GOP: Too Old, Too White, and Too Male?

I just read an article on Politico explaining some of the demographic problems of the Republican Party

Does the GOP have a demographic problem?

Does the GOP need to expand its base to stay relevant in the future?

What are some ideological changes you expect to see them make?

I expect them to become more moderate in the next few years, and to start moving away from the far right ideologies such as the tea party. I also think they will be trying much harder to appeal to minority groups, such as Hispanics, in the future. The GOP that we all know and love is slowly going away

but males are stronger than females thus their vote counts more than the women.

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Wasdie

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Wasdie

The Force is strong with this one.

After watching Romney's concession speech last night, eloquent, positive and effective I couldn't help but think: Where the hell was this guy during the primaries? Oh, that's right, the GOP base would never have gotten that Romney through to the Presidential election.

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Wasdie

Interesting, my reasoning was that not winning this election would be a message to the GOP that the radical policies aren't working, hopefully they don't become more extreme like you think. But I do think that if they do become farther right, that they will only be killing off their own party in the long run. I feel that they can't ignore a changing America forever, and in the interest of survival they will hopefully move more towards the center

Definitely don't need any more Rick Santorums

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Bane_09

Interesting, my reasoning was that not winning this election would be a message to the GOP that the radical policies aren't working, hopefully they don't become more extreme like you think. But I do think that if they do become farther right, that they will only be killing off their own party in the long run. I feel that they can't ignore a changing America forever, and in the interest of survival they will hopefully move more towards the center

Definitely don't need any more Rick Santorums

I honestly think what it comes down to is that people these days expect government to provide for them....they depend on it so much that any threat to take programs away is a threat to their livelihood....at some point the promise of new stuff will give way to the actuality that we as country will have to pay for it....Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Bane_09

Interesting, my reasoning was that not winning this election would be a message to the GOP that the radical policies aren't working, hopefully they don't become more extreme like you think. But I do think that if they do become farther right, that they will only be killing off their own party in the long run. I feel that they can't ignore a changing America forever, and in the interest of survival they will hopefully move more towards the center

Definitely don't need any more Rick Santorums

We shall see what happens. Just remember, it was AFTER Obama won his first election that the GOP went into full-on nutso mode....

As I posted in another thread I feel that the party itself is killing it's own nominees. They force the candidates to pander to the extremists in order to get party support, but at the same time the candidates have to also appeal to a much more moderate demographic in order to reel in independant voters. Both demographics are just so different that one can't appeal to both without constantly flip-flopping.

With the dem field there is much less extremism needed to get the support of the base, so the party can continue to easily appeal to both the dems and independants without much trouble.

I really hope the Republican party can become a sane, conservative party again. I would like to actually feel like I really need to make a decision when voting...

I honestly think what it comes down to is that people these days expect government to provide for them....they depend on it so much that any threat to take programs away is a threat to their livelihood....at some point the promise of new stuff will give way to the actuality that we as country will have to pay for it....Omni-Slash

The message of fiscal conservatism can work if it wasn't always latched onto extreme social conserveatives. DaBrainz

The problem is the base is too far right. Candidates in the primary have to pander to the base so a moderate candidate will likely never get the nomination. I'm a real big fan of fiscal conservatism, but everyone wants to focus on far right social issues these days.

how do account for the people that are not dependent upon on the government for their livelihood still voting democrat then?comp_atkins

I, for one, hope that conservatives continue to live in a state of denial for the reasons for this loss and don't do any real internal soul searching and reevaluation. So far, that's exactly what I'm seeing. Blaming of affirmative action, the liberal media, etc. for the loss when instead they should be chastised that the country just reelected a president who is sitting on 7.9% national unemployment because they decided that Republicans don't present a viable alternative vision for the future of the country.nocoolnamejim

Exactly how does them sitting in deinal and not changing help this nation?

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"]I, for one, hope that conservatives continue to live in a state of denial for the reasons for this loss and don't do any real internal soul searching and reevaluation. So far, that's exactly what I'm seeing. Blaming of affirmative action, the liberal media, etc. for the loss when instead they should be chastised that the country just reelected a president who is sitting on 7.9% national unemployment because they decided that Republicans don't present a viable alternative vision for the future of the country.Wasdie

Exactly how does them sitting in deinal and not changing help this nation?

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

They aren't going to get more moderate. If anything they are going to end up divided in the middle. The Tea Parties are going to keep getting more radical as they lose power and lose out on things. They don't care about compromise, it's all or nothing to them.

In the next 4 years the Republican party is going to practically destroy itself because of these radicals. The good, more moderate/right leaning candidates that are far more in-touch with modern social issues are going to continue to be shunned so that the candidates that can appeal to the ridiculous radicals that only care about religion and social conservatism will be the ones getting elected.

Kind of like this campaign. Romney wasn't a radical himself, but he could pander well to the radicals and say what he needed to say to get the nomination. The fact that Rick Santorum even stood a chance was a major red flag early in the campaign.

The only thing we can really pray for is a more moderate group of conservatives with more liberal social policies (more modern ones that actually make sense) breaks away from the Republicans and can somehow take some of the more moderate Democrats with them making a viable 3rd party that can get a presence in the house/senate. I see that happening (which is an extremely long shot in itself) over the Republicans becoming more moderate.

Omni-Slash

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]I honestly think what it comes down to is that people these days expect government to provide for them....they depend on it so much that any threat to take programs away is a threat to their livelihood....at some point the promise of new stuff will give way to the actuality that we as country will have to pay for it....RahXephon101

Well the 47% theory is ridiculous, the fact is there are minroities who feel entitled to affirmative action programs. If you think the argument of people expecting hand outs from the government is dumb then why do we still have affrimative action? (instead of treating everyone equal and hiring people based on credentials and hardwork - if some one is hired for this reason then I could care less about their ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation etc..)

[QUOTE="RahXephon101"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] The 47% theory makes its return. -Sun_Tzu-

Well the 47% theory is ridiculous, the fact is there are minroities who feel entitled to affirmative action programs. If you think the argument of people expecting hand outs from the government is dumb then why do we still have affrimative action? (instead of treating everyone equal and hiring people based on credentials and hardwork - if some one is hired for this reason then I could care less about their ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation etc..)

Until the GOP change their position on immigration and abortion, they will be lacking in the female/latino vote.

Seriously though, the GOP need to cut ties with idiots like Rush Limbaugh, as long as Limbaugh has power of influence over the gop(and we all know he does) they will always struggle.

This election could have been won by republicans but their radical old way thinking on social issues is what makes them lose

The Republican party does have some severe issues like the Tea Party, Extreme Social Conservatism etc. We seriously need to accept things like same sex marriage, rights to our own body etc. You can't stop civil rights movements, its just a matter of time. Nonstop-Madness

Until the GOP change their position on immigration and abortion, they will be lacking in the female/latino vote.

Seriously though, the GOP need to cut ties with idiots like Rush Limbaugh, as long as Limbaugh has power of influence over the gop(and we all know he does) they will always struggle.

This election could have been won by republicans but their radical old way thinking on social issues is what makes them lose

fueled-system

The problem is social issues. GOP needs to embrace more moderate notions or otherwise it will face a slow permeating death continually through the elections. If my party even thinks about trying to nominate another f*cking Santorum, or Bachmann, I will change parties.Stevo_the_gamer

The problem is social issues. GOP needs to embrace more moderate notions or otherwise it will face a slow permeating death continually through the elections. If my party even thinks about trying to nominate another f*cking Santorum, or Bachmann, I will change parties.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]The problem is social issues. GOP needs to embrace more moderate notions or otherwise it will face a slow permeating death continually through the elections. If my party even thinks about trying to nominate another f*cking Santorum, or Bachmann, I will change parties.Allicrombie

Republicans need to be more tolerant and open to black and latino, asian voters. As it was proven in 08 and now in this election Republicans CAN't win an election with just white voters.

Republicans need to be more tolerant and open to black and latino, asian voters. As it was proven in 08 and now in this election Republicans CAN't win an election with just white voters.

djshowstopper87

The problem is social issues. GOP needs to embrace more moderate notions or otherwise it will face a slow permeating death continually through the elections. If my party even thinks about trying to nominate another f*cking Santorum, or Bachmann, I will change parties.Stevo_the_gamer

Amen.

Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio for 2016 make a pretty strong early ticket for getting the Latino vote. (not that I think they'd be able to beat Hillary.)Allicrombie

[QUOTE="djshowstopper87"]

Republicans need to be more tolerant and open to black and latino, asian voters. As it was proven in 08 and now in this election Republicans CAN't win an election with just white voters.

Stevo_the_gamer