God - A creation of human insecurity?

Atheism - A creation of human idiocracy?

CHOASXIII

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] G-d doesn't need to be proven. :| Those that believe will believe, and those that don't believe will not; it seems like a fine system to me just the way it is.Teenaged

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[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="PhysicsLCP"]

What material is god supposed to be made of then? If he created the universe (hence the first atom), where did he come from? That's one more extreme level of indirection that would require proof even AFTER the big bang theory were to be proven (if it ever does).

Teenaged

people created the idea of God for people who need something to believe in... like the band Poison.

they needed something to believe in.

it's not a bad concept.

it helps many people.

a lot of people NEED faith every day of their lives.

it's impossible to know everything.

leave that to the big electron.

"whoa... whoa... whoa..."

no_more_fayth

I argue that religion has been a very deadly "creation" as well.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="PhysicsLCP"]

What material is god supposed to be made of then? If he created the universe (hence the first atom), where did he come from? That's one more extreme level of indirection that would require proof even AFTER the big bang theory were to be proven (if it ever does).

Teenaged

It's a form of respect. many religions frown on saying god's name outside of praising him/her.

[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

people created the idea of God for people who need something to believe in... like the band Poison.

they needed something to believe in.

it's not a bad concept.

it helps many people.

a lot of people NEED faith every day of their lives.

it's impossible to know everything.

leave that to the big electron.

"whoa... whoa... whoa..."

voluptuoushrewd

I argue that religion has been a very deadly "creation" as well.

well of course, i totally agree.

people kill in the name of god over anything else.

i just didn't want to offend anybody.

so i said my opinion.

but kept it subtle.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] G-d doesn't need to be proven. :| Those that believe will believe, and those that don't believe will not; it seems like a fine system to me just the way it is.PhysicsLCP

It's a form of respect. many religions frown on saying god's name outside of praising him/her.

[QUOTE="PhysicsLCP"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Irrelevant question: why do you censor the word "God"?

jalexbrown

It's a form of respect. many religions frown on saying god's name outside of praising him/her.

That's why I said "some". Jewish religion isn't the only one out there! :).

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="PhysicsLCP"]

It's a form of respect. many religions frown on saying god's name outside of praising him/her.

PhysicsLCP

That's why I said "some". Jewish religion isn't the only one out there! :).

God was created so pseudo-intellectuals could discuss his existence in a video game off-topic forum.DMAngara90

So this includes me and you? :) gee. thanks :)

[QUOTE="DMAngara90"]God was created so pseudo-intellectuals could discuss his existence in a video game off-topic forum.PhysicsLCP

So this includes me and you? :) gee. thanks :)

I find God to be an absolute joke. I was once a believer but I don't see the point anymore, he's just the worlds best placebo.

i would love to believe that theres a man in the sky that made everything and lets us go to heaven when we die, but i just cqant believe that, if i were born a couple of hundred years ago before science could explain things such as the sun etc then maybe i would believe that there has to be some force out there that brings me light and warmth everyday. but in a modern world in which we are so scientifically advanced, religion is invalid, definately a creation of human insecurity. unless anyone in this forum can prove me wrong, no, anyone on this planet actually!

unless anyone in this forum can prove me wrong, no, anyone on this planet actually!

sense_b12

I dunno why but I immediately chuckled about this. What crossed my mind is that people are still rabidly arguing about which system is "teh bestesst" and the SPECS ARE RIGHT THERE!. lol. So, yeah, look elsewhere for your proof :).

I believe god was created to control the masses. I don't see how people worship the christian god he is quite evil and they say god design is perfect like all the horrible diseases "he" must have created.

I believe god was created to control the masses. I don't see how people worship the christian god he is quite evil and they say god design is perfect like all the horrible diseases "he" must have created.

Communist_Soul

So was communism, but you seem to like that.

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

I believe god was created to control the masses. I don't see how people worship the christian god he is quite evil and they say god design is perfect like all the horrible diseases "he" must have created.

Espada12

So was communism, but you seem to like that.

what does communism have to do with ANYTHING he said?

oh wait, his name.

haha.

well whatever.

communism is better if i had to pick.

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

I believe god was created to control the masses. I don't see how people worship the christian god he is quite evil and they say god design is perfect like all the horrible diseases "he" must have created.

Espada12

So was communism, but you seem to like that.

I'm no longer communist but I do support it and will defend it. Also people corrupted communism to achieve their capitalist dreams.

Sure, why not.BiancaDK

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]Sure, why not.Vandalvideo

As stated above some people unfortunately, but the main reason IBelieve and worship God is because I love him so much for all the things he has given me.

More than likely, yes.......

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Communist_Soul"]

I believe god was created to control the masses. I don't see how people worship the christian god he is quite evil and they say god design is perfect like all the horrible diseases "he" must have created.

Communist_Soul

So was communism, but you seem to like that.

I'm no longer communist but I do support it and will defend it. Also people corrupted communism to achieve their capitalist dreams.

Same with religion, take islam for example.. why do the modern holy text mention bombs and tanks? lol

better yet. Humans, a creation of God's loneliness.

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

LiftedHeadshot

I would assume that yes, religion is civilization's way of telling itself that there is something greater in the Universe, regardless of how little we may truly understand it. And why does the nothingness of no afterlife always get described as an endless void. It in fact wouldn't be a void nor would there be any experience, so in all honesty its not that scary of a thought.

That's one of the reasons. Religion was created by humans to fill a void of unanswered questions. Life after death is one of those questions.

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

LiftedHeadshot

Neither are reasons why I decided to become religious.

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

LiftedHeadshot

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

Hexagon_777

Religion is a lie

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

MystikFollower

I would assume that yes, religion is civilization's way of telling itself that there is something greater in the Universe, regardless of how little we may truly understand it. And why does the nothingness of no afterlife always get described as an endless void. It in fact wouldn't be a void nor would there be any experience, so in all honesty its not that scary of a thought.

For some, maybe, but there are people that believe in God but not an afterlife.cd_rom

Religion is a lie

N7v1K0

Religion ≠ Cake

[QUOTE="N7v1K0"]

Religion is a lie

Hexagon_777

Religion ≠ Cake

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

jalexbrown

Well, it's not so much that our world is in dire need of more organized religions or churches, but our world is in dire need of spiritual evolution. It's taken us thousands of years to really start realizing how vast everything is and how complicated everything is, and our ideas about God and Life haven't been allowed to evolve or grow as NEARLY as much as other aspects of human society.

We've made huge leaps in technology, healthcare, government, ect. But the one facet that hasn't been allowed growth, due to the very set up of many doctrines, is religion and it has greatly hindered mankind from making true conscious evolution. With all our advancement, we turned God's very creation into weapons of unimaginable destruction. It's sad and scary to live in today's society, cause we a are a species that is spiritually dying thanks to our old ideas about God, and we have not managed to achieve advanced thinking to go with our advanced technology. This WILL spell our destruction eventually. Advanced technology without advanced thinking can only breed self destruction in the end.

Our world is coming to a crossroad where one of two things will end up happening. Either enough people will awaken and evolve their consciousness, shifting the collective consciousness of the world into one of peace and harmony (as it was mean't to be through nature), or we'll spread and spread, consume and consume, and fight until we've completely ravaged the planet and destroyed most life on it through nuclear warfare.

Atheism - A creation of human idiocracy?

CHOASXIII

[QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

[QUOTE="LiftedHeadshot"]

Is religion just a way of humans telling themselves that there is life after death? Do they only practice because they fear the endless void that could be death?

LiftedHeadshot

I would assume that yes, religion is civilization's way of telling itself that there is something greater in the Universe, regardless of how little we may truly understand it. And why does the nothingness of no afterlife always get described as an endless void. It in fact wouldn't be a void nor would there be any experience, so in all honesty its not that scary of a thought.

Every mind fears that. But I know what it is when those fears arise in me. The unconscious thoughts and fears of the Egoic mind, not the conscious awareness behind that thought and fear. The mind fears death because it knows all things are impermanent, including the Ego (the false self created through identification with the mind's thought and the external world) and itself. So the mind is constantly is afraid of destruction, and seeks fulfillment and happiness through identifying with external sources. This is why so many people try to fulfill their lives by accumulating as many "things" as possible throughout their life. Many peoples entire sense of worth unfortunately is often derived from their unconscious Ego's need for fulfillment and identification.

So to answer your question, yes at times I do fear being erased from existence, but since I believe that wont happen and I realize what causes that fear in me, it never lasts for very long.

[QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

Atheism - A creation of human idiocracy?

tocool340

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]It isn't just that. Religion was also a useful means of explaining phenomenons that otherwise couldn't be explained in the past. As knowledge and technology improved, less people felt the need for religion.

MystikFollower

Well, it's not so much that our world is in dire need of more organized religions or churches, but our world is in dire need of spiritual evolution. It's taken us thousands of years to really start realizing how vast everything is and how complicated everything is, and our ideas about God and Life haven't been allowed to evolve or grow as NEARLY as much as other aspects of human society.

We've made huge leaps in technology, healthcare, government, ect. But the one facet that hasn't been allowed growth, due to the very set up of many doctrines, has greatly hindered mankind from making true conscious evolution. With all our advancement, we turned God's very creation into weapons of unimaginable destruction. It's sad and scary to live in today's society, cause we a are a species that is spiritually dying thanks to our old ideas about God, and we have not managed to achieve advanced thinking to go with our advanced technology. This WILL spell our destruction eventually. Advanced technology without advanced thinking can only breed self destruction in the end.

Our world is coming to a crossroad where one of two things will end up happening. Either enough people will awaken and evolve their consciousness, shifting the collective consciousness of the world into one of peace and harmony (as it was mean't to be through nature), or we'll spread and spread, consume and consume, and fight until we've completely ravaged the planet and destroyed most life on it through nuclear warfare.

I disagree. Believing in God requires faith rather than visual or physical proof. Just because we cannot see God, doesn't mean that he is imaginary.

Wolf-Man2006

A God that will give you reward of eternal life after death if you hold faith... Guess it never crossed peoples minds that go doesn't care about us or doesn't even realize we exist.. We put entirely too much stock in some how being important.. When in the grand scheme of things, we are not.. We are less then insigificant.. There is no correct term in any language to properly explain how insiginificant and small we are.. Yet we some how think we are important enough for god to take notice..

We don't take notice or really care of a ant hill right outside our home.. Yet we expect god to take notice us when we are far smaller then that.

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

I disagree. Believing in God requires faith rather than visual or physical proof. Just because we cannot see God, doesn't mean that he is imaginary.

sSubZerOo

A God that will give you reward of eternal life after death if you hold faith... Guess it never crossed peoples minds that go doesn't care about us or doesn't even realize we exist.. We put entirely too much stock in some how being important.. When in the grand scheme of things, we are not.. We are less then insigificant.. There is no correct term in any language to properly explain how insiginificant and small we are.. Yet we some how think we are important enough for god to take notice..

We don't take notice or really care of a ant hill right outside our home.. Yet we expect god to take notice us when we are far smaller then that.

I disagree. Believing in God or pixies requires faith rather than visual or physical proof. Just because we cannot see God or the pixies , doesn't mean that he/a pixie is imaginary.

Wolf-Man2006

How about that?

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Wolf-Man2006"]

I disagree. Believing in God requires faith rather than visual or physical proof. Just because we cannot see God, doesn't mean that he is imaginary.

jalexbrown

A God that will give you reward of eternal life after death if you hold faith... Guess it never crossed peoples minds that go doesn't care about us or doesn't even realize we exist.. We put entirely too much stock in some how being important.. When in the grand scheme of things, we are not.. We are less then insigificant.. There is no correct term in any language to properly explain how insiginificant and small we are.. Yet we some how think we are important enough for god to take notice..

We don't take notice or really care of a ant hill right outside our home.. Yet we expect god to take notice us when we are far smaller then that.

We notice ants ont he ground, but do we care about them? No.. And we are far smaller then that.. It seems to be profane arrogance to even suggest god cares about us in the least, we can't even master the planet we live on.. Let alone our solar system.. Which is a drop of water in a vaste lake.