside. Yeah, I don't see how people just can't go to bed earlier (don't stay up watching TV) get up a half hour early, then just run a half hour. That's what I started doing earlier in 08 and after about two weeks it didn't even bother me.
Bull****, dude. If you really think they're somehow going to be MORE productive by spending hours a day lifting weights at the gym, then your idea of "productive" is WAY out of step with reality.MrGeezerPeople who are not fat can perform more strenuous tasks for longer periods of time and increase their work load. I mean I pump out way too much work at my job and my supervisor just keeps staring at me saying, "I uhh...don't have any more work for you to do today".
[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]It takes 1 hour and 30 minutes a day for an effective workout. Less if you are just trying to be fit and not look like a "ripped man beast". I can finish two full (24-27 sets, 8-10 reps per set) workouts in 45 minutes (depending on the muscle groups I'm working; Biceps and Triceps are quick workouts). It doesn't take much to get in better shape. I started working out and my grades IMPROVED because I managed my time to incorporate a workout 5 days a week. And it's really dumb to assume that Americans are fat because they are "studying" when our education system is awful and our communities are disjointed at best. People are fat because they don't want to do what it takes to be healthy. Some have genetic problems, but mostly it's just laziness.If you actually value being ripped as being more important than stuff like contributing to the community.
Hey kids, stop sitting on your ass studying genetics in the hopes of one day improving humanity. Put down those books and go to the gym instead!
MrGeezer
Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilities.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilitiesVandalvideoI'm sure everyone on here can find an horu and 30 minutes to go exercise. I mean I've met plenty of overweight people who keep telling me "I don't have time to work out". Turn off House and go outside.
A lot of fat people get quite a bit of exercise. The fact that you think otherwise clearly shows that you don't know what you're talking about.
Of course it's always possible to exercise MORE, at the expense of OTHER stuff. Stuff that's often, like, IMPORTANT. For you to claim that fat people should let other stuff slide in order to squeeze in more exercise is pretty ridiculous. For someone with a busy schedule, WHY should someone who is only slightly fat even VALUE the additional weight that he loses at the expense of more important things?
I'm sure everyone on here can find an horu and 30 minutes to go exercise. I mean I've met plenty of overweight people who keep telling me "I don't have time to work out". Turn off House and go outside.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilitiesMrGeezer
A lot of fat people get quite a bit of exercise. The fact that you think otherwise clearly shows that you don't know what you're talking about.
Of course it's always possible to exercise MORE, at the expense of OTHER stuff. Stuff that's often, like, IMPORTANT. For you to claim that fat people should let other stuff slide in order to squeeze in more exercise is pretty ridiculous. For someone with a busy schedule, WHY should someone who is only slightly fat even VALUE the additional weight that he loses at the expense of more important things?
Like TV time! I don't want to lose time watching TV D: /sarcasmI'm sure everyone on here can find an horu and 30 minutes to go exercise. I mean I've met plenty of overweight people who keep telling me "I don't have time to work out". Turn off House and go outside.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilitiesMrGeezer
A lot of fat people get quite a bit of exercise. The fact that you think otherwise clearly shows that you don't know what you're talking about.
Of course it's always possible to exercise MORE, at the expense of OTHER stuff. Stuff that's often, like, IMPORTANT. For you to claim that fat people should let other stuff slide in order to squeeze in more exercise is pretty ridiculous. For someone with a busy schedule, WHY should someone who is only slightly fat even VALUE the additional weight that he loses at the expense of more important things?
I'd love to hear what is more important than one's health. :|A lot of fat people get quite a bit of exercise. The fact that you think otherwise clearly shows that you don't know what you're talking about.Of course it's always possible to exercise MORE, at the expense of OTHER stuff. Stuff that's often, like, IMPORTANT. For you to claim that fat people should let other stuff slide in order to squeeze in more exercise is pretty ridiculous. For someone with a busy schedule, WHY should someone who is only slightly fat even VALUE the additional weight that he loses at the expense of more important things? MrGeezerThe process of getting fat is very simple; you consume more than you burn. There isn't some magical fairy that makes you fat. Fat makes you fat. If you're eating a lot, exercising a little, and staying fat its your own fault. I mean on my average day I run 2 miles, which takes all of 10 minutes at my current pace. Quick, painless, and burns 300-400 calories. An average person of my age and height burns 1.8K calories a day in a rested state. So I need to eat 2.2K calories a day to stay where I am, less to get leaner, more to build up bulk. It is very simple. Exercise is not hard.
Fat people are fat because they live an unhealthy life style, in other words they eat unhealthy and they don't work out much. If a person wants to be fat, that is fine for him/her, but if that fat person wants to be thin then he/she is just plain lazy.(oh and yes I'm a lazy person, but not when it comes to workout and nutrition though) There's just no denial, that is a fact, regardless of genes and social status. (and please don't mention those extremely rare cases of people who can't lose weight because of a syndrome and what not, that is just irrelevant)
Oh and for those of you who have tried to start working out, i.e running or whatnot and lost little weight if any. Here's what your brilliant mind missed, you see when you work out your body needs more nutrition, i.e you become more hungry. In other words, if you didn't change your "diet" you ate more food when you worked out, unhealthy food, and the workout naturally didn't help you much, because your calorie intake/outtake ratio didn't change much. To lose weight you simply have to burn more calories than you consume.
damn...you run a 5 min mile...that's pretty good :lol: I struggle to do a sub-6 minute, but still running two miles at a jogging pace only takes like 20 minutes...the time excuse is pure BS. fat_robYou gotta run fast to be a soccer player :o. I also rounded a little. My mile is more like 5.24
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="fat_rob"] It takes 1 hour and 30 minutes a day for an effective workout. Less if you are just trying to be fit and not look like a "ripped man beast". I can finish two full (24-27 sets, 8-10 reps per set) workouts in 45 minutes (depending on the muscle groups I'm working; Biceps and Triceps are quick workouts). It doesn't take much to get in better shape. I started working out and my grades IMPROVED because I managed my time to incorporate a workout 5 days a week. And it's really dumb to assume that Americans are fat because they are "studying" when our education system is awful and our communities are disjointed at best. People are fat because they don't want to do what it takes to be healthy. Some have genetic problems, but mostly it's just laziness. fat_rob
Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilities.
Dude, I know people who can't even fit in enough time to get more than four hours of SLEEP a night. I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything. To suggest that the average person just has loads and loads of free time is simply ridiculous. And that's not even bringing in the kinds of time that people have to devote to things like raising their damn kids. In that scheme of things, being 20 pounds overweight is insignificant.
[QUOTE="fat_rob"]damn...you run a 5 min mile...that's pretty good :lol: I struggle to do a sub-6 minute, but still running two miles at a jogging pace only takes like 20 minutes...the time excuse is pure BS. VandalvideoYou gotta run fast to be a soccer player :o. I also rounded a little. My mile is more like 5.24 I play Rugby, so I should be faster, but my team is only in D3 so it's not a big deal. Plus, I just started getting in shape about 1.5 years ago...I used to be 5'7'' 245lbs. So my long distance running endurance isn't what it could be if I had actually gotten healthier earlier in life. My sprint endurance is pretty good though
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]A lot of fat people get quite a bit of exercise. The fact that you think otherwise clearly shows that you don't know what you're talking about.Of course it's always possible to exercise MORE, at the expense of OTHER stuff. Stuff that's often, like, IMPORTANT. For you to claim that fat people should let other stuff slide in order to squeeze in more exercise is pretty ridiculous. For someone with a busy schedule, WHY should someone who is only slightly fat even VALUE the additional weight that he loses at the expense of more important things? VandalvideoThe process of getting fat is very simple; you consume more than you burn. There isn't some magical fairy that makes you fat. Fat makes you fat. If you're eating a lot, exercising a little, and staying fat its your own fault. I mean on my average day I run 2 miles, which takes all of 10 minutes at my current pace. Quick, painless, and burns 300-400 calories. An average person of my age and height burns 1.8K calories a day in a rested state. So I need to eat 2.2K calories a day to stay where I am, less to get leaner, more to build up bulk. It is very simple. Exercise is not hard.
Yeah, because EVERYONE can run a 5 minute mile. :roll:
I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything.MrGeezerActually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.
Yeah, because EVERYONE can run a 5 minute mile. :roll:MrGeezerThen jog an 8-10 minute mile or walk a 20 minute mile. Heck, strap some leg weights on you and do soem squats while you're typing documents.
[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]Yeah, even when I had three jobs over the summer, I found time to work out for LONGER periods of time. It's about priorities dude. I woke up early and worked out and worked out again before bed. I, however, was going for a specific look, for people just trying to stay a fit, all they need is a 35-45 minute workout that mixes cardio and weights. Once they get in better shape, they'll be able to shave the time down to 25-30 minutes. Hell...there are 300 push-up + 300 sit up routines that only take 20 minutes. Time is NO excuse for not exercising. Put a pull up bar in you're bedroom door way and do 10 pull ups every time you enter bed room. Do push ups before showering in the morning and evening. Do extensive cardio on the weekends. The time excuse is BS in most cases, people just don't want to work out.Jesus Christ, you actually have enough time to work out for an hour and 30 minutes a day? Most of the people I know spend most of their days WORKING and juggling their various other responsibilities.
MrGeezer
Dude, I know people who can't even fit in enough time to get more than four hours of SLEEP a night. I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything. To suggest that the average person just has loads and loads of free time is simply ridiculous. And that's not even bringing in the kinds of time that people have to devote to things like raising their damn kids. In that scheme of things, being 20 pounds overweight is insignificant.
To suggest that the average person works so much that they can't even get 4 hours of sleep is ludicrous. The average American has MORE than enough time to workout for at least 30 minutes a day.damn...you run a 5 min mile...that's pretty good :lol: I struggle to do a sub-6 minute, but still running two miles at a jogging pace only takes like 20 minutes...the time excuse is pure BS. fat_rob
Yeah, I agree.
Also gaining some muscle can really help you lose weight, as every pound of muscle burns quite a lot of calories. Also an even better way to lose weight, is to change your eating habits. Working out is 70% nutrition, and if you want to lose weight you need to consume less unhealthy fat and carbs and more proteins.
fat pride..haha
but seriously they can do whatever they want its there life. i hope to lose some pounds that i gained a christmas.
[QUOTE="fat_rob"]damn...you run a 5 min mile...that's pretty good :lol: I struggle to do a sub-6 minute, but still running two miles at a jogging pace only takes like 20 minutes...the time excuse is pure BS. Dark-Sithious
Yeah, I agree.
Also gaining some muscle can really help you lose weight, as every pound of muscle burns quite a lot of calories. Also an even better way to lose weight, is to change your eating habits. Working out is 70% nutrition, and if you want to lose weight you need to consume less unhealthy fat and carbs and more proteins.
Yep...eating healthy is cheaper too[QUOTE="Dark-Sithious"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]damn...you run a 5 min mile...that's pretty good :lol: I struggle to do a sub-6 minute, but still running two miles at a jogging pace only takes like 20 minutes...the time excuse is pure BS. fat_rob
Yeah, I agree.
Also gaining some muscle can really help you lose weight, as every pound of muscle burns quite a lot of calories. Also an even better way to lose weight, is to change your eating habits. Working out is 70% nutrition, and if you want to lose weight you need to consume less unhealthy fat and carbs and more proteins.
Yep...eating healthy is cheaper tooWell, here in Norway healthy food is actually more expensive, but that's no excuse not to eat healthy as the differences aren't that big.
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"] I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything.VandalvideoActually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.
Hmm, you're saying that people working their asses of can actually CONTRIBUTE to them getting fat?
Sort of contradicts the silly claim that all fat people are lazy.
Fact, a lot of people work LONG hours at jobs that REQUIRE them to sit on their asses all day. These people them come home to raise the damn kids, get very little sleep (hey, hasn't not getting enough sleep also been shown to contribute to obesity?), and then get right up and repeat that same routine every single day. I know it's hard for people who visit a videogame website to comprehend, but there are a hell of a lot of fat people whose lives consist pretty much entirely of WORK. They don't have time to watch TV, they don't have time to play videogames, and they certainly don't have time to freaking lift weights for 30 minutes a day. A lot of fat people would consider YOU AND I lazy for having the time to sit on our asses and waste time having this discussion.
Actually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything.MrGeezer
Hmm, you're saying that people working their asses of can actually CONTRIBUTE to them getting fat?
Sort of contradicts the silly claim that all fat people are lazy.
Fact, a lot of people work LONG hours at jobs that REQUIRE them to sit on their asses all day. These people them come home to raise the damn kids, get very little sleep (hey, hasn't not getting enough sleep also been shown to contribute to obesity?), and then get right up and repeat that same routine every single day. I know it's hard for people who visit a videogame website to comprehend, but there are a hell of a lot of fat people whose lives consist pretty much entirely of WORK. They don't have time to watch TV, they don't have time to play videogames, and they certainly don't have time to freaking lift weights for 30 minutes a day. A lot of fat people would consider YOU AND I lazy for having the time to sit on our asses and waste time having this discussion.
Working alot does not excuse you from getting the necessary nutrition. Make some sandwhiches for crying out loud. Every weekday I wake up at 6:00 AM and work until noon. From 12:30 to 7:00 I have classes at college. The most ammount of time I get for a break between all this is the 30 minutes that I have to DRIVE to my college from my place of work. I don't have any time to eat all day long, but I still manage to get my required nutrition. All it takes is making some sandwhiches before hand and eating them as you do your job. It is very easy to do. You have NO EXCUSE for getting the required food intact. I also find it highly unlikely that there are people out there that don't have even 10 minutes available to work out every day. If someone like me who works for important people finds the time to get a workout in while maintaining a 4.0 average, then these lazy ingrates can. And just to prove ap oint, I jogged a 10 minute mile while coughing up vomit just now from the flu. If you can't do that there is something seriously wrong with your health.Actually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"] I know people who work so much that the only reason they're not fat is because they barely have time to even EAT anything.MrGeezer
Hmm, you're saying that people working their asses of can actually CONTRIBUTE to them getting fat?
Sort of contradicts the silly claim that all fat people are lazy.
Fact, a lot of people work LONG hours at jobs that REQUIRE them to sit on their asses all day. These people them come home to raise the damn kids, get very little sleep (hey, hasn't not getting enough sleep also been shown to contribute to obesity?), and then get right up and repeat that same routine every single day. I know it's hard for people who visit a videogame website to comprehend, but there are a hell of a lot of fat people whose lives consist pretty much entirely of WORK. They don't have time to watch TV, they don't have time to play videogames, and they certainly don't have time to freaking lift weights for 30 minutes a day. A lot of fat people would consider YOU AND I lazy for having the time to sit on our asses and waste time having this discussion.
Don't have time for 30 minutes a day? That's a crap load of utter BS. And if that's true then poor kids, because their parents obviously don't have time for them other than feeding them and other vital tasks. Oh but then you say, didn't you read what I wrote, RAISE KIDS!!! Well, if they have time to raise those kids, why the **** can't they take their kids out for a walk? A vital part of raising kids, wether or not you realise it or not, is to teach themhow important it is to work out and eat healthy, that's why you shouldn't only work out, you should work out with your kids and encourage them to work out and eat healthy. And while you do that, you get a excersise as well. And doing some situps and pushups every other day won't take much time
And if these parents don't have time to do that with ther kids, they shouldn't even be parents in the first place.
I wouldn't purposely exclude somebody based on their weight, and I agree nobody else should either. But being proud of being fat is kind of pointless. sure if you have a medical problem that makes it so you can't lose weight, okay, but otherwise it's just stupid.XilePrincessYeah, it's kind of like having Cancer-Pride
[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Actually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.Vandalvideo
Hmm, you're saying that people working their asses of can actually CONTRIBUTE to them getting fat?
Sort of contradicts the silly claim that all fat people are lazy.
Fact, a lot of people work LONG hours at jobs that REQUIRE them to sit on their asses all day. These people them come home to raise the damn kids, get very little sleep (hey, hasn't not getting enough sleep also been shown to contribute to obesity?), and then get right up and repeat that same routine every single day. I know it's hard for people who visit a videogame website to comprehend, but there are a hell of a lot of fat people whose lives consist pretty much entirely of WORK. They don't have time to watch TV, they don't have time to play videogames, and they certainly don't have time to freaking lift weights for 30 minutes a day. A lot of fat people would consider YOU AND I lazy for having the time to sit on our asses and waste time having this discussion.
Working alot does not excuse you from getting the necessary nutrition. Make some sandwhiches for crying out loud. Every weekday I wake up at 6:00 AM and work until noon. From 12:30 to 7:00 I have classes at college. The most ammount of time I get for a break between all this is the 30 minutes that I have to DRIVE to my college from my place of work. I don't have any time to eat all day long, but I still manage to get my required nutrition. All it takes is making some sandwhiches before hand and eating them as you do your job. It is very easy to do. You have NO EXCUSE for getting the required food intact. I also find it highly unlikely that there are people out there that don't have even 10 minutes available to work out every day. If someone like me who works for important people finds the time to get a workout in while maintaining a 4.0 average, then these lazy ingrates can. And just to prove ap oint, I jogged a 10 minute mile while coughing up vomit just now from the flu. If you can't do that there is something seriously wrong with your health. You know, stress can lead to weight gain. Some people, my dad for instance, have much more stressful lives than you. Waking up at 4 am, working until around 6pm, then having to feed your kids doesn't leave much room for getting excercise or eating right. Stress effects people differently. My dad, he couldn't add in excercise and good eating to his list of things to do until he finished the project he was working on (which, by the way, was the stealth bomber). Some people genuinely don't have time or energy to workout and eat right. Most people do, of course, but you cannot say being fat is the same as being lazy in all cases.[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Actually, not eating enough is one of the leading causes of being fat. If you don't eat small meals every four hours your body starts gorging and storing fat cells.Dark-Sithious
Hmm, you're saying that people working their asses of can actually CONTRIBUTE to them getting fat?
Sort of contradicts the silly claim that all fat people are lazy.
Fact, a lot of people work LONG hours at jobs that REQUIRE them to sit on their asses all day. These people them come home to raise the damn kids, get very little sleep (hey, hasn't not getting enough sleep also been shown to contribute to obesity?), and then get right up and repeat that same routine every single day. I know it's hard for people who visit a videogame website to comprehend, but there are a hell of a lot of fat people whose lives consist pretty much entirely of WORK. They don't have time to watch TV, they don't have time to play videogames, and they certainly don't have time to freaking lift weights for 30 minutes a day. A lot of fat people would consider YOU AND I lazy for having the time to sit on our asses and waste time having this discussion.
Don't have time for 30 minutes a day? That's a crap load of utter BS. And if that's true then poor kids, because their parents obviously don't have time for them other than feeding them and other vital tasks. Oh but then you say, didn't you read what I wrote, RAISE KIDS!!! Well, if they have time to raise those kids, why the **** can't they take their kids out for a walk? A vital part of raising kids, wether or not you realise it or not, is to teach themhow important it is to work out and eat healthy, that's why you shouldn't only work out, you should work out with your kids and encourage them to work out and eat healthy. And while you do that, you get a excersise as well. And doing some situps and pushups every other day won't take much time
And if these parents don't have time to do that with ther kids, they shouldn't even be parents in the first place.
Welcome to reality. Lot's of people are actually POOR. For many people and in many ways, good health is a LUXURY that many people simply cannot afford. WE have computers and PS3s and videogames and HDTVs. A lot of the people HERE are extremely WELL OFF and can't even even fathom how difficult it is for other people to improve their lot in life. WE have the luxury of being able to devote time towards eductaion, so that a spare 20 minutes is well-spent on exercising. But for a lot of OTHER people, they'd be far better off sitting on their asses and trying to learn something if they're lucky enough to get one free hour a day. The poor uneducated person with very limited free time would be VASTLY better off using that time to study than using it to go jogging. The very notion that it's even worth that kind time to exercise is reserved for the people who actually have that kind luxury.
[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"] You know, stress can lead to weight gain. Some people, my dad for instance, have much more stressful lives than you. Waking up at 4 am, working until around 6pm, then having to feed your kids doesn't leave much room for getting excercise or eating right. Stress effects people differently. My dad, he couldn't add in excercise and good eating to his list of things to do until he finished the project he was working on (which, by the way, was the stealth bomber). Some people genuinely don't have time or energy to workout and eat right. Most people do, of course, but you cannot say being fat is the same as being lazy in all cases.VandalvideoStress does not produce calories that produce fat. Fat is built on you not burning enough calories to offset the ammount of calories that you intake. It is a matter of either eating too much or not exercising enough. If you can't find even 10 minutes to work out then you seriously are doing something wrong. Especially when someone like me, who has a lot of obligations, can do it. Dude, for **** sake, the ratio of calories eaten:calories burned is not always 100% accurate. Stress, along with other factors (including genes) can affect your metabolism. And don't even try to dispute this. Also, just because you have obligations doesn't mean others don't have MORE obligations. Working on something that can cost a company millions, along with not being able to talk to anyone about it (by contract), not to mention managing a family can change someone's life dramatically. Also, calories don't produce fat differently based on what they came from. That's a common misconception.
Not to mention having the time is not the same as having the energy, and not eating enough can have just as strong an effect, if not a more serious and long lasting one, as eating too much.
Dude, for **** sake, the ratio of calories eaten:calories burned is not always 100% accurate. Stress, along with other factors (including genes) can affect your metabolism. And don't even try to dispute this. Also, just because you have obligations doesn't mean others don't have MORE obligations. Working on something that can cost a company millions, along with not being able to talk to anyone about it (by contract), not to mention managing a family can change someone's life dramatically. Also, calories don't produce fat differently based on what they came from. That's a common misconception. Not to mention having the time is not the same as having the energy. Manly-manly-manMetabolism? Thats a crock excuse. Burning calories is burning calories. A set ammount of exercise will burn a set ammount of calories. It doesn't matter if I'm stressed out of my gourd. If I get on a treadmill and run for a mile I WILL burn 110-120 calories depending on if I'm doing high knees or not. It isn't a matter of whether or not my day was fine and dandy or if I met some hot chick that got me all flustered. Working out qua working out. It WILL burn the same ammount of calories. I would like to find someone who doesn't even have 10 minutes in a day to work out. If I even find him sitting on a couch ONCE in the entire day and complaining about his fatness I will slap that person black and blue. And having energy is an entire crock. Man it out. I'm sick with the flu right now, coughing up vomit and staggering around like a drunk person, but I just managed to jog a 10 minute mile about 20 minutes ago.
[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"] Dude, for **** sake, the ratio of calories eaten:calories burned is not always 100% accurate. Stress, along with other factors (including genes) can affect your metabolism. And don't even try to dispute this. Also, just because you have obligations doesn't mean others don't have MORE obligations. Working on something that can cost a company millions, along with not being able to talk to anyone about it (by contract), not to mention managing a family can change someone's life dramatically. Also, calories don't produce fat differently based on what they came from. That's a common misconception. Not to mention having the time is not the same as having the energy. VandalvideoMetabolism? Thats a crock excuse. Burning calories is burning calories. A set ammount of exercise will burn a set ammount of calories. It doesn't matter if I'm stressed out of my gourd. If I get on a treadmill and run for a mile I WILL burn 110-120 calories depending on if I'm doing high knees or not. It isn't a matter of whether or not my day was fine and dandy or if I met some hot chick that got me all flustered. Working out qua working out. It WILL burn the same ammount of calories. I would like to find someone who doesn't even have 10 minutes in a day to work out. If I even find him sitting on a couch ONCE in the entire day and complaining about his fatness I will slap that person black and blue. And having energy is an entire crock. Man it out. I'm sick with the flu right now, coughing up vomit and staggering around like a drunk person, but I just managed to jog a 10 minute mile about 20 minutes ago. When your body's metabolism slows down, your body will store food as fat more readily regardless of how many calories you burn. If you are at an equilibrium of calories consumed and burned, and then your metabolism slows down, you will gain weight.
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