Gay marriage is constitutional 5-4

@vfibsux: Are you married?

"You got your way"? That sounds utterly pathetic. This wouldn't have been such a large issue if same-sex marriage would have just been allowed in the first place. But no, not here in America, where a combination of religious fundamentalism and archaic ideals tried their best to stop this at every corner. So yes, instead of a piecemeal approach to overturning individuals bans at the state level, it is finally over. We can move on and tackle other issues.

So does that mean my concealed carry permit is legal in all 50 states now too?

"I don't care"

Is that why you have been posting in several LGBT threads?

Also, whats with the persecutary delusion? In a country where 80% of the population are christian and the majority are white, I seriously doubt you will ever be persecuted.

So several to you means 2 eh? Counting this one?

This is what is funny about you people, when I say "i don't care if you're gay" that does not mean I have nothing to say about the subject. I sincerely don't care if gay people marry, it does nothing to my life. What is affecting my life is having to hear about it every freaking day, and having it taking up the time of our government when they should be concentrating on more important things. Now they can. I am happy.

I am, and thankfully now anyone that wants to marry can. We can move on.

So we're blaming gay people for making gay marriage an issue? It wouldn't have been an issue if people hadn't tried to stop it. If gay people were just allowed to be married in the first place and recognized as such, then y'all could go ahead and have your discussions about "important things"

I agree but it sounds a bit hypocritical to say "there's more important things than giving other people a right that I've been enjoying". I don't think you meant it the way it sounded...or at least I hope not.

blah blah blah whatever. You see, I am someone who would have voted yes for gay marriage, but since I am not bowing down and kissing ass about it I am still the enemy. Whatever dude.

i think you need to settle down, dude

lol, settle down? Why? Because I did not bow down and kiss your ass? If you are going to criticize me for something I am going to respond to it. You are typical of this conversation, you can't even tell when someone is on your side. Sometimes you want allies that share the same goal as you even if you are not in it for the same reasons. You might want to learn that about life, it can help you.

blah blah blah whatever. You see, I am someone who would have voted yes for gay marriage, but since I am not bowing down and kissing ass about it I am still the enemy. Whatever dude.

I am not going to tell you that I am happy it passed because I support homosexual marriage, I simply don't care either way. I rather they allow it across the country so it can be a non-issue, not because I felt bad that a man could not marry a man. I do not think it was important enough to support or protest. Just being honest, I don't care if you can marry another man. I do care if your wanting to marry another man is so distracting that it becomes a major political issue. I rather they just go and give you that right than keep it an issue. Make sense? I am not pretending to be some proponent here. If this were adults trying to marry 8 year olds I would stand up against it, consenting adults wanting to be gay? Who gives a shit? Have at it, just stop pushing me around with it. Now that they got what they want hopefully that will be the end of it and we can all move on.

rofl. What do you think? I am over here throwing chairs and shit? lol. Trust me, I am calm, I am laughing as I type this....

I get what you are saying, however the only way change comes about is by making a big political issue over it. Otherwise what are politicians' motivations to change anything if it is not an issue of their constituents?

dude, calm down

No need to act so aggressive

@vfibsux: @comp_atkins: You guys are so mean....making me think people are actually wanting to talk to me when it's just you guys using me in your quote chains ='(

Alright dude, now you're just trolling me.

@vfibsux: people are taking you the wrong way because your first post made it seem like you viewed this result as petulant children getting thier way as opposed to the rights victory that it is.

That's just the thing though, it should have never been a big deal to begin with. I would expect a little fight at first, but it went on way too long. Part of the reason is these politicians drag these things out. The democrats didn't want this resolved, they wanted to keep it an issue. They just lost one of their talking points. I am glad it is over.

And I don't think the pledge of allegiance actually functions as a legal guideline for the country

No, I honestly think you should stop acting so aggressive

( edit, sorry korvus, you're just not popular )

A guideline? sure let's say it doesn't.

But does it change the fact that in Murica, you pledge allegiance to a "nation under god" you swear to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god" on a bible. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

So no Murica might not be a theocracy which wasn't my point. My point was just that religion is a major role in America's government and life, and that this way of thinking and the 1st amendment is most certainly under "attack".

And who wants to bet that we soon will hear about Gay couples who are suing their local church because they refuse to marry them. Because remember all this decision does is decided that the government has to accept marriage as not just Man and women. Religion is still free to do what they want, well almost. Think we have seen what happens if a bakery decide to act on their religious beliefs.

Are my words scaring you? Seriously man lol, what are you talking about?

A guideline? sure let's say it doesn't.

But does it change the fact that in Murica, you pledge allegiance to a "nation under god" you swear to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god" on a bible. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

So no Murica might not be a theocracy which wasn't my point. My point was just that religion is a major role in America's government and life, and that this way of thinking and the 1st amendment is most certainly under "attack".

And who wants to bet that we soon will hear about Gay couples who are suing their local church because they refuse to marry them. Because remember all this decision does is decided that the government has to accept marriage as not just Man and women. Religion is still free to do what they want, well almost. Think we have seen what happens if a bakery decide to act on their religious beliefs.

that you seem to feel the need to be overly aggressive in this topic, which you claim to not really care about. So just let it go

Wow. Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia are quite some hideous, scumsucking human beings. They're single-handedly trying to keep our society in the stone-ages in terms of progression.

Aren't we a democracy though?

Why couldn't we just have WE THE PEOPLE vote on it?

Aren't we a democracy though?

Why couldn't we just have WE THE PEOPLE vote on it?

A majority voting to determine the civil rights of a minority is completely against all of our founding principles. We are not a simple mob rules democracy, a system like that is what gets you stuff like Hamas running the government of Palestine, and look how that has turned out. In a democracy two wolves and a sheep vote on whats for dinner. In a Democratic Republic (what we have) two wolves and a sheep vote on whats for dinner, but their are strict rules on the books that say sheep is not on the menu.

A guideline? sure let's say it doesn't.

But does it change the fact that in Murica, you pledge allegiance to a "nation under god" you swear to "tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me god" on a bible. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

So no Murica might not be a theocracy which wasn't my point. My point was just that religion is a major role in America's government and life, and that this way of thinking and the 1st amendment is most certainly under "attack".

And who wants to bet that we soon will hear about Gay couples who are suing their local church because they refuse to marry them. Because remember all this decision does is decided that the government has to accept marriage as not just Man and women. Religion is still free to do what they want, well almost. Think we have seen what happens if a bakery decide to act on their religious beliefs.

Wow. Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia are quite some hideous, scumsucking human beings. They're single-handedly trying to keep our society in the stone-ages in terms of progression.

Aren't we a democracy though?

Why couldn't we just have WE THE PEOPLE vote on it?

Wow. Roberts, Alito, Thomas, and Scalia are quite some hideous, scumsucking human beings. They're single-handedly trying to keep our society in the stone-ages in terms of progression.

I wouldn't mind if we did quite the shakeup in SCOTUS. There are far too many members of scotus who really are nothing more than ideologues in robes, this goes to both the liberal and conservative side. Roberts was the only person on the anti gay marriage side whose reasoning was not that I would expect from a 10 year old child.

If that was the case, I am sure gays would have been able to marry a long time ago. Since the majority of americans were in favor of it.

In fact, 60% of all republicans under 50 were in favor of gay marriage. Showing that there is indeed hope for the republican party.

Just a reminder: Use of the word gay as a derogatory term (as in to say something sucks) was against the ToU way back when, and it's still in effect today. We just removed a few with no penalties, but any more from this point on WILL be moderated. Fair warning to everyone.

And of course, if anyone thinks I'm being unfair about this, feel free to let the admins know.

@MakeMeaSammitch: Per a Capita blacks commit far more violent crimes. They also kill whites far more then whites kill blacks. That is a fact, are you saying that the numbers are so high because they are wrongly accused?

The rest of your stats are nothing more then random BS. They have more opportunity then any race out there. More free scholarships(yet are the least educated). And laws that require them to be hired even if they don't meet qualifications! How can nobody wants to hire black people yet we have a black President? Did you ever think job opportunities may not be quite as good because they may not be as qualified?

I don't support gay marriage. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. The supreme court ruled it is legal. The supreme court also ruled slavery was legal. Gays can get married by a justice of the peace but not necessarily in a church by a minister. Religious rights are protected by the constitution. This was forced on 97.7 % by 2.3% of the people and the court. Gay marriage is definitely not steeled and that is the truth of the matter.

Except you don't have to swear to god nor on a bible

I like the snow, igloo homes, and the old star forts in Canada. Everything else... meh.

As for my pic, I can do what I want and that's to give a thumbs down to the new American nation of desolation.

If you look at each state , it seemed like they were perfectly able to vote on that matter. why do you think it passed in most states before this decision.

So not sure where you got the idea that people shouldn´t or could vote on such matters. the only problem in some states are republican governors who vetoed propositions but if the people really didn't like that they could just stop voting for the guy, not to mention that they can only sit 2 terms. That is what democracy after all is all about, not having some fat judges who are older than dust sit in a supreme court and decide.

That is in fact kinda the definition of tyranny, so imagine the outcry if they had voted against it.