French Senate passes ban on full Muslim veils

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So then this isn't a religious issue now?LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Yes, because criminals, now that masks are banned, will all stop wearing them when they commit crimes. :| Otherwise, what's there to fear? If a person will commit a crime in a mask then they'll do it whether it's legal or not. If they're not gonna commit a crime, why ban it? And YOU assume that every woman who wears this is forced to do so, when that is not the case. Have you ever been to a mosque? Ever spoke to a woman wearing a veil? I assure you, some just like it.Theokhoth

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] Since when was religion an issue in public schools? It's not even allowed in the United States' schools. :|Theokhoth

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However, covering one's face is not the same....

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No I assume that the culture takes away choice. Don't tell me what I think. And again.....you're not allowed to go around in public masked. Masks are generally put on by criminals right before entering a target so they don't get stopped for...well wearing a mask.;)LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Thus society can make laws that stop the wearing of veils. See how that works.

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However, covering one's face is not the same....

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] How 'bout you don't tell me what I think? :| And yes you can go out in public masked. I've done it. I've been with people who've done it. There is no law saying you cannot do it, at the very least in my state. And you skipped the point. Banning masks won't stop criminals from wearing them. Just like they don't now, if masks actually are illegal. ;)

Theokhoth

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So how are they planning on enforcing this law? Fines? Arrest?

Finally. Excellent decision, I am pleasantly surprised. This should be passed in all of the EU.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I took issue with the necessarily since it implies there is a problem with some women being forced to wear them.....but that is not of import to him.LJS9502_basic

This arguement never makes sense to me.

"We shall give women more freedom by making it illegal for women to wear certain clothing".

Wait a minute....

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] No I assume that the culture takes away choice. Don't tell me what I think. And again.....you're not allowed to go around in public masked. Masks are generally put on by criminals right before entering a target so they don't get stopped for...well wearing a mask.;)LJS9502_basic

If I'm breaking the law, why do I care if it's illegal to wear a veil?

People keep stating it's illegal for you to wear a ski mask in public but that doesn't stop robbers from doing that. Again, this makes no sense. Criminals will do it regardless of if it's illegal because THEY'RE CRIMINALS.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"] How 'bout you don't tell me what I think? :| And yes you can go out in public masked. I've done it. I've been with people who've done it. There is no law saying you cannot do it, at the very least in my state. And you skipped the point. Banning masks won't stop criminals from wearing them. Just like they don't now, if masks actually are illegal. ;)

Pixel-Pirate

If I'm breaking the law, why do I care if it's illegal to wear a veil?

People keep stating it's illegal for you to wear a ski mask in public but that doesn't stop robbers from doing that. Again, this makes no sense. Criminals will do it regardless of if it's illegal because THEY'RE CRIMINALS.

Gee, maybe it narrows down the people who are criminals to the ones wearing the ski masks.Normal citizens won't be doing so, which makes the police's job that much easier.

I was for this at one point, but I can't help but think this is just a part of the insidious anti-Islam sentiment that's creeping into government thinking in Europe. There's an argument to made for its banning for sure, but it's never caused any problems before - it seems borne more out of irrational fear more than anything else and serves only to reinforce irrational public thinking whilst further alienating Islam in the process. The issue of women's rights I do agree with however - I'm just not sure this is the right way to go about tackling that particular issue.

While forgetting secular Islamic cultures like Egypt.. Which are quite accepting and what not..

sSubZerOo

They aren't as accepting as Western nations.

Freedom of religion and expression.

(unless you're Muslim)

Freedom of religion and expression.

(unless you're Muslim)

metroidfood

It's another stupid law against Islam and Muslims.

Watch out guys, that Muslim women might be hiding a Rocket Launcher under her head scarf!

:roll:

It should only be banned for attractive arab women. Some of them can be pretty hot, although you would never know because their husbands are trying to hide them for themselves under those veils.

It's another stupid law against Islam and Muslims.

Watch out guys, that Muslim women might be hiding a Rocket Launcher under her head scarf!

:roll:

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