Fox News....WHAT?!

People make it out to be far worse than it really is. My parents prefer it over other news stations because they're pretty conservative. They don't take what Glenn Beck has to say as a direct news source and get information from all the news stations. You can't expect to get the entire story when you just gather information from one side.

I don't really like any news stations though, I get pretty much all of my news online.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] There may be reasons why you do want those things happening, it's not just because their black. Why are we assuming O'Reilly doesn't like Gays just because they're GaySnipes_2

Ok tell me why you don't want those reasons to happen?

And your last statement makes no sense.

That is like saying I do not like black people, but it's not because they are black.

You are choosing not to like a group of people defined by the very thing you say that it not the reason of the dislike.

Well their is no scientific study that shows any link to tolerance of gays or media coverage of tolerance of gays causing any problems in society rather it is the opposites which provoke people to harm gays.

If you were talking about blacks when you made that quote then the same complies.

It is obvious why O 'Reilly doesn't like gays because it goes against his belief system.

And you still don;t make sense with that statement.

How can you not hate a group of people for what they are grouped by.

That is like saying I hate Native Americans but not because they are Native Americans.

You can bring up any explanation of Natives Americans killing your ancestors or promoting gambling at casinos but none of that has any relevancy in someone being a Native American because your race does not automatically make you do those things.

Instead you should say I hate casino owners who promote gambling and I hate the individuals who killed my ancestors.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Race isn't the same as Sexual Orientation. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

Ok tell me why you don't want those reasons to happen?

And your last statement makes no sense.

That is like saying I do not like black people, but it's not because they are black.

You are choosing not to like a group of people defined by the very thing you say that it not the reason of the dislike.

Hakkai007

Well their is no scientific study that shows any link to tolerance of gays or media coverage of tolerance of gays causing any problems in society rather it is the opposites which provoke people to harm gays.

If you were talking about blacks when you made that quote then the same complies.

It obvious why O 'Reilly doesn't like gays because it goes against his belief system.

And you still don;t make sense with that statement.

How can you not hate a group of people for what they are grouped by.

That is like saying I hate Native Americans but not because they are Native Americans.

You can bring up any explanation of Natives Americans killing your ancestors or promoting gambling at casinos but none of that has any relevancy in someone being a Native American because your race does not automatically make you do those things.

Instead you should say I hate casino owners who promote gambling and I hate the individuals who killed my ancestors.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Race isn't the same as Sexual Orientation. Snipes_2

If you like guys and marry a girl you still like guys.

Being a homosexual is because of your genetics just like being black.

The Black people could get their skin to turn white but they choose not to.

And you act like being gay is a bad thing.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Yes it is. A person cannot help being black. A person cannot help the way they are born and the way they feel about their sexuality. They are absolutely comparable. Hakkai007

If you like guys and marry a girl you still like guys.

Being a homosexual is because of your genetics just like being black.

The Black people could get their skin to turn white but they choose not to.

And you act like being gay is a bad thing.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Yes it is. A person cannot help being black. A person cannot help the way they are born and the way they feel about their sexuality. They are absolutely comparable. Mousetaches

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Race isn't the same as Sexual Orientation. Snipes_2

Uhm...No, I'm not out doing things with Girls. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Could do with Crime, Neighborhood etc..You assume O'Reilly doesn't like Gays just because they're Gay but how do we know this?Snipes_2

Well their is no scientific study that shows any link to tolerance of gays or media coverage of tolerance of gays causing any problems in society rather it is the opposites which provoke people to harm gays.

If you were talking about blacks when you made that quote then the same complies.

It obvious why O 'Reilly doesn't like gays because it goes against his belief system.

And you still don;t make sense with that statement.

How can you not hate a group of people for what they are grouped by.

That is like saying I hate Native Americans but not because they are Native Americans.

You can bring up any explanation of Natives Americans killing your ancestors or promoting gambling at casinos but none of that has any relevancy in someone being a Native American because your race does not automatically make you do those things.

Instead you should say I hate casino owners who promote gambling and I hate the individuals who killed my ancestors.

Yes but being a Native America doesn't mean that you are responsible for someone else's actions just because they are the same race as you.

It would be bigotry to do so.

You shouldn't hate all Native Americans just because some one who happened to be a Native American killed your family.

Instead you hate the individuals who killed your family.

That is like a Native American hating me just because my family came and killed them and took their land hundreds of years ago.

I had nothing to do with that incident and me being a relative to them does not make me responsible nor does it make me the same as them.

I wouldn't say God "Hates" Gays, he loves all of his Children. Wait, I thought you said the Bible was all Fairy Tales. IF that's the Case why are you using the Bible as an Example, IF they're Fairy Tales how do you know these things actually happened? The Tower of Babel no one was killed. The Flood didn't kill millions of people, I don't remember anything about Bears or God ordering the Massacre of Men, Women and Children. Snipes_2

Wait, so what happened to everyone on Earth except Noah and his family then? O_o

And to the people who think snipes is saying homosexuality is a choice, he's not. He's saying that they don't have to have sex with the same gender. But this doesn't make sense to me. Why would God make people homosexuals and not allow them to have sex, but heterosexuals can?

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Yes it is. A person cannot help being black. A person cannot help the way they are born and the way they feel about their sexuality. They are absolutely comparable. super_mario_128

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Race isn't the same as Sexual Orientation. Snipes_2

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

i posted that thread....

You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

You couldn't be more wrong. It is the impulses that makes a person gay not the action. Furthermore, I don't think that a heterosexual has any right to make the statement you're making. Unless you are gay how could you possibly know?

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. super_mario_128

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Dark_Knight6

You couldn't be more wrong. It is the impulses that makes a person gay not the action. Furthermore, I don't think that a heterosexual has any right to make the statement you're making. Unless you are gay how could you possibly know?

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Yes it is. A person cannot help being black. A person cannot help the way they are born and the way they feel about their sexuality. They are absolutely comparable. SgtKevali

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

I don't know about you, but I never chose to be straight.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]You can have Homosexual Impulses, but what Ultimately makes you Gay is actually acting on those impulses and deciding how you want to live your life. Snipes_2

You couldn't be more wrong. It is the impulses that makes a person gay not the action. Furthermore, I don't think that a heterosexual has any right to make the statement you're making. Unless you are gay how could you possibly know?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] A person has to make their own choices on being Gay or not. No way around it, you HAVE to make the Choice to get a Boyfriend or Indulge in those feelings. Being born a Black cannot be helped in any way whatsoever. Snipes_2

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

Reread the post. That's what I'm adressing.

You want to hear a form of non-bigotry.

I do not like other guys sexually, I do not like watching gay porn and I do not hold the same sexual interests as a homosexual but I want them to have the same freedom as I do.

Bigotry =

I do not like gay people because they like are gay and I don't want them to have the same rights as I do.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] A person has to make their own choices on being Gay or not. No way around it, you HAVE to make the Choice to get a Boyfriend or Indulge in those feelings. Being born a Black cannot be helped in any way whatsoever. Snipes_2

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

SgtKevali

Reread the post. That's what I'm adressing.

MY family and I have a Friend and Neighbors that are Gay And we've spoken to them about it maybe? Snipes_2

That's great. I'm gay and I have a first hand experience dealing with the matter, which is always worth more than talking to a best friend's friend's neighbor or what-have-you. There is no choice when it comes to being a homosexual. Just as there is no choice for any other sexuality.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

The comparison you're using is off. Someone simply being gay and someone simply being black are very comparable ideas. Your argument is that being gay means to express yourself as a gay person with gay inclinations. The proper comparison on the racial side to that would be to say a black person leaving his house is "choosing" to express his "blackness", and that makes him "black". If someone is gay they're still gay no matter how much they try to repress it.

And furthermore, what do you mean when you say you make the choice to "indulge in those feelings". You can't control how you feel in terms of sexuality.

Ninja-Hippo