Georgia appeals for help over Russian "invasion".

"TBILISI (Reuters) - Georgia called for international intervention on Monday and pulled its battered forces back to the capital, as Russian troops pushed deep into its territory, ignoring Western pleas to halt.

"The Georgian army is retreating to defend the capital. The Government is urgently seeking international intervention to prevent the fall of Georgia," a Georgian statement said.

President Mikheil Saakashvili said Russian forces had taken control of Georgia's main east-west route, effectively bisecting the country. He urged Georgians to stay home and not panic."

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL768040420080811

Do you think someone will step in? I sure hope not.

Nah...the UN won't care.

Edit: Out of curiousity...why are you against them getting help?

Nah...the UN won't care.

LJS9502_basic

Russia is on the security council, there is no way anything comes from the UN.

Nah...the UN won't care.

Edit: Out of curiousity...why are you against them getting help?

LJS9502_basic

To prevent escalation?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Nah...the UN won't care.

Edit: Out of curiousity...why are you against them getting help?

loco145

To prevent escalation?

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Nah...the UN won't care.

Edit: Out of curiousity...why are you against them getting help?

LJS9502_basic

To prevent escalation?

Unfortunatly, it seems so because no one wants to interfere or wants to be the first because they may be alone and gain new and old grudges while the nation still falls.

To prevent escalation? loco145

Unfortunatly, it seems so because no one wants to interfere or wants to be the first because they may be alone and gain new and old grudges while the nation still falls.

AgileNate

Russian troops will be in Tbilisi in a few days. Mark my words. And the West won't do anything about it. Saakashvili and his government will go ingloriously into exile, while a pro-Russian administration gets set up. The Georgian army is likely to get disarmed, with the Russians possibly forcing quotas onto how many men it can recruit and how many heavy weapons it may have.

And the West will forgive all of this. Unfortunately, since Europe gets about a quarter of its gas from Russia, the EU won't want to do anything about it.

It sounds just like the storyline in Ghost Recon... except that the US won't be coming to help in any way.

[QUOTE="loco145"]To prevent escalation? Omni-Slash

So, do you think that Russia is going for Turkey after they are done with Georgia?

So, do you think that Russia is going for Turkey after they are done with Georgia?

loco145

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="loco145"]To prevent escalation? loco145

So, do you think that Russia is going for Turkey after they are done with Georgia?

Doubt it. The Turks haven't done very much to provoke the Russians, perhaps beyond supplying Georgia with some electricity during this conflict.

The Russian possibly certainly can invade Turkey, but it's not going to benefit the Russians in any way whatsoever.

[QUOTE="AgileNate"]

Unfortunatly, it seems so because no one wants to interfere or wants to be the first because they may be alone and gain new and old grudges while the nation still falls.

LJS9502_basic

I agree. Speaking of UK.... What is their opinion on this matter? Im thinking they will be a key factor on USA's action.

Its like the Russians are a group of bullies(dont mean they are bullies) and the others dont want to say anything with the fear they have no back up.

It sounds just like the storyline in Ghost Recon... except that the US won't be coming to help in any way.

The_Capitalist

Im not too aware about this situation? Did Georgia attack first? Regardless, I dont think anyone should interfere.TheBestUserEver

Yes georgia did attack first, they wanted capture south ossetie by bombing it, 90% Russian citizens of that region, so that's why Russia doint it.

Im not too aware about this situation? Did Georgia attack first?TheBestUserEver

Sort of. Georgia attacked rebels in South Ossetia, a region within their country that borders Russia. Some of the casualties included Russian citizens.

This just in....France has surrendered...just thought I'd let everyone know....carry on...Omni-Slash

I laughed so hard at that.

I agree. Speaking of UK.... What is their opinion on this matter? Im thinking they will be a key factor on USA's action.

Its like the Russians are a group of bullies(dont mean they are bullies) and the others dont want to say anything with the fear they have no back up.

AgileNate

[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"][QUOTE="loco145"]To prevent escalation? loco145

So, do you think that Russia is going for Turkey after they are done with Georgia?

I can only imagine this would turn out to be identicle to WWII where G.B. and France warned Germany that pushing into Poland would cause the two nations to declare war. Operation "Case White" all over again

Yes georgia did attack first, they wanted capture south ossetie by bombing it, 90% Russian citizens of that region, so that's why Russia doint it.

Flotsam

They weren't trying to "capture" South Ossetia; they were trying to regain control of their own land.

[QUOTE="Flotsam"]Yes georgia did attack first, they wanted capture south ossetie by bombing it, 90% Russian citizens of that region, so that's why Russia doint it.

Oleg_Huzwog

They weren't trying to "capture" South Ossetia; they were trying to regain control of their own land.

True but most people of it want to be independent from georgia, or to be with russia.

[QUOTE="Flotsam"]Yes georgia did attack first, they wanted capture south ossetie by bombing it, 90% Russian citizens of that region, so that's why Russia doint it.

Oleg_Huzwog

They weren't trying to "capture" South Ossetia; they were trying to regain control of their own land.

Land is only your land if you can control it.

True but most people of it want to be independent from georgia, or to be russia.

Flotsam

That's another "sort of true" statement. The South Ossetians did vote for independence, but they're not recognized by any foreign government (including Russia) due to fraudulent voting. Only ethnic Ossetians were allowed to vote. All other races and ethnicities living in Ossetia were denied the right.

I hope so. They've been a strong supporter of the U.S.Oleg_Huzwog

Well that's hardly surprising, given that the CIA financed Georgia's so-called "Velvet Revolution" in order to secure the Ceyhan oil pipeline. Suck-***-Willy, er I mean "Saakashvili" is for all intents and purposes just another little US puppet.

[QUOTE="Flotsam"]True but most people of it want to be independent from georgia, or to be russia.

Oleg_Huzwog

That's another "sort of true" statement. The South Ossetians did vote for independence, but they're not recognized by any foreign government (including Russia) due to fraudulent voting. Only ethnic Ossetians were allowed to vote. All other races and ethnicities living in Ossetia were denied the right.

Heh, nice. Only people who might vote yes are allowed to vote, nice.

You know that if U.S. troops weren't tied up in Iraq, they might not have figured they could pull this crap.SpaceMoose

that and they're essentially doing the same thing as Iraq.

You know that if U.S. troops weren't tied up in Iraq, they might not have figured they could pull this crap.SpaceMoose

You know that if U.S. troops weren't tied up in Iraq, they might not have figured they could pull this crap.SpaceMoose

I don't think Russia would have taken action if they anticipated a large response.

In fact i think they were surprised by Georgia.

Land is only your land if you can control it.

Hewkii

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

[QUOTE="Hewkii"]Land is only your land if you can control it.

Oleg_Huzwog

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Well, Russia said no. So there goes that 100%.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Hewkii"]Land is only your land if you can control it.

loco145

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Well, Russia said no. So there goes that 100%.

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Hewkii"]Land is only your land if you can control it.

loco145

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Well, Russia said no. So there goes that 100%.

Nope. Russia acknowledges that it's moved into Georgian territory for "peacekeeping" purposes, so the 100% is intact.

I finished reading that and the only thing I said was:

"Oh no..."

If anyone steps in, a war breaks out. Great. If no one steps in, who's to say that Russia won't keep going?

I finished reading that and the only thing I said was:

"Oh no..."

If anyone steps in, a war breaks out. Great. If no one steps in, who's to say that Russia won't keep going?

kerrman

[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="Hewkii"]Land is only your land if you can control it.

Oleg_Huzwog

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Well, Russia said no. So there goes that 100%.

Nope. Russia acknowledges that it's moved into Georgian territory for "peacekeeping" purposes, so the 100% is intact.

Russia was with talks about recognising independence since Kosovo's.

[QUOTE="kerrman"]

I finished reading that and the only thing I said was:

"Oh no..."

If anyone steps in, a war breaks out. Great. If no one steps in, who's to say that Russia won't keep going?

LJS9502_basic

The fact that Russia's moved beyond Ossetia and continues deeper into Georgia suggests you'd have won that bet.