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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] IF it was a "Perfectly Natural State of Mind" why do people oppose it? Oh wait, I forgot, Everyone that opposes it is just a bigot. Snipes_2

What does that have to do with anything?

If being black is a natural state of being why do some people oppose it?

Because they're wrong (imo).

They're both things you can't control. I'd say they're equally wrong.

In the end, I don't see why anyone would judge/dislike someone because of their inner feelings and/or who they sleep with.

Opposing a Black Person because he's robbing you isn't Bigotry, Opposing him just because of his skin color is. Opposing a Gay man because you don't Agree with his Lifestyle however, is not Bigotry. Race and Orientation are two separate things

Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Mousetaches"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Homosexuals are "Acting on their love for someone" already. No ones stopping them. Snipes_2

Homosexuality is affected by your genetics, it is a natural thing and yes it is seen in nature not just by monkeys but by many other species of animals.

It is easily seen in other forms of apes and it;s not surprise since we are related by a common ancestor.

And even if it was unnatural why should it be banned?

There are no scientific studies showing homosexuality having any negative affect on society.

Rather the opposite shows with homosexual families raising kids who grow up to be the same like other children.

And yes I would say quoting a source from the bible as a way to say homosexuality is bad is idiotic in so many ways.

This is why Race isn't comparable to Gay people. Gay people all have the same Orientation, while Black People have different Lifestyles, Orientations, etc..Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Snipes_2

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] So you're a Bigot for not liking Gay people? I wasn't too clear on your post. Ninja-Hippo

Sodom and Gomorrah? Yeah, that's not why God destroyed those cities. It had to due with the blatantly lustful sex, regardless of gender.

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Snipes_2

What other reason could you oppose a whole group define by their race?

What other reason could group them all together?

Gay people don;t all have the same lifestyle the only thing that links them together is that they have a sexual preference for the same gender.

Opposing a Black Person because he's robbing you isn't Bigotry, Opposing him just because of his skin color is. Opposing a Gay man because you don't Agree with his Lifestyle however, is not Bigotry. Race and Orientation are two separate thingsSnipes_2

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

Opposing a Black Person because he's robbing you isn't Bigotry, Opposing him just because of his skin color is. Opposing a Gay man because you don't Agree with his Lifestyle however, is not Bigotry. Race and Orientation are two separate things

Ninja-Hippo

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Opposing a person because they're gay is wrong. They are a human being doing what is entirely natural to them and we have no right to deprive them of rights or happiness whatsoever. scorch-62

Sodom and Gomorrah? Yeah, that's not why God destroyed those cities. It had to due with the blatantly lustful sex, regardless of gender.

Dark_Knight6

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

What other reason could you oppose a whole group define by their race?

What other reason could group them all together?

Hakkai007

Gay people don;t all have the same lifestyle the only thing that links them together is that they have a sexual preference for the same gender.

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] It's not Natural for a Human to be Gay in my opinion. Yes, I just said that.

Snipes_2

So the animals make a conscious choice to be homosexual? :lol:

Could you please address it again?

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Opposing a person because they're gay is wrong. They are a human being doing what is entirely natural to them and we have no right to deprive them of rights or happiness whatsoever. SgtKevali

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Just humans? Why is that?SgtKevali

So the animals make a conscious choice to be homosexual? :lol:

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] It's not Natural for a Human to be Gay in my opinion. Yes, I just said that.

Snipes_2

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

Please repeat it. I don't want to have to trudge through all these pages to find it. :)

No i forget which one it is. I had to read it way back in high school as part of my religious studies exams where we had to look at the darker side of the bible and some of the pretty bad things which are in it, and that was one of them. A small tribe is killed with fire because they're gay It's a very short passage.

Ninja-Hippo

I'm almost certain that you're referring to Sodom and Gomorrah. God rained fire and brimestone down upon them for their indecent and lustful acts.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

SgtKevali

Please repeat it. I don't want to have to trudge through all these pages to find it. :)

[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You know what else isn't natural? The computer you're using to type this.

In reality, homosexuality is natural, as it happens in nature (animals have displayed homosexuality).

Being gay isn't a "choice".

Snipes_2

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Not in animals either. I already addressed the Monkeys in an earlier post. Snipes_2

So the animals make a conscious choice to be homosexual? :lol:

Because not all of them are gay Kind of like, you know, with the human race.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I already addressed the animals in an Earlier post. I believe it was in Reply to "Moustache". Snipes_2

Please repeat it. I don't want to have to trudge through all these pages to find it. :)

I'm not well educated on this, so I'll have to look into it.

By the way, you can't use "nature" to judge whether a behavior is "right" or "wrong".

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Opposing people just because they're black is wrong. Opposing them for other reasons is not however. Snipes_2

You do realize that homosexuality has been observed in hundreds of animals right?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] INB4 are humans animals? Christ...cain006

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Too Late, I already addressed the animals issue earlier :)Snipes_2

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Too Late, I already addressed the animals issue earlier :)Snipes_2

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

[QUOTE="cain006"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Too Late, I already addressed the animals issue earlier :)Snipes_2

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

This is all irrelevant because whether homosexuality is "natural" or not has no bearing on it's "morality".

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="cain006"]

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] It's not Natural for a Human to be Gay in my opinion. Yes, I just said that.Snipes_2

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="cain006"]

I think you need to read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

SgtKevali

This is all irrelevant because whether homosexuality is "natural" or not has no bearing on it's "morality".

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] No there aren't. If you are gay you are gay You can choose to do absolutely nothing to act on that, but you're still gay Fact. No choice involved. Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "You can choose to do absolutely nothing to act on that" So wait. No one makes choices in life? Or?

iowastate

That's your opinion on his views though. Why are they Irrational? Maybe he believes it's detrimental?Snipes_2

Why do you think it's Antipathetic? IT's his set of views on Homosexuality, just becuase your opinions are different doesn't mean he's a Bigot.Snipes_2

"Bill is thus being prejudiced and antipathetic towards people simply because their lives do not conform to HIS set of beliefs." Wouldn't that make Gays Bigots because people don't want to conform to their sets of beliefs?Snipes_2

Not in animals either. I already addressed the Monkeys in an earlier post. Snipes_2