That was the most laughable collection of arguments against Obama I've seen. Please don't tell me you buy into the xenophobic "he's a Muslim" argument. I don't know how anyone can pass off that kind of veiled xenophobia as being in any way acceptable.
I guess that really depends on what you consider experience. Personally I'm not sure how much experience anyone can have when you're new job is to lead the only superpower in the world. And as a Senator he's done a fairly decent job thus far. Not an amazing job, but above average IMO.
That was the most laughable collection of arguments against Obama I've seen. Please don't tell me you buy into the xenophobic "he's a Muslim" argument. I don't know how anyone can pass off that kind of veiled xenophobia as being in any way acceptable. You, sir, are being quite laughable right now.
I cant really think of any. Unless you buy into that whole "He's a Muslim because his name sounds Muslim." BS. In which case you are a very narrowminded moron. Personally I dont care if he was actually Muslim I think I would still vote for him.
That was the most laughable collection of arguments against Obama I've seen. Please don't tell me you buy into the xenophobic "he's a Muslim" argument. I don't know how anyone can pass off that kind of veiled xenophobia as being in any way acceptable. You, sir, are being quite laughable right now.Because I'm not ignorantly afraid of Muslims? Please enlighten me.
I cant really think of any. Unless you buy into that whole "He's a Muslim because his name sounds Muslim." BS. In which case you are a very narrowminded moron. Personally I dont care if he was actually Muslim I think I would still vote for him.
All Muslims are not out to kill you.
SunofVich
No true Muslim would harm any innocent. Al-Qaeda's interpretation of the Quran is stretched at at best.
That was the most laughable collection of arguments against Obama I've seen. Please don't tell me you buy into the xenophobic "he's a Muslim" argument. I don't know how anyone can pass off that kind of veiled xenophobia as being in any way acceptable.
obama wants to raise your taxes (he's made no effort to keep that a secret. everyone's taxes will go up if obama is elected). Obama wants to personally meet with the leaders of rogue states.
mccain wants to lower your taxes and win in Iraq and help Iran and North Korea and other rogue states make the transition to democracy.
fanofazrienoch
WTF? You're serious? I doubt McCain actually wants to do that. Plus, high taxes are a GOOD thing. Don't you want to drive on roads and have a job?
obama wants to raise your taxes (he's made no effort to keep that a secret. everyone's taxes will go up if obama is elected). Obama wants to personally meet with the leaders of rogue states.
mccain wants to lower your taxes and win in Iraq and help Iran and North Korea and other rogue states make the transition to democracy.
He's a liberal democrat. At that, he's a very fresh and inexperienced Liberal Democrat. so if you are a liberal yourself or approve of their ideology and policies, and you dont mind throwing an inexperienced politician in the middle of several wars, then i say you should vote for him. Otherwise, i dont think you need people to tell you why you shouldnt, since you've probably already thought of 50 reasons on your own.
McCain is one of the very very few politicians I respect, he does things he believes in, as opposed to what his party says to do, hell he has worked with senator Ted kennedy on a bill, and Rush Limbaugh hates him, why, because he is willing to listen to other ideas and be realistic, he is a good man
The only time you'll have a reason not to vote for him is after he becomes president (if that actually happens). Why? Because that's when you'll know what he's actually doing and what he's already done instead of knowing what you think he's gonna do.
I won't be voting for him because I agree with almost none of his policies. I don't believe in abortion, I don't believe in socialized health care, I don't believe in affirmative action, I don't believe that withdrawing from Iraq in its current state would be wise (though I do agree that we need to get out eventually), I don't agree with his stance on video games, I want to keep my guns, I don't believe in any benefits whatsoever for illegal immigrants, I don't think that we should be bailing people out of their mortgage issues, and I don't think that higher taxes and more bureaucracy will solve any of our current issues. I also question his judgment and his character.
[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]socialized health care.Eddie-Vedder
Is that a joke? =| Ever watch sicko? I'm not american btw.
Don't ever cite Moore movies in any sort of argument... He's notorious for misrepresenting the views of the people he interviews and using less than credible sources.
[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]socialized health care.Eddie-Vedder
Is that a joke? =| Ever watch sicko? I'm not american btw.
Of course your not American you would realize we have the best health care in the world. I have had two of my friends fathers come here from Canada for treatment and one client fly in from Japan for his treatment. The first canadian would have died from his skin cancer before he could get treatment. and my client had prostate cancer.
is it perfect no but a whole heck of alot better than the socialize stuff other countries have.
His Pastor, his "present" votes, his junior position in the senate, his lack of experience, his naive views on foreign relations, his plan to punish businesses severely for being efficient to satisfy the global warming yuppies.
Go ahead and throw in a president with little to no experience between two wars taking place in the middle east, a region that hates us enough to want everybody in our country dead. :|. Go on lets us see what happens when he acts on the the whims of the public, I'm sure President Kennedy should have done the same during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
McCain is one of the very very few politicians I respect, he does things he believes in, as opposed to what his party says to do, hell he has worked with senator Ted kennedy on a bill, and Rush Limbaugh hates him, why, because he is willing to listen to other ideas and be realistic, he is a good mancrispytheone88
This guy is erratic and just plain dysfunctional- I inadvertently found myself in a position at work one day when he was doing a publicity tour- I talked to him for a couple of minutes and it was like all his replies to my commentary were disjointed and irrelevant- it was like he was citing from a "politicians handbook" the entire time. I may as well not have been there, except for his cameras and PR team. I always vote Democrat anyway, and I was a little bit peeved that my employers put me in this position in the first place. Damn capitalism!
I prerequisite that because there is no way I would stay in a church for 20 years if the teaching/message of my pastor did not line up with my own views or that of God's. So there are two possible reasons why Obama stayed there and was married by Mr. Wright, and had the man baptize his kids. One he believed in what the "pastor" was preaching and he's lying about his views now. Or two, he didn't know better. I think he new better. He is trying to blow smoke up our butts.
I went to a church for 8 years and I left eventually because they changed the worship. He is hiding who he really is. And that is scarey and dangerous.
[QUOTE="-Makaveli-"]socialized health care.fillini
Is that a joke? =| Ever watch sicko? I'm not american btw.
Of course your not American you would realize we have the best health care in the world. I have had two of my friends fathers come here from Canada for treatment and one client fly in from Japan for his treatment. The first canadian would have died from his skin cancer before he could get treatment. and my client had prostate cancer.
is it perfect no but a whole heck of alot better than the socialize stuff other countries have.
No you don't. France does. You have 37th or something.
Obama denounced Don Imus for the things he said last year. He wouldn't want Imus working for him or any other place. Then his own mentor/spiritual leader goes off saying racist remarks (yes, they are racists--which is another topic since he's allowed to make racist comments without repercussion) and Obama DOES NOT denounce him. How could he expect me to trust him to make things FAIR for everyone when he can't even do that in his own life?
No you don't. France does. You have 37th or something.swizz-the-gamer
No, the US has the best. It's how it's distributed is why it gets a lower rank - as if that had anything to do with actual healthcare and not healthcare distribution.
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"] No you don't. France does. You have 37th or something.The_Ish
No, the US has the best. It's how it's distributed is why it gets a lower rank - as if that had anything to do with actual healthcare and not healthcare distribution.
Please show me any evidence that the equipment and doctors are better than in France.
If you had actually read what it's based on you wouldrealizethat is not the only thing it's based on.
Please show me any evidence that the equipment and doctors are better than in France.
If you had actually read what it's based on you wouldrealizethat is not the only thing it's based on.
swizz-the-gamer
The US has the best survivability rates out of any other country. We've had this same debate, and I've already given you links proving my point. And the rating system may not be based only on distribution, but it's a large factor for it.
Besides, I've never seen you prove how other countries have better healthcare. Ever. Your argument is usually reduced to "it free and socialized". Thats distribution, not actual healthcare.
Please show me any evidence that the equipment and doctors are better than in France.
If you had actually read what it's based on you wouldrealizethat is not the only thing it's based on.
The_Ish
The US has the best survivability rates out of any other country. We've had this same debate, and I've already given you links proving my point. And the rating system may not be based only on distribution, but it's a large factor for it.
Besides, I've never seen you prove how other countries have better healthcare. Ever. Your argument is usually reduced to "it free and socialized". Thats distribution, not actual healthcare.
No Ibelievethe last discussion ended with something like 'there is nodifferencebetween English doctors and American doctors but ours is better because I say so'.
Oh and your sources, a link to a blog called 'live in America dine inBritain'
With hordes of Hillary supporters polling at less then 30% in terms of if they would support Obama if he was the Candidate, and the tough spot the Democrats are in dealing with Florida and Michigan which are swing states, I see it mattering less and less.
This election should have been a walk for the Dems
under his plan you can choose not to pay and not join if you don't want to. it's Hillary's plan that forces everyone to pay even if they don't want to.
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