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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] How do you know O'Reilly is Against Gays just because their life doesn't mirror his? "The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs." Bill O'Reilly harbors no animosity or irrationality. Snipes_2

Um, yeah he does. Gays shouldn't be at a ball park why kids are there = irrational. Gays should not be characters in a book = antipathetic Look, Bill does not like homosexuality, yes? Bill often speaks out AGAINST people simply because they are homosexual. Bill is thus being prejudiced and antipathetic towards people simply because their lives do not conform to HIS set of beliefs. Magic word: [spoiler] Bigot [/spoiler]

That's your opinion on his views though. Why are they Irrational? Maybe he believes it's detrimental? Why do you think it's Antipathetic? IT's his set of views on Homosexuality, just becuase your opinions are different doesn't mean he's a Bigot. "Bill is thus being prejudiced and antipathetic towards people simply because their lives do not conform to HIS set of beliefs." Wouldn't that make Gays Bigots because people don't want to conform to their sets of beliefs?

My stance is this: People can have gay relationships all they want. That doesn't bother me, and it shouldn't bother people. What i disagree with are the people like cross dressers and flaunters. Like really, straight women don't act as girly as gay men do. And men's clothing is for all men, gay or straight. Just because your gay doesnt mean you wear women's clothes, you are still biologically a man.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] How do you know O'Reilly is Against Gays just because their life doesn't mirror his? "The correct use of the term requires the elements of intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs." Bill O'Reilly harbors no animosity or irrationality.

Um, yeah he does. Gays shouldn't be at a ball park why kids are there = irrational. Gays should not be characters in a book = antipathetic Look, Bill does not like homosexuality, yes? Bill often speaks out AGAINST people simply because they are homosexual. Bill is thus being prejudiced and antipathetic towards people simply because their lives do not conform to HIS set of beliefs. Magic word: [spoiler] Bigot [/spoiler]

That's your opinion on his views though. Why are they Irrational? Maybe he believes it's detrimental? Why do you think it's Antipathetic? IT's his set of views on Homosexuality, just becuase your opinions are different doesn't mean he's a Bigot. "Bill is thus being prejudiced and antipathetic towards people simply because their lives do not conform to HIS set of beliefs." Wouldn't that make Gays Bigots because people don't want to conform to their sets of beliefs?

So black people are bigots against the KKK? You're denying people a right that they, as human beings, should have: The right to be with someone they care about and love. I really don't get it. Why do people oppose gays? It doesn't hurt them at all and it would make a huge number of people happy if they had the same rights as us.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "You can choose to do absolutely nothing to act on that" So wait. No one makes choices in life? Or?
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People obviously make choices in life. :| You're skirting the point (again). This discussion is not about LIFE in general it is about whether a person being gay is a choice. You cannot help being gay even if you choose to hide your feelings from the outside world, you are still gay Thus, there is no choice involved in BEING GAY whether you act on it or not.

this discussion is supposed to be about Fox News....where the heck are you guys going with this?

Thread derailment often happens in OT. :P

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#354 Ninja-Hippo

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Those acts are not done for Pleasure, they are done for purely social purposes. Which is what I said about the Monkeys. Snipes_2

Heterosexual relations often occur purely for pleasure. Is that wrong too?

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#355 coolbeans90

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[QUOTE="iowastate"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] People obviously make choices in life. :| You're skirting the point (again). This discussion is not about LIFE in general it is about whether a person being gay is a choice. You cannot help being gay even if you choose to hide your feelings from the outside world, you are still gay Thus, there is no choice involved in BEING GAY whether you act on it or not.SgtKevali

this discussion is supposed to be about Fox News....where the heck are you guys going with this?

Thread derailment often happens in OT. :P

This one was perhaps the most massive derailment I've ever seen.

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Pretty pointless thread. The opening topic is biased. The Fox hate is and will always be trendy. I like the network as well any other news network. I just take every networks reporting with a grain of salt.

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#357 Ninja-Hippo

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Wait, You just said O'Reilly having different beliefs makes him a Bigot? Snipes_2

Quote me saying Bill O'Reilly is a bigot because he has different beliefs. Please quote that mythical statement.

EDIT: in fact i will cut this one down early. If you're trying to say that a gay person might hate those who are against being gay he would be kinda bigoted too. What relevance does that have to the fact that Bill O'Reilly is a bigot? Absolutely none.

It's basically 'Glenn Beck is an advertisement whore' - "well so is Obama!' all over again. Just because you can point out similar behaviour elsewhere does not mean the person being criticised for that behavior is in any way excused or justified.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Not in animals either. I already addressed the Monkeys in an earlier post. Hinamizawa

Have you never heard of the sexually dimorphic nucleus (SDN)? It is a cluster of cells that is in an area of the brain located in the anterior portion of the hypothalamus. This area (the preoptic area), contains the median preoptic nucleus that releases GnRH (gonadotropin-releasing hormones). This hormone controls processes such as hair growth, ovulation in the female, and spermatogenesis in the male.

Anyway...in a study done by the Universities of Oregon and Oregon State, the ovine sexually dimorphic nucleus (oSDN...named ovine due to that being the scientific cIassification for sheep) was two times greater in volume for straight rams as opposed to "homosexual" rams.

That's just one instance. I'm sure you can find more.

How's that relevant? It just explains what some sheep prefer.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, You just said O'Reilly having different beliefs makes him a Bigot?

Quote me saying Bill O'Reilly is a bigot because he has different beliefs. Please quote that mythical statement.

Haven't you been arguing this whole time that he's a Bigot for not liking Gay people?

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#360 Hinamizawa

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How's that relevant? It just explains what some sheep prefer.Snipes_2

It explains how homosexuality is found in species of animals other than humans.

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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
[QUOTE="iowastate"] this discussion is supposed to be about Fox News....where the heck are you guys going with this?coolbeans90

Thread derailment often happens in OT. :P

This one was perhaps the most massive derailment I've ever seen.

It still has to do with FOX somewhat. The current derailment stems from Bill being a bigot toward gays. Bill is a member of the FOX news team. It's not THAT massive. ...Though it's still derailed.

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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
[QUOTE="iowastate"] this discussion is supposed to be about Fox News....where the heck are you guys going with this?coolbeans90

Thread derailment often happens in OT. :P

This one was perhaps the most massive derailment I've ever seen.

I've seen far worse. At least homosexuality is quickly related back the the original topic (homosexuality > Bill O'Reilly is bigoted against homosexuals > Bill O'Reilly & the rest of FOX News).

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Those acts are not done for Pleasure, they are done for purely social purposes. Which is what I said about the Monkeys. Ninja-Hippo

Heterosexual relations often occur purely for pleasure. Is that wrong too?

Uh, no they don't just Occur for pleasure in Animals.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, You just said O'Reilly having different beliefs makes him a Bigot?

Quote me saying Bill O'Reilly is a bigot because he has different beliefs. Please quote that mythical statement.

Haven't you been arguing this whole time that he's a Bigot for not liking Gay people?

He's been saying that Bill is a bigot because he doesn't like gay people (which would make him a bigot) not that Bill is a bigot because he has different beliefs. That distinction is important.

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#365 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, You just said O'Reilly having different beliefs makes him a Bigot?

Quote me saying Bill O'Reilly is a bigot because he has different beliefs. Please quote that mythical statement.

Haven't you been arguing this whole time that he's a Bigot for not liking Gay people?

Not liking a person because they are gay is not a belief. >_> Thinking homosexuality is wrong? That's a belief. Hating people because they are homosexual which you think is wrong, is not a belief. Bill O'Reilly constantly gay-bashing because he doesn't agree with homosexuality is being a bigot. Your comment about gay people perhaps being negative towards those who thing homosexuality is wrong is entirely irrelevant. Just because you can find bad behaviour elsewhere does not excuse or justify it in any way.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]How's that relevant? It just explains what some sheep prefer.Hinamizawa

It explains how homosexuality is found in species of animals other than humans.

Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes.

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#367 BumFluff122

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Those acts are not done for Pleasure, they are done for purely social purposes. Which is what I said about the Monkeys. Snipes_2

Heterosexual relations often occur purely for pleasure. Is that wrong too?

Uh, no they don't just Occur for pleasure in Animals.

They most certainly do. How do you coem to the conclusion that they don't just occur for pleasure in animals? Animals consist of a very wide range of intellectual capacity with the feeling of pleasure being stronger with the larger intellect of the species.

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#368 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Uh, no they don't just Occur for pleasure in Animals.

You missed the point. >_> You're saying animals being homosexual does not 'count' as being natural because they happen for social reasons, not pleasure. Therefore, if they were doing it for 'pleasure' you'd concede that that is ok, right? Well, heterosexual couples do it for pleasure all the time, which you say you have no problem with. Why does that not apply to homosexuals?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Quote me saying Bill O'Reilly is a bigot because he has different beliefs. Please quote that mythical statement.

Haven't you been arguing this whole time that he's a Bigot for not liking Gay people?

Not liking a person because they are gay is not a belief. >_> Thinking homosexuality is wrong? That's a belief. Hating people because they are homosexual which you think is wrong, is not a belief. Bill O'Reilly constantly gay-bashing because he doesn't agree with homosexuality is being a bigot. Your comment about gay people perhaps being negative towards those who thing homosexuality is wrong is entirely irrelevant. Just because you can find bad behaviour elsewhere does not excuse or justify it in any way.

How does Disagreeing with something make you a Bigot. Speaking out against Fox News just because it's "Right Wing" would make a Bigot too?

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You still haven't answered my question. [QUOTE="scorch-62"]Christ . . . Mammals.Birds.Fish.Reptiles.Amphibians.Insects and other invertebrates. So you're telling me that each and every one of those species on each of those lists partake in an unnatural activity that has been observed IN NATURE?

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#371 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Snipes_2, is it not possible to believe that homosexuality is wrong in line with your christian beliefs but, at the same time, leave people alone and let them be homosexual if they want? Why is it that yours or Bill O'Reilly's or anyone's else's views should be used to 'speak out' AGAINST people doing nothing wrong and of no harm to you just because you personally disagree with that way of life? Are we incapable of getting through life on a live and let live philosophy?

Do you not agree with this sentiment, Snipes?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Uh, no they don't just Occur for pleasure in Animals.

You missed the point. >_> You're saying animals being homosexual does not 'count' as being natural because they happen for social reasons, not pleasure. Therefore, if they were doing it for 'pleasure' you'd concede that that is ok, right? Well, heterosexual couples do it for pleasure all the time, which you say you have no problem with. Why does that not apply to homosexuals?

Heterosexuals doing that for pleasure is wrong in my opinion too. That's why we have all these Diseases. I never said I didn't have a Problem with it.

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[QUOTE="Hinamizawa"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]How's that relevant? It just explains what some sheep prefer.Snipes_2

It explains how homosexuality is found in species of animals other than humans.

Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes.

Wasn't part of your point that homosexuality was wrong because it was unnatural? Now you've been shown that it occurs in nature and you're saying that doesn't make it right. What makes anything right then?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Snipes_2, is it not possible to believe that homosexuality is wrong in line with your christian beliefs but, at the same time, leave people alone and let them be homosexual if they want? Why is it that yours or Bill O'Reilly's or anyone's else's views should be used to 'speak out' AGAINST people doing nothing wrong and of no harm to you just because you personally disagree with that way of life? Are we incapable of getting through life on a live and let live philosophy?

Do you not agree with this sentiment, Snipes?

No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?

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#375 Allicrombie

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Fox News is like CNN's version of Comedy Central. =P

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#376 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] How does Disagreeing with something make you a Bigot. Speaking out against Fox News just because it's "Right Wing" would make a Bigot too?

You're going round in circles. For the last time: 'I think homosexuality is wrong' - not being a bigot. 'I think homosexuality is wrong and i do not like you because you are a homosexual and think you should be kept away from children.' = bigot. If you continue to repeat this same thing again ie 'just having a different belief doesn't mean you're a bigot!' i see no further point in discussing this, as i've said that literally at no point whatsoever and have had to repeat the above about a dozen times.

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Believe it or not, people have differences of opinion.. sSubZerOo

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Impossible! Everyone knows that no one is a convservative, they're just something Rush Limbaugh invented so he would have an excuse to yell about things.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Hinamizawa"]It explains how homosexuality is found in species of animals other than humans.Ace6301

Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes.

Wasn't part of your point that homosexuality was wrong because it was unnatural? Now you've been shown that it occurs in nature and you're saying that doesn't make it right. What makes anything right then?

Just because it occurs in nature for Social Reasons does not mean it's a natural thing. It's a Deformation of Cells in the Brain apparently in those sheep.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Uh, no they don't just Occur for pleasure in Animals. Snipes_2

You missed the point. >_> You're saying animals being homosexual does not 'count' as being natural because they happen for social reasons, not pleasure. Therefore, if they were doing it for 'pleasure' you'd concede that that is ok, right? Well, heterosexual couples do it for pleasure all the time, which you say you have no problem with. Why does that not apply to homosexuals?

Heterosexuals doing that for pleasure is wrong in my opinion too. That's why we have all these Diseases. I never said I didn't have a Problem with it.

OMG the ignorance is heavy in this post.

Sexual diseases can be transmitted no matter your sexual preference.

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#380 Hinamizawa

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Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes. Snipes_2

Even if it was for social purposes (which it isn't), I highly doubt that the ram has a sense of right and wrong. I don't know how many morals they have.

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#381 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Snipes_2, is it not possible to believe that homosexuality is wrong in line with your christian beliefs but, at the same time, leave people alone and let them be homosexual if they want? Why is it that yours or Bill O'Reilly's or anyone's else's views should be used to 'speak out' AGAINST people doing nothing wrong and of no harm to you just because you personally disagree with that way of life? Are we incapable of getting through life on a live and let live philosophy? Snipes_2

Do you not agree with this sentiment, Snipes?

No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?

That is hardly the same thing. >_> You know very well what i'm saying. There is no reason what you cannot have your beliefs and let others live their lives if they're doing you or anyone else no harm at all.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] How does Disagreeing with something make you a Bigot. Speaking out against Fox News just because it's "Right Wing" would make a Bigot too?

You're going round in circles. For the last time: 'I think homosexuality is wrong' - not being a bigot. 'I think homosexuality is wrong and i do not like you because you are a homosexual and think you should be kept away from children.' = bigot. If you continue to repeat this same thing again ie 'just having a different belief doesn't mean you're a bigot!' i see no further point in discussing this, as i've said that literally at no point whatsoever and have had to repeat the above about a dozen times.

I'm not going around in Circles, I responded to your post. He believes it would be detrimental to the Children, so he's a Bigot for that? I don't get the Mentality.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Do you not agree with this sentiment, Snipes?

No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?

That is hardly the same thing. >_> You know very well what i'm saying. There is no reason what you cannot have your beliefs and let others have theirs if they're doing you or anyone else no harm at all.

By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]Snipes_2, is it not possible to believe that homosexuality is wrong in line with your christian beliefs but, at the same time, leave people alone and let them be homosexual if they want? Why is it that yours or Bill O'Reilly's or anyone's else's views should be used to 'speak out' AGAINST people doing nothing wrong and of no harm to you just because you personally disagree with that way of life? Are we incapable of getting through life on a live and let live philosophy? Snipes_2

Do you not agree with this sentiment, Snipes?

No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?

How does 2 people sleeping with each other/having a relationship and not surpressing their feelings affect you?

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?Snipes_2

That is hardly the same thing. >_> You know very well what i'm saying. There is no reason what you cannot have your beliefs and let others have theirs if they're doing you or anyone else no harm at all.

By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs.

How?

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#386 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I'm not going around in Circles, I responded to your post. He believes it would be detrimental to the Children, so he's a Bigot for that? I don't get the Mentality.

EVERY TIME you say 'so if some disagrees they're a bigot?' or something of that nature you go around in circles, because i have explained literally about a dozen times that that is not what i have said and not the case. Yes? Can we agree on that and stop repeating ourselves? Saying all gay people should be kept away from kids is OF COURSE being a bigot, as you are not simply having a belief that homosexuality is wrong but acting on that and attempting to impose your world view on others in having their lives restricted.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes. Snipes_2

Wasn't part of your point that homosexuality was wrong because it was unnatural? Now you've been shown that it occurs in nature and you're saying that doesn't make it right. What makes anything right then?

Just because it occurs in nature for Social Reasons does not mean it's a natural thing. It's a Deformation of Cells in the Brain apparently in those sheep.

Did you know something called "evolution" happens because of random mutations?

With your line of reason all humans are unnatural and wrong because we only have 46 chromosomes (with the extra pair fused with chromosome 2).

Our ancestors had 48 chromosomes.

SO all humans are unnatural and wrong so therefore we should force humans to not be....humans.

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#388 Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No I don't Sympathize with that. You can't get through life one a "Live and Let Live" philosophy because for example if we just let the people in Waco Live and Let live, where would we be today?

That is hardly the same thing. >_> You know very well what i'm saying. There is no reason what you cannot have your beliefs and let others have theirs if they're doing you or anyone else no harm at all.

By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs.

Explain how a gay person going about their daily life in peace and harmony harms you.

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By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

Or you could just mind your own business...

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Okay...Doesn't mean it's right. And I don't think those Rams are doing it for any other reason than that there are either no more females left (Lol) or it's for social purposes. Snipes_2

Wasn't part of your point that homosexuality was wrong because it was unnatural? Now you've been shown that it occurs in nature and you're saying that doesn't make it right. What makes anything right then?

Just because it occurs in nature for Social Reasons does not mean it's a natural thing. It's a Deformation of Cells in the Brain apparently in those sheep.

if it occurs in nature than I would assume that would mean it's natural. A deformation of cells in the brain is still natural you know. The fact is there is no good reason to oppose homosexuality. It's not contagious, it's not going to hurt heterosexuals and it's never going to be common enough to put the species in danger because of a lack of mating couples. Please, give me one legit reason to not allow homosexuals to be treated as equals.

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I don't think mods really need to defend a news channel. :?

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You still haven't answered my question.scorch-62

nor mine :( Here it is again:

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Opposing a Black Person because he's robbing you isn't Bigotry, Opposing him just because of his skin color is. Opposing a Gay man because you don't Agree with his Lifestyle however, is not Bigotry. Race and Orientation are two separate thingssmc91352

what do you mean by "opposing?"

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#393 super_mario_128

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By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Christ what, they don't do any harm to your beliefs. No harm whatsoever.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] That is hardly the same thing. >_> You know very well what i'm saying. There is no reason what you cannot have your beliefs and let others have theirs if they're doing you or anyone else no harm at all. SgtKevali

By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs.

How?

My Religious beliefs are Against Homosexuality as are my Social Beliefs.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. super_mario_128

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Christ what, they don't do any harm to your beliefs. No harm whatsoever.

So, If my Beliefs don't agree with Homosexuality and it's permitted. That's not doing anything to my Beliefs?

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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

How?

My Religious beliefs are Against Homosexuality as are my Social Beliefs.

You didn't answer the question.

How does homosexuality harm them?

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#397 Hinamizawa

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My Religious beliefs are Against Homosexuality as are my Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

Stepping in fresh gum on the sidewalk is against my social beliefs as well. Don't see me complaining about it.

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Wasn't part of your point that homosexuality was wrong because it was unnatural? Now you've been shown that it occurs in nature and you're saying that doesn't make it right. What makes anything right then? Ace6301

Just because it occurs in nature for Social Reasons does not mean it's a natural thing. It's a Deformation of Cells in the Brain apparently in those sheep.

if it occurs in nature than I would assume that would mean it's natural. A deformation of cells in the brain is still natural you know. The fact is there is no good reason to oppose homosexuality. It's not contagious, it's not going to hurt heterosexuals and it's never going to be common enough to put the species in danger because of a lack of mating couples. Please, give me one legit reason to not allow homosexuals to be treated as equals.

A Deformation I don't think is natural. They are already treated as equals. Places where Gay Marriage is legal, around 4% got married after 5-10 Years.

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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Christ what, they don't do any harm to your beliefs. No harm whatsoever.

So, If my Beliefs don't agree with Homosexuality and it's permitted. That's not doing anything to my Beliefs?

Nope. Your beliefs are still there, aren't they?

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#400 super_mario_128

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[QUOTE="super_mario_128"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]By allowing this they are doing harm to my Religious and Social Beliefs. Snipes_2

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Christ what, they don't do any harm to your beliefs. No harm whatsoever.

So, If my Beliefs don't agree with Homosexuality and it's permitted. That's not doing anything to my Beliefs?

You're still allowed to have these beliefs. Unless you're having doubts about these beliefs yourself, they aren't harmed in any way.

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