Heath ledger found DEAD?!?!

No, you don't. They are either lieing, bisexual, or have been gay all along without knowing. You can't like women, and then decide to like men, unless you lie to yourself a lot.

umm how do you know? i think that willingly having sex with another person of the same sex constitutes being gay

some people have done that for years and then don't want to do it any more. same with strait. it's a choice. there's no gene saying you're gay...

[QUOTE="jimhogg"]people who can't accept that some people don't think homosexual love fail harder. that makes you narrow minded yourself

Manly-manly-man

The hell it does. I accept the fact that some people hate jews, but it is still narrow-minded to think that jews cause all the problems in the world.

maybe because it's in people's beliefs?... the Bible says it's wrong, but it doesn't say to hate them. I'm not narrow-minded. i have a lot of homosexual friends, i pray that they stop choosing that lifestyle but i'm not going to judge them because a sin is a sin is a sin no matter what. i'm just as sinful so yeah there's my two cents.

Oh, it's wrong because the BIBLE says so. That proves you to be narrow minded as well. You have to learn that the bible doesn't apply to everyone. Some people, get this, aren't Christians.

I know.... Christians, true Christians are a minority. don't talk to me like i don't know anything. Followers of the Bible have been persecuted more than any other religion or race in the history of the world. so i'm going by my beliefs ok? you get that? and i don't know what religion you have or if you have any. but logically speaking, being gay is illogical. your blood dies there.

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="jimhogg"]people who can't accept that some people don't think homosexual love fail harder. that makes you narrow minded yourself

jimhogg

The hell it does. I accept the fact that some people hate jews, but it is still narrow-minded to think that jews cause all the problems in the world.

maybe because it's in people's beliefs?... the Bible says it's wrong, but it doesn't say to hate them. I'm not narrow-minded. i have a lot of homosexual friends, i pray that they stop choosing that lifestyle but i'm not going to judge them because a sin is a sin is a sin no matter what. i'm just as sinful so yeah there's my two cents.

Oh, it's wrong because the BIBLE says so. That proves you to be narrow minded as well. You have to learn that the bible doesn't apply to everyone. Some people, get this, aren't Christians.

I know.... Christians, true Christians are a minority. don't talk to me like i don't know anything. Followers of the Bible have been persecuted more than any other religion or race in the history of the world. so i'm going by my beliefs ok? you get that? and i don't know what religion you have or if you have any. but logically speaking, being gay is illogical. your blood dies there.

Being retarded is illogical, cancer is illogical, being 8' tall is illogical, being fat, short, skinny, bald, blind, deaf, all of it is illogical. Being gay is no more illogical then any of this. There is no gene that makes some people like spicy food, you know. Not everything has to be logical. And learn how to quote, btw. If someone is able to go from gay to straight, they are bisexual, not gay If you are gay you get no arousal from women and vice versa.

[QUOTE="jimhogg"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="jimhogg"]people who can't accept that some people don't think homosexual love fail harder. that makes you narrow minded yourself

Manly-manly-man

The hell it does. I accept the fact that some people hate jews, but it is still narrow-minded to think that jews cause all the problems in the world.

maybe because it's in people's beliefs?... the Bible says it's wrong, but it doesn't say to hate them. I'm not narrow-minded. i have a lot of homosexual friends, i pray that they stop choosing that lifestyle but i'm not going to judge them because a sin is a sin is a sin no matter what. i'm just as sinful so yeah there's my two cents.

Oh, it's wrong because the BIBLE says so. That proves you to be narrow minded as well. You have to learn that the bible doesn't apply to everyone. Some people, get this, aren't Christians.

I know.... Christians, true Christians are a minority. don't talk to me like i don't know anything. Followers of the Bible have been persecuted more than any other religion or race in the history of the world. so i'm going by my beliefs ok? you get that? and i don't know what religion you have or if you have any. but logically speaking, being gay is illogical. your blood dies there.

Being retarded is illogical, cancer is illogical, being 8' tall is illogical, being fat, short, skinny, bald, blind, deaf, all of it is illogical. Being gay is no more illogical then any of this. There is no gene that makes some people like spicy food, you know. Not everything has to be logical. And learn how to quote, btw. If someone is able to go from gay to straight, they are bisexual, not gay If you are gay you get no arousal from women and vice versa.

retarted, cancer, short, bald, blind and deaf aren't choices. and being 8' tall isn't illogical. people get taller all the time. back in the early 1900's the avg height for a male was 5'2. now it's 5'9. that's not illogical. and yes there are genes that make people like certain kind of foods. hereditary. ohh and btw why i quoted like this is because if you have more than 5 quotes it's considered flaming. being fat, skinny, or gay is a choice... some people are born bigger than other people but that's nothing a little diet and exercise can't fix. i was skinny for the longest time but now i started working out and i'm right around average. I have friends who were strait and then made a CHOICE to be gay visa versa...

[QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="jimhogg"][QUOTE="Manly-manly-man"][QUOTE="jimhogg"]people who can't accept that some people don't think homosexual love fail harder. that makes you narrow minded yourself

jimhogg

The hell it does. I accept the fact that some people hate jews, but it is still narrow-minded to think that jews cause all the problems in the world.

maybe because it's in people's beliefs?... the Bible says it's wrong, but it doesn't say to hate them. I'm not narrow-minded. i have a lot of homosexual friends, i pray that they stop choosing that lifestyle but i'm not going to judge them because a sin is a sin is a sin no matter what. i'm just as sinful so yeah there's my two cents.

Oh, it's wrong because the BIBLE says so. That proves you to be narrow minded as well. You have to learn that the bible doesn't apply to everyone. Some people, get this, aren't Christians.

I know.... Christians, true Christians are a minority. don't talk to me like i don't know anything. Followers of the Bible have been persecuted more than any other religion or race in the history of the world. so i'm going by my beliefs ok? you get that? and i don't know what religion you have or if you have any. but logically speaking, being gay is illogical. your blood dies there.

Being retarded is illogical, cancer is illogical, being 8' tall is illogical, being fat, short, skinny, bald, blind, deaf, all of it is illogical. Being gay is no more illogical then any of this. There is no gene that makes some people like spicy food, you know. Not everything has to be logical. And learn how to quote, btw. If someone is able to go from gay to straight, they are bisexual, not gay If you are gay you get no arousal from women and vice versa.

retarted, cancer, short, bald, blind and deaf aren't choices. and being 8' tall isn't illogical. people get taller all the time. back in the early 1900's the avg height for a male was 5'2. now it's 5'9. that's not illogical. and yes there are genes that make people like certain kind of foods. hereditary. ohh and btw why i quoted like this is because if you have more than 5 quotes it's considered flaming. being fat, skinny, or gay is a choice... some people are born bigger than other people but that's nothing a little diet and exercise can't fix. i was skinny for the longest time but now i started working out and i'm right around average. I have friends who were strait and then made a CHOICE to be gay visa versa...

Actually, being skinny, fat, short and tall are all hereditary, at least to some extent. I didn't say being tall was illogical, I said being 8' tall is illogical, and it is. Try traveling when you're 8' tall. Harder then you might think. And I said, if you CHOOSE to be gay after being straight, you still like women and thus are BISEXUAL. If you were gay and then went straight, you still like men and thus are BISEXUAL. Being gay means women don't attract you AT ALL, and thus you can't just decide to start being aroused by them, and vice versa.

[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="maccer101"]

homophobe much?

Anamosa41

I'm not adfraid of gay people or anything, i just feel that having gay people in a movie so people will watch it simply because opf its contreversy surrounding it isn't that cool. And quite frankly how would i relate to the characters if they're gay and I'm not.

If it was liked ONLY because of its stance on homosexuality, then why isn't Ellen DeGeneres' talk show touted as the best thing on TV by Satanic anti-family liberals? Because that show sucks.

In the real world Brokeback Mountain didn't win 79 awards "simply" because it had gay characters, but because it was a masterfully realised film in every respect, which you would have been able to appreciate with the rest of us had you been less touchy over the depiction of non-straight life****.

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="maccer101"]

homophobe much?

Banestyrelsen

I'm not adfraid of gay people or anything, i just feel that having gay people in a movie so people will watch it simply because opf its contreversy surrounding it isn't that cool. And quite frankly how would i relate to the characters if they're gay and I'm not.

If it was liked ONLY because of its stance on homosexuality, then why isn't Ellen DeGeneres' talk show touted as the best thing on TV by Satanic anti-family liberals? Because that show sucks.

In the real world Brokeback Mountain didn't win 79 awards "simply" because it had gay characters, but because it was a masterfully realised film in every respect, which you would have been able to appreciate with the rest of us had you been less touchy over the depiction of non-straight life****.

it was a good movie. they cheated on their wives though, i really don't like it when they do that in movies... takes away the sanctity of marriage.

[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="maccer101"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"]

[QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"]never heard of this guy till now. But seriosuly which guy watches brokeback mountain?Anamosa41

Me? Good movie.

me, being a guy, dont feel comfortable watching a movie about gay guys, thank you.

homophobe much?

I'm not adfraid of gay people or anything, i just feel that having gay people in a movie so people will watch it simply because opf its contreversy surrounding it isn't that cool. And quite frankly how would i relate to the characters if they're gay and I'm not.

yeah all these guys stickin up for gay guys, i dont get it. Then one guy said "everyones not a christian" well duh everyone's not but i am and thats why i beleive what i believe.

[QUOTE="Anamosa41"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"][QUOTE="maccer101"]

homophobe much?

Banestyrelsen

I'm not adfraid of gay people or anything, i just feel that having gay people in a movie so people will watch it simply because opf its contreversy surrounding it isn't that cool. And quite frankly how would i relate to the characters if they're gay and I'm not.

If it was liked ONLY because of its stance on homosexuality, then why isn't Ellen DeGeneres' talk show touted as the best thing on TV by Satanic anti-family liberals? Because that show sucks.

In the real world Brokeback Mountain didn't win 79 awards "simply" because it had gay characters, but because it was a masterfully realised film in every respect, which you would have been able to appreciate with the rest of us had you been less touchy over the depiction of non-straight life****.

people didnt just watch it for the contreversy, but you gotta admit it got it noticed more than alot of other movies by having gay realationships in it.

how do you know? are you gay have you ever done that? i know those are hereditary i just put them in my last quote if you would read it. i'm just saying some people just choose they don't like women or men any more. it's a friggin choice... jimhogg

You can't discount my thoughts because I've never been gay because neither have you. And once again: It's not a choice. Are you missing my point? If you even have the CAPABILITY of being aroused by a man, you ARE NOT STRAIGHT. A truly straight/gay person can not just choose to be aroused by something that isn't arousing any more then you can choose to be aroused by a parapalegic.