Fox News....WHAT?!

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Why not let them decide on their own? Instead of planting it in a popular childrens books?Snipes_2

Well those people can speak out all they want and we can show them their bigotry.

Please tell me how promoting tolerance towards being gay indoctrination.

Please show how being gay is any problem to society.

There is no such scientific studies for it.

The way we battle against this ignorance is by speaking out and using education rather than what the other side does which is promote bigotry.

To people like Bill O 'Reilly being gay is a bad thing and he thinks this for no logical reason.

He thinks this because some goat herders on shrooms wrote about it in a book.

Seriously they need to stop holding back progress in society and allow for more tolerance towards people with other views that are not detrimental to society.

These are the same people who reject a scientific fact "Evolution" so I don't think critical thinking is something on their list.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Oh puh-lease. The picture was a shirt being sold in that store which you linked. What difference does it make what website hosted the picture? :roll: Please, let's be reasonable. You cannot possibly say 'that isn't from the website i posted' just because someone took a picture of that website and then uploaded that image to photobucket. Photobucket does not magically turn that website into a new one.

Also i haven't invented anything:

He had a problem with gays at a baseball game - homophobic.

He had a problem with a gay couples promotion at disney - homophobic.

He had a problem with a gay character in a book - homophobic.

Why does he care at all if someone is gay Even bringing it up as an issue is blatant homophobia.

EDIT: and yes he sure does have the right to speak out and be a bigot if he wants to. I also have a right to call him out on it.

scorch-62

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Why not let them decide on their own? Instead of planting it in a popular childrens books?Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Why not let them decide on their own? Instead of planting it in a popular childrens books?scorch-62

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] If a parent told their kid not to be a racist would you disagree with that on the same principle then? They should decide to be tolerant and open-minded on their own? If a book has a positive message (hey... be tolerant. there's nothing wrong with gay people) i see that as nothing but a good thing. I see no reason why Bill O'Reilly would have a problem with that other than latent homophobia. Hakkai007

Well those people can speak out all they want and we can show them their bigotry.

Please tell me how promoting tolerance towards being gay indoctrination.

Please show how being gay is any problem to society.

There is no such scientific studies for it.

The way we battle against this ignorance is by speaking out and using intelligent rather than what the other side does which is promote bigotry.

To people like Bill O 'Reilly being gay is a bad thing and he thinks this for no logical reason.

He thinks this because some goat herders on shrooms wrote about it in a book.

Seriously they need to stop holding back progress in society and allow for more tolerance towards people with other views that are not detrimental to society.

These are the same people who reject a scientific fact "Evolution" so I don't think critical thinking is something on their list.

When did Respectfulness, and being polite become an issue of Toleration? You can teach them about whatever you want, in the end, they'll make up their minds.Snipes_2

And just on a side note, i don't think that's true. I imagine very few polite, respectful, tolerant parents produce racist, bigoted kids.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] What you see as a positive message others see as a form of indoctrination. Not everyone has the same opinion. I think kids should decide whether or not they want to be racist as well based upon their interactions with a given race. Snipes_2

But kids will act depending on the views they take in from their community, parents and media.

The parents are usually the major part of influence.

You could send a girl to be raised by a pack of dogs and she would act like one so what you teach a child has a large affect on their behavior, they are not born with a bias they develop based on the influential figures that they listen to.

And Homephobia = not like gays.

Bill O 'Reilly does not like gays.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Oh puh-lease. The picture was a shirt being sold in that store which you linked. What difference does it make what website hosted the picture? :roll: Please, let's be reasonable. You cannot possibly say 'that isn't from the website i posted' just because someone took a picture of that website and then uploaded that image to photobucket. Photobucket does not magically turn that website into a new one.

Also i haven't invented anything:

He had a problem with gays at a baseball game - homophobic.

He had a problem with a gay couples promotion at disney - homophobic.

He had a problem with a gay character in a book - homophobic.

Why does he care at all if someone is gay Even bringing it up as an issue is blatant homophobia.

EDIT: and yes he sure does have the right to speak out and be a bigot if he wants to. I also have a right to call him out on it.

scorch-62

I don't think it's anything to do with the book specifically, i think she just decided it was about time people stopped ignoring homosexuality and decided to make one of her characters gay Rather than just get on with it and be happy, some people (like Bill) got all up in arms about it which just goes to show that it was a much needed decision because the world is still full of homophobes. Ninja-Hippo

Why is everyone that doesn't accept Gays a Bigot? I find your description of the Bible offensive, and why do you care if people have different political views or religious views?Snipes_2

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Eh, I guess. [QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Why is everyone that doesn't accept Gays a Bigot? I find your description of the Bible offensive, and why do you care if people have different political views or religious views?scorch-62

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:(...

Speaking out against something doesn't instantly brand you as Homophobic. ho·mo·pho·bia (hō′mə fō′bē ə). noun. irrational hatred or fear of homosexuals or homosexuality

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] What you see as a positive message others see as a form of indoctrination. Not everyone has the same opinion. I think kids should decide whether or not they want to be racist as well based upon their interactions with a given race. Snipes_2

Well those people can speak out all they want and we can show them their bigotry.

Please tell me how promoting tolerance towards being gay indoctrination.

Please show how being gay is any problem to society.

There is no such scientific studies for it.

The way we battle against this ignorance is by speaking out and using intelligent rather than what the other side does which is promote bigotry.

To people like Bill O 'Reilly being gay is a bad thing and he thinks this for no logical reason.

He thinks this because some goat herders on shrooms wrote about it in a book.

Seriously they need to stop holding back progress in society and allow for more tolerance towards people with other views that are not detrimental to society.

These are the same people who reject a scientific fact "Evolution" so I don't think critical thinking is something on their list.

Why is it? well here.....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

Bigot = a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;especially:one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Sounds like bigotry to me.

Also I care about all views because an individual's belief affect their actions.

If you have almost half of America deny a scientific fact then their is something wrong.

And so what if you find my definition for the bible offensive.

If you want me to make a separate thread showing why the bible is nothing but fairy tales with a disgusting god and full of bigotry then I will.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Speaking out against something doesn't instantly brand you as Homophobic. ho·mo·pho·bia (hō′mə fō′bē ə). noun. irrational hatred or fear of homosexuals or homosexuality

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Well those people can speak out all they want and we can show them their bigotry.

Please tell me how promoting tolerance towards being gay indoctrination.

Please show how being gay is any problem to society.

There is no such scientific studies for it.

The way we battle against this ignorance is by speaking out and using intelligent rather than what the other side does which is promote bigotry.

To people like Bill O 'Reilly being gay is a bad thing and he thinks this for no logical reason.

He thinks this because some goat herders on shrooms wrote about it in a book.

Seriously they need to stop holding back progress in society and allow for more tolerance towards people with other views that are not detrimental to society.

These are the same people who reject a scientific fact "Evolution" so I don't think critical thinking is something on their list.

Hakkai007

Why is it? well here.....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

Bigot = a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;especially:one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Sounds like bigotry to me.

Also I care about all views because an individual's belief affect their actions.

If you have almost half of America deny a scientific fact then their is something wrong.

And so what if you find my definition for the bible offensive.

If you want me to make a separate thread showing why the bible is nothing but fairy tales with a disgusting god and full of bigotry then I will.

Why is everyone that doesn't accept Gays a Bigot? I find your description of the Bible offensive, and why do you care if people have different political views or religious views?Snipes_2

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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Why is everyone that doesn't accept Gays a Bigot? I find your description of the Bible offensive, and why do you care if people have different political views or religious views?Snipes_2

Why is it? well here.....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

Bigot = a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;especially:one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Sounds like bigotry to me.

Also I care about all views because an individual's belief affect their actions.

If you have almost half of America deny a scientific fact then their is something wrong.

And so what if you find my definition for the bible offensive.

If you want me to make a separate thread showing why the bible is nothing but fairy tales with a disgusting god and full of bigotry then I will.

ZZZZzzz I guess you just don;t understand that hating gays is bigotry.....They used an example of a "group" you don;t need to hate on only ethnic or racial groups to be a bigot, hating on a different sexuality group is also bigotry.

And yes God is quite disgusting and has murder millions of people in the bible, he loves war and bloodshed and the sacrificing of animals, he hates gays too.

Maybe you only read the new testament but the old one has all sort of nasty things in it.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Why is it? well here.....

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot

Bigot = a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;especially:one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Sounds like bigotry to me.

Also I care about all views because an individual's belief affect their actions.

If you have almost half of America deny a scientific fact then their is something wrong.

And so what if you find my definition for the bible offensive.

If you want me to make a separate thread showing why the bible is nothing but fairy tales with a disgusting god and full of bigotry then I will.

Hakkai007

ZZZZzzz I guess you just don;t understand that hating gays is bigotry.....They used an example of a "group" you don;t need to hate on only ethnic or racial groups to be a bigot, hating on a different sexuality group is also bigotry.

And yes God is quite disgusting and has murder millions of people in the bible, he loves war and bloodshed and the sacrificing of animals, he hates gays too.

Maybe you only read the new testament but the old one has all sort of nasty things in it.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I know exactly what a Bigot is, and that wasn't in response to your post, that's why I quoted someone else. Snipes_2

Ok what if I told you being black is wrong and I want no form of it in the media.

I don't want black people to marry white people and I don't want them in the same area as my children.

I think you would consider that bigotry.

Homosexuality is just a sexual preference that you are born with just like being born black.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] If you know exactly what a bigot is why would you ask why speaking out against homosexuals makes a person a bigot? Hakkai007

Ok what if I told you being black is wrong and I want no form of it in the media.

I don't want black people to marry white people and I don't want them in the same area as my children.

I think you would consider that bigotry.

Homosexuality is just a sexual preference that you are born with just like being born black.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] God is not Disgusting, it's not full of Bigotry, and it's not full of Fairy Tales. Bill O'Reilly does not one who treats members of another race or ethnic group with hatred. Snipes_2

ZZZZzzz I guess you just don;t understand that hating gays is bigotry.....They used an example of a "group" you don;t need to hate on only ethnic or racial groups to be a bigot, hating on a different sexuality group is also bigotry.

And yes God is quite disgusting and has murder millions of people in the bible, he loves war and bloodshed and the sacrificing of animals, he hates gays too.

Maybe you only read the new testament but the old one has all sort of nasty things in it.

What was Noah's flood then? The tower of Babel? Sending Bears to kill 42 children? God ordering Joshua and his people to kill every man, woman and child in a city.

There are plenty I can come up with.

And apparently you said nothing about hating gays so you agree with me that god hates gays and made it punishable by death.

it doesnt matterif fox news is good or not. millions of people watch it. and they were right about obama he is a disaster

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Because merely speaking out against something doesn't make you a Bigot. IF it did, I could say you're a Bigot for Speaking out against my beliefs on Homosexuality. Snipes_2

Ok what if I told you being black is wrong and I want no form of it in the media.

I don't want black people to marry white people and I don't want them in the same area as my children.

I think you would consider that bigotry.

Homosexuality is just a sexual preference that you are born with just like being born black.

Ok tell me why you don't want those reasons to happen?

And your last statement makes no sense.

That is like saying I do not like black people, but it's not because they are black.

You are choosing not to like a group of people defined by the very thing you say that it not the reason of the dislike.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Ok what if I told you being black is wrong and I want no form of it in the media.

I don't want black people to marry white people and I don't want them in the same area as my children.

I think you would consider that bigotry.

Homosexuality is just a sexual preference that you are born with just like being born black.

Hakkai007

Ok tell me why you don't want those reasons to happen?

And your last statement makes no sense.

That is like saying I do not like black people, but it's not because they are black.

You are choosing not to like a group of people defined by the very thing you say that it not the reason of the dislike.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

ZZZZzzz I guess you just don;t understand that hating gays is bigotry.....They used an example of a "group" you don;t need to hate on only ethnic or racial groups to be a bigot, hating on a different sexuality group is also bigotry.

And yes God is quite disgusting and has murder millions of people in the bible, he loves war and bloodshed and the sacrificing of animals, he hates gays too.

Maybe you only read the new testament but the old one has all sort of nasty things in it.

Hakkai007

What was Noah's flood then? The tower of Babel? Sending Bears to kill 42 children? God ordering Joshua and his people to kill every man, woman and child in a city.

There are plenty I can come up with.

And apparently you said nothing about hating gays so you agree with me that god hates gays and made it punishable by death.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] There may be reasons why you do want those things happening, it's not just because their black. Why are we assuming O'Reilly doesn't like Gays just because they're GaySnipes_2

Ok tell me why you don't want those reasons to happen?

And your last statement makes no sense.

That is like saying I do not like black people, but it's not because they are black.

You are choosing not to like a group of people defined by the very thing you say that it not the reason of the dislike.