Georgia appeals for help over Russian "invasion".

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#51 kerrman
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You sir, lawl'd my ass right off. I'm scrambling to find it now.

Some how, Red Dawn didn't even pass through my head. lol

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#52 rastaman219
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new just in the UK have shipped out 1,oo hifi system complete with James Blunts CDs to scare off the Russians!

Seriously the Uk should get involved as then that would make things worse

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#53 rastaman219
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new just in the UK have shipped out 1,oo hifi system complete with James Blunts CDs to scare off the Russians!

Seriously the Uk should get involved as then that would make things worse

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#54 Hewkii
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I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Oleg_Huzwog

obviously the seperatists disagree. and since they (had) have control, it wasn't their's for the time being.

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#55 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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The world will do what it always does - look the other way then blame america.
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#56 AgileNate
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With each day the situation looks worse and with Russia going deeper into Georgia its looking like "Case White"(Nazi Code Name plan on invading Poland). I think the situation would look worse if the media wasnt focused on the Olympics.
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#57 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="loco145"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Nah...the UN won't care.

Edit: Out of curiousity...why are you against them getting help?

LJS9502_basic

To prevent escalation?

So sacrifice a country?

Sacrifice one and soon enough you'll find you've lost 6.

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#58 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I disagree. If 100% of the world's governments point to a region of a map and all say "that's part of Georgia", then I'm going to say control isn't required for Georgia to lay claim.

Hewkii

obviously the seperatists disagree. and since they (had) have control, it wasn't their's for the time being.

The Ossetian seperatists' views are no more relevant then those of the Alaska Independence Party. It doesn't matter what they say. You have no sovereign status when exactly zero foreign governments recognize your sovereignty.

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#59 sentencedogu
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Russia wants pro-western Saakashvili out...Russia also wants to finish off Georgia's control over Ossetia and Abkhazia totally....

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#60 UnknownSniper65
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If they do "finish off" Georgia....imo we should rush Ukraine into NATO.
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#61 Anamosa41
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I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

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#62 sentencedogu
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I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

Anamosa41

what does that mean? When did you have the chance? Alternate history is funny in this case...

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#63 EndersAres
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I find this very amusing. They totally deserve this for stiring up the hornets nest. This country is no different than those morons who dangle their legs over an animal cage at the zoo and then cry foul when there leg gets ripped off. I'm also enjoying the blind hate on Russia. Also President Bush's comments on how it is unacceptable in this century are beyond gold. That's like platinum.
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#64 LJS9502_basic  Online
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Sacrifice one and soon enough you'll find you've lost 6.

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I'm going to assume you didn't understand my comment. For the record...I think Russia needs to be stopped.
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Sacrifice one and soon enough you'll find you've lost 6.

LJS9502_basic

I'm going to assume you didn't understand my comment. For the record...I think Russia needs to be stopped.

I actually commented the wrong guy lol

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The Ossetian seperatists' views are no more relevant then those of the Alaska Independence Party. It doesn't matter what they say. You have no sovereign status when exactly zero foreign governments recognize your sovereignty.

Oleg_Huzwog

or the confederates...

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#67 liesandpies
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I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

Anamosa41

Typical response from some brainwashed neo-con American racist.

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#68 loco145
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I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

Anamosa41

When was that?

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[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]

I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

liesandpies

Typical response from some brainwashed neo-con American racist.

I wasn't aware Russian was a race

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#70 Cutekitten6_18
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I know this whole thing is goign on, but i dont know.. WHY is this happening?
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#71 Oleg_Huzwog
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I know this whole thing is goign on, but i dont know.. WHY is this happening?Cutekitten6_18

Google "South Ossetia".

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This just in....France has surrendered...just thought I'd let everyone know....carry on...Omni-Slash
:lol:

That was perfect

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#73 Anamosa41
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[QUOTE="Anamosa41"]

I guess we should have gotten rid of Russia when we had the chance. (Not to say we still couldn't) I just feel sorry for the citizens.

liesandpies

Typical response from some brainwashed neo-con American racist.

Hey! Dude, watch what you say. I'm not talking about just killing them all. I'm talking about taking over during the cold war. They are up to no good, none what-so-ever. My advice to you is to find out what someone is talking about before judging them.
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#74 deniiiii21
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UN wont do anything, they never did by the time they agree on something the two sides probably reached a truce by themselves, just look at Yugoslavia for example, especially Bosnia, serbs were shelling Sarajevo and civilians for 3 years and all UN did was have meetings, nothing ever gets stoped Rwanda genocide Darfur or anything, I think UN is just a phony organizations that is supposed to come to the rescue.
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#75 deniiiii21
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Srebrenica genocide, I can go on and on, I lived in Bosnia from 1992-1996 when the war was waged, there were no super powers fighting, if UN used ground forces and air support it could swiftly had ended the war in a week, it took 250,000 dead 2 million displaced and .5 million wounded in a country of 4.5 million people, and all three sides got tired of fighting and singed a Dayton Truce, and UN didnt do a damn thing, they are useless.
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What did they do to deserve this? Sounds like you all are sure it's their fault ...
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What did they do to deserve this? Sounds like you all are sure it's their fault ... SimpJee

nope, I'm just bored of proxy wars and actually want to see the Russians shooting people. yeah, I may be heartless, but it eases people's tensions, staving off the next big one (well, except the native Georgia people, but as evidenced they aren't that vocal).

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Canada should help and lay waste to Russia.......

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#79 deniiiii21
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They shouldnt have attacked South Ossetia, but Russia has always been brutal, they dont like Georgia so it will probably be a lesson, I am sure Russia wants to send a message not to ever do that again.
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They shouldnt have attacked South Ossetia, but Russia has always been brutal, they dont like Georgia so it will probably be a lesson, I am sure Russia wants to send a message not to ever do that again.deniiiii21
The land was belonged to Georgia.....not Russia.
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#81 DeathHeart95
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Well, we're faced with quite the dilemma here. Either someone steps in and starts World War III, or none does anything and we have another Soviet Union.

Let's just pray to God that Bush isn't in office when we have to make that decision. Just delay it as long as possible.

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#83 Flotsam
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-MILITARY SPENDING: Russia's military budget is equivalent to about $40 billion this year, compared to Georgia's $997 million.

- STRENGTH: Russia has 1.1 million soldiers, Georgia has 37,000.

- ARSENALS: The Russian armed forces have about 6,000 tanks and some 1,700 combat aircraft. Georgia has 230 tanks and 12 combat aircraft.

We shouldnt be allying with breakaway Russian countries to begin with.hummer700

Not true, it has 23000 tanks.

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I hope that the US doesnt get involved. that would escalate the situation into a new World War. If Russia pushes towards Tbilisi I fear for the safety of many people and many countrries.
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I hope that the US doesnt get involved. that would escalate the situation into a new World War. If Russia pushes towards Tbilisi I fear for the safety of many people and many countrries.honkyjoe

Russia is either rebuilding their Soviet empire and America is going to stop them or Russia is making an example out of Georgia and nobody is going to stop them. Which sounds more logical? I'd go with the doomsday scenario, Russia is rebuilding their Soviet empire and we all going to die in a nuclear inferno. :roll:

Why do so many people want a doomsday scenario to happen?

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I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault?
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[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]I hope that the US doesnt get involved. that would escalate the situation into a new World War. If Russia pushes towards Tbilisi I fear for the safety of many people and many countrries.BlackAlpha666

Russia is either rebuilding their Soviet empire and America is going to stop them or Russia is making an example out of Georgia and nobody is going to stop them. Which sounds more logical? I'd go with the doomsday scenario, Russia is rebuilding their Soviet empire and we all going to die in a nuclear inferno. :roll:

Why do so many people want a doomsday scenario to happen?

Russia isn't rebuilding the old Soviet Union...it would be insanely obvious to EVERYONE and I would think they would have started by taking Ukraine first

corning the market for oil in the area seems more likely, however.

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#88 xXBuffJeffXx
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We shouldn't do anything about this beyond condemning it for the time being. There is nothing to be gained by getting militarily or economically involved and escalating this. I suspect the Russians are just trying to prove a point and will go back to being relatively docile once this is over. If they continue to attempt reabsorption of former Soviet Bloc countries...we have a huge problem. I am worried over an increasingly unilateral, litigious, xenophobic, and hyper-national Russia, but the same thing could be argued over the United States, really.
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[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]I hope that the US doesnt get involved. that would escalate the situation into a new World War. If Russia pushes towards Tbilisi I fear for the safety of many people and many countrries.BlackAlpha666

Russia is either rebuilding their Soviet empire and America is going to stop them or Russia is making an example out of Georgia and nobody is going to stop them. Which sounds more logical? I'd go with the doomsday scenario, Russia is rebuilding their Soviet empire and we all going to die in a nuclear inferno. :roll:

Why do so many people want a doomsday scenario to happen?

Russia has no goals in this affair other than to answer the call of freedom.

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I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? SolidSnake35
Because no one will step up and help them. Russia is doing what Russia always does....and the west allows it.:(
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I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? SolidSnake35

military force?

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I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? SolidSnake35

The same thing that gave the United States the "right" to invade Iraq unilaterally.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? xXBuffJeffXx

The same thing that gave the United States the "right" to invade Iraq unilaterally.

Not that I agree with the Iraq War but there are a few differences between the two.....
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? LJS9502_basic
Because no one will step up and help them. Russia is doing what Russia always does....and the west allows it.:(

So if we do nothing will Georgia lose its independence?
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#95 Hewkii
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So if we do nothing will Georgia lose its independence? SolidSnake35

looks like it. or at least a Russian puppet government. but it's not like that tactic isn't already used by other nations.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? xXBuffJeffXx

The same thing that gave the United States the "right" to invade Iraq unilaterally.

The US went to help. Russia just wants to destroy... as far I can tell.
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? xXBuffJeffXx

The same thing that gave the United States the "right" to invade Iraq unilaterally.

the Georgian president was democratically elected...

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[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? LJS9502_basic

The same thing that gave the United States the "right" to invade Iraq unilaterally.

Not that I agree with the Iraq War but there are a few differences between the two.....

Of course there are. My point was simply that nobody could stop the "aggressors" in both instances, so they were essentially free to do whatever they wanted.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]I can't believe no one's helping them yet. What gives Russia the right to continue their assault? SolidSnake35
Because no one will step up and help them. Russia is doing what Russia always does....and the west allows it.:(

So if we do nothing will Georgia lose its independence?

Well...Russia isn't going to give it up.
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[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]

[QUOTE="honkyjoe"]I hope that the US doesnt get involved. that would escalate the situation into a new World War. If Russia pushes towards Tbilisi I fear for the safety of many people and many countrries.mysterylobster

Russia is either rebuilding their Soviet empire and America is going to stop them or Russia is making an example out of Georgia and nobody is going to stop them. Which sounds more logical? I'd go with the doomsday scenario, Russia is rebuilding their Soviet empire and we all going to die in a nuclear inferno. :roll:

Why do so many people want a doomsday scenario to happen?

Russia has no goals in this affair other than to answer the call of freedom.

Sarcasm, right? Even if Georgia wouldn't have killed crap loads of civilians, Russia would still have attacked them for attacking Russian troops. Georgia tried to stab Russia in the back and now they are feeling Russia's wrath. I'm pretty sure Russia is simply showing Georgia their place and making an example out of them. "Mess with us and we invade your country." It's really the same thing the US did after 9/11 and it's a common strategy that many countries have been using since the ancient times. So, really, this is nothing new.