For those who say the Occupy movement didn't inspire good ideas

One of Rand's book is called The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism. What a disgusting individual and what a disgusting type of mentality. Not only is she clueless about what human nature is but she also advocates that bad things are good. It doesn't get much more absurd than that.kuraimen

She wasn't even an egoist, because she completely contradicted herself; she said that others are ends in themselves and so cannot be sacrificed for your own good. And then she attacks what she calls altruism, which to her meant complete self-sacrfice and self-hatred. She didn't even know what altruism is.

lol, corporations are a government entity, it is not a natural one like a sole proprietorship or partnership where liability is on the owner. here we have a thread about ending the private sector by the public sector as a good thing, even though the distortions in the providing private sector are created by the government the OWS people want more of. it seems silly to ask for more of the same to fix the issues seen, problems are rarely cyclical. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]One of Rand's book is called The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism. What a disgusting individual and what a disgusting type of mentality. Not only is she clueless about what human nature is but she also advocates that bad things are good. It doesn't get much more absurd than that.ghoklebutter

She wasn't even an egoist, becasue she completely contradicted herself; she said that others are ends in themselves and so cannot be sacrificed for your own good. And then she attacks what she calls altruism, which to her means complete self-sacrfice and self-hatred. I'm pretty sure she didn't even know what altruism is.

lol, corporations are a government entity, it is not a natural one like a sole proprietorship or partnership where liability is on the owner. here we have a thread about ending the private sector by the public sector as a good thing, even though the distortions in the providing private sector are created by the government the OWS people want more of. it seems silly to ask for more of the same to fix the issues seen, problems are rarely cyclical. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]lol, corporations are a government entity, it is not a natural one like a sole proprietorship or partnership where liability is on the owner. here we have a thread about ending the private sector by the public sector as a good thing, even though the distortions in the providing private sector are created by the government the OWS people want more of. it seems silly to ask for more of the same to fix the issues seen, problems are rarely cyclical. SEANMCAD

OWS movement is NOT saying they want more goverment.

Listen carefully becuase its not hard.

what they are saying is 'please give us the bank bailout money back'

thats it. why do you and others have a problem with that idea?

Profile is set to private? Vuurk

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]One of Rand's book is called The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism. What a disgusting individual and what a disgusting type of mentality. Not only is she clueless about what human nature is but she also advocates that bad things are good. It doesn't get much more absurd than that.Vuurk

She wasn't even an egoist, because she completely contradicted herself; she said that others are ends in themselves and so cannot be sacrificed for your own good. And then she attacks what she calls altruism, which to her meant complete self-sacrfice and self-hatred. She didn't even know what altruism is.

[QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]One of Rand's book is called The Virtue of Selfishness: A New Concept of Egoism. What a disgusting individual and what a disgusting type of mentality. Not only is she clueless about what human nature is but she also advocates that bad things are good. It doesn't get much more absurd than that.Vuurk

She wasn't even an egoist, because she completely contradicted herself; she said that others are ends in themselves and so cannot be sacrificed for your own good. And then she attacks what she calls altruism, which to her meant complete self-sacrfice and self-hatred. She didn't even know what altruism is.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]lol, corporations are a government entity, it is not a natural one like a sole proprietorship or partnership where liability is on the owner. here we have a thread about ending the private sector by the public sector as a good thing, even though the distortions in the providing private sector are created by the government the OWS people want more of. it seems silly to ask for more of the same to fix the issues seen, problems are rarely cyclical. kuraimen

anarcho-capitalismsurrealnumber5

lol

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

OWS movement is NOT saying they want more goverment.

Listen carefully becuase its not hard.

what they are saying is 'please give us the bank bailout money back'

thats it. why do you and others have a problem with that idea?

SEANMCAD

I will use a elementry school playground example.

OWS: 'bobby stole my money and I want it back'

opposition: 'I dont understand how we can create a system that will do that'

OWS:'I have an idea, how about a system that is based on not stealing money from me'

The 'alt' economic system that is suggested by the OWS is one where we do not provide regular sceduled bailouts to large economic companies, there are people here as well as other places who clearly think that is 1. not possible. 2. shouldnt happen because they think large companies SHOULD get bailouts or 3. are wanting to agree with OWS and not like them at the same time becuase they are deathly afraid of being labeled a hipster.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]anarcho-capitalismghoklebutter

lol

[QUOTE="Vuurk"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"]

She wasn't even an egoist, because she completely contradicted herself; she said that others are ends in themselves and so cannot be sacrificed for your own good. And then she attacks what she calls altruism, which to her meant complete self-sacrfice and self-hatred. She didn't even know what altruism is.

ghoklebutter

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]lol, corporations are a government entity, it is not a natural one like a sole proprietorship or partnership where liability is on the owner. here we have a thread about ending the private sector by the public sector as a good thing, even though the distortions in the providing private sector are created by the government the OWS people want more of. it seems silly to ask for more of the same to fix the issues seen, problems are rarely cyclical. surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="SEANMCAD"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] because stealing again is not a fix to the problem, the problem is that people allowed their government to get away with giving gifts to private interests. if you agree with some subsidies you have to take the ones you disapprove with as well, as you accept the power of the government to give gifts to private interests. if youre ok with giving money to green tech then in principle you are fine with giving money to the banks.Vuurk

I will use a elementry school playground example.

OWS: 'bobby stole my money and I want it back'

opposition: 'I dont understand how we can create a system that will do that'

OWS:'I have an idea, how about a system that is based on not stealing money from me'

The 'alt' economic system that is suggested by the OWS is one where we do not provide regular sceduled bailouts to large economic companies, there are people here as well as other places who clearly think that is 1. not possible. 2. shouldnt happen because they think large companies SHOULD get bailouts or 3. are wanting to agree with OWS and not like them at the same time becuase they are deathly afraid of being labeled a hipster.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="ghoklebutter"] It's a good thing that I have problems with Marx as well.Vuurk

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Vuurk"]. You've gotta be f*cking out of your mind if you think communism is possible. With 300 million people there is no way in hell it is possible. Vuurk

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="Vuurk"] No, you said that you support a communist system. I'm pointing out that communism is a joke. It's a euphoric wish and nothing more. Don't blame me. You're the one who has previously shown your support for communism. If communism isn't the right word for what you support then what is?Vuurk

And Kuraimen quietly disappears from the thread as he realizes that his ideas about communism are flawed. What a surprise. Vuurk