[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]You're not allowed to go around naked in France, so why should you be allowed to go around fully covered up?Sajo7:lol: Suddenly I want to demand my right to walk around nude.I know, right? All the people who support women covering themselves up fully should also support people if they wish to walk around fully nude and with just as much vigour to boot.
French Senate passes ban on full Muslim veils
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My question is this to the Europeans out there.. or perhaps anyone with any knowledge out there.
How come when i visit Muslim communities in the United States. In Texas, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illanois and then random encounters i've had in California and other states. I strongly get the impression that they're assimilate quite well with American culture. about the only notiiceable difference you'll see with the women is that the majority wear the hijab.
(i could probably provide more pics...)
but point is, in their language, what they talk about and even what they wear (with one difference being possibly wearing the hijab in some fashion) they're basically Americans who are Muslims. people who come from all corners of the Earth. In the photos i provided alone, one is Yemeni-Saudi, Somali, Malay, and Nigeria. There are like an extremely few women i have ever seen (once in a blue moon in Minnesota) a woman wearing the niqaba and whole covering.
So my main question is why is it America and Canada can assimilate and incorporate various people very well. where as Europe seems to at best just open the door at the immigration?
(just for some lulz)
As far as I'm concerned, the Niqab is a means of opressing women.
"blablabla, they may actually want to"...
Don't tell me anyone could possibly want to dress like this unless being specifically brought up to that mindset.
As far as I'm concerned, the Niqab is a means of opressing women.
"blablabla, they may actually want to"...
Don't tell me anyone could possibly want to dress like this unless being specifically brought up to that mindset.
Filthybastrd
"No one could possibly want to do something I wouldn't want to do! It's not like there are 6 billion people on the planet with different mindsets!"
I know, right? All the people who support women covering themselves up fully should also support people if they wish to walk around fully nude and with just as much vigour to boot.
Hexagon_777
As far as I'm concerned, the Niqab is a means of opressing women.
"blablabla, they may actually want to"...
Don't tell me anyone could possibly want to dress like this unless being specifically brought up to that mindset.
Filthybastrd
The term i think your thinking of is called Socialization.
but before you judge. i'd recommend reading on the word Ethnocentrism as well (everyone is guilty of it if you've been raised mainly in only one society).
[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]
As far as I'm concerned, the Niqab is a means of opressing women.
"blablabla, they may actually want to"...
Don't tell me anyone could possibly want to dress like this unless being specifically brought up to that mindset.
SaudiFury
The term i think your thinking of is called Socialization.
but before you judge. i'd recommend reading on the word Ethnocentrism as well (everyone is guilty of it if you've been raised mainly in only one society).
Yes but yet again you can't help pointing out that this garb is most popular and used in places like Saudi Arabia and Iran.. Not in places like Egypt.. Furthermore if we are going to make this suggestion why is female circumcision banned? Where the women who do it fully believe its their passage to adulthood.. Its painful? There are quite a few rights of passages that are painful that people agree to do.. This is hardly a excuse.
Yeah, just look at this terrorist hiding in plain sight.
metroidfood
Granted of course, that it isn't Halloween every day of the year, and anyone wearing a plastic mask in public is usually seen as very suspicious (how many times have people robbed banks wearing Richard Nixon masks?). As a security guard, I have come to understand why this is a threat to security. If a police officer is chasing a suspect whom they can identify by means of the face, then what is stopping them from adorning a Muslim veil and hiding among a group of women in plain sight? Or if someone comes onto my site wearing something covering their face, and I have to identify them in order to allow them access (via ID badge), then what is stopping someone from stealing the ID badge and playing impostor?
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]
[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]
As far as I'm concerned, the Niqab is a means of opressing women.
"blablabla, they may actually want to"...
Don't tell me anyone could possibly want to dress like this unless being specifically brought up to that mindset.
EdenProxy
"No one could possibly want to do something I wouldn't want to do! It's not like there are 6 billion people on the planet with different mindsets!"
They have that midset cause thats how they've been raised. Same with American women in the 18th and 19 centuries. They wear this because there families and society makes them.Did you know there are people who also enjoy being hit?
Just because something sounds unpleasent to you, does not mean all 6 billion people on the planet would also dislike it. Or that, if they do like it, theres some conspiracy brainwashing going.
Don't generalize THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE as believing something. Theres really nothing that all 6 billion people agree with. Saying that the only people who could possibly want to wear that are brainwash victims/don't exist is just silly.
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