Here is Proof that God Exists

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Hmm, let's see: the Old Testament is also referred to as the Torah. The Torah is the holy document of the Jewish people. Therefore, Jews wrote the Bible (oddly offensive sounding, not trying to go that way). And Christianity, to an extent, is essentially a sect of Judaism that accepts Jesus as their savior (other practices witheld).

Sooshy

Obviously, logic won't touch you. The Bible was written by humans for several reasons, like moral guidance, satiation of the human ego, explaining the unknown (obsolete with scientific discoveries within the past 500 years), and many other reasons I could list.

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Video_Game_King

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Are they ever going to make the whole Bible into a movie? I think it's time religion modernized in that sense rather than just making their churches look like penthouses.Sooshy

So I guess this is 100% fictitious.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Sooshy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Here you go, proof of the lack of gods existence. But you all knew that, right?

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

Hmm, let's see: the Old Testament is also referred to as the Torah. The Torah is the holy document of the Jewish people. Therefore, Jews wrote the Bible (oddly offensive sounding, not trying to go that way). And Christianity, to an extent, is essentially a sect of Judaism that accepts Jesus as their savior (other practices witheld).

SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Are they ever going to make the whole Bible into a movie? I think it's time religion modernized in that sense rather than just making their churches look like penthouses.Sooshy

So I guess this is 100% fictitious.

Wait, I think he just self owned himself. He just totally destroyed his point!

Egyptions have a lot of crap written down in their heiroglyphics, maybe I should believe their pantheon?

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Sooshy

Where did God come from?

/lolsnapple.

Im sorry, I do believe George Carlin proved there is no god. Ill find the video clip for you.lobodob

If a comedian ever disproves the existence of God I will eat my entire Bible and post a video of it on Youtube.

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]Interestingly enough, it also proves the world is flat.

*facepalm*

You are looking at it really wrong. The earth doesn't literally have corners, its referring to the cultural centers of humanity. ie, The English Empire had a stretched to the four corners of the earth.

Its not literally shaking the world foundations, that's just a figure of speech. For example, " The offensive use of nuclear weapons shook the foundations of the world." Its not literally shaking the world, its a major event or disaster.

Guiltfeeder566

Or maybe those passages are reflecting a commonly held belief that the earth was flat. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the authors of those passages literally thought the earth was flat considering it was the norm at the time..

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Sooshy

You are clutching to the fact that there is some grand plan for our existance, we were created by the right conditions being present at a certain time, nothing more than that. Don't try to make yourself feel more important by saying that you had a creator, we are purely bundles of atoms.

Biased link wars FTL :(

if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.Sooshy

This thread, like most religious threads, fails. You cannot prove or disprove a religion. A religion is based on faith, and faith is something that you cannot prove. End of discussion.el_carl

SolidSnake, you're obviously set in your ways so I don't even know why you're posting against me....unless you're insecure about your beliefs.Sooshy

SolidSnake, you're obviously set in your ways so I don't even know why you're posting against me....unless you're insecure about your beliefs.Sooshy

Why are you posting here then?

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Sooshy

That's not logic, its an assumption.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.SolidSnake35

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

kruesader

You are clutching to the fact that there is some grand plan for our existance, we were created by the right conditions being present at a certain time, nothing more than that. Don't try to make yourself feel more important by saying that you had a creator, we are purely bundles of atoms.

Another reason why humans wrote the Bible: to convince themselves that they have meaning. We've no meaning. We're just random atoms and electrochemical reactions going about our lives. Nothing more, nothing less.

[QUOTE="kruesader"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]

The the dude comparing games to the bible: You're comparing something that has been around for a few decades to something--the bible--that has been around for a million years. Fail.

Where does it prove that the world is flat? How do you know it just isn't interpeted wrong? It wasn't written in English, you know.

Sooshy

Oh, so the bible is a million years old now?

But that isn't even that old...:?

Anyway, I don't see why you guys are keep feeding this troll...it's obvious what he's trying to do, and you're all falling for it.

It's a good book, but its no harry potter. 6/10 if I'm feeling generous.Mr_sprinkles

if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.
Sooshy

what do you think Islam is? ;)

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.SolidSnake35

Infact, Islam recently became the most populous religion.

[QUOTE="el_carl"]This thread, like most religious threads, fails. You cannot prove or disprove a religion. A religion is based on faith, and faith is something that you cannot prove. End of discussion.Sooshy

You are someone with a blind faith in an old book, I can't see any credibility.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.Sooshy

By that logic, racial equality would not have come into fruition. And weren't Christians once the minority? Remember that time in history when they were being killed by Romans? Remember that? Hell, its in that book you're trying to sell to us.

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.Sooshy

SolidSnake, you're obviously set in your ways so I don't even know why you're posting against me....unless you're insecure about your beliefs.Sooshy

What's the point of making this thread unless you yourself are insecure? You shove your idiotic "logic" down our throats and lash out when we counter it. Sounds like a pretty insecure person to me.

yes, all books are always 100% truthful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o

Here you go, proof of the lack of gods existence. But you all knew that, right?

lobodob

i lost respect for him after he said "religion is BS" atleast 10 times.... i mean i firmly believe in respecting others opinions but why attacks others for their beliefs...what has religion done to him? i can also easily debate with him and also pwn and BUt he will pwn me back and it will go baCK AND FORTH 100 TIMES...THAT is the point of religion to me...to have faith and you say why be a slave of a magical being that does not exist? well i am not a slave..i just follow someone who hasnt told me to work hard or do anything bad..he/it/she has told me to follow good morals and help pthers and care for my friends and etc....

[QUOTE="kruesader"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Video_Game_King

You are clutching to the fact that there is some grand plan for our existance, we were created by the right conditions being present at a certain time, nothing more than that. Don't try to make yourself feel more important by saying that you had a creator, we are purely bundles of atoms.

Another reason why humans wrote the Bible: to convince themselves that they have meaning. We've no meaning. We're just random atoms and electrochemical reactions going about our lives. Nothing more, nothing less.

[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]Interestingly enough, it also proves the world is flat.

*facepalm*

You are looking at it really wrong. The earth doesn't literally have corners, its referring to the cultural centers of humanity. ie, The English Empire had a stretched to the four corners of the earth.

Its not literally shaking the world foundations, that's just a figure of speech. For example, " The offensive use of nuclear weapons shook the foundations of the world." Its not literally shaking the world, its a major event or disaster.

Frattracide

Or maybe those passages are reflecting a commonly held belief that the earth was flat. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the authors of those passages literally thought the earth was flat considering it was the norm at the time..

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Or maybe those passages are reflecting a commonly held belief that the earth was flat. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the authors of those passages literally thought the earth was flat considering it was the norm at the time..

Frattracide

How many times do you need to be told that people have known for thousands of years how the Earth is shaped?

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.Sooshy

Islam has overtaken Roman Catholicism to become the world's largest single religious denomination, according to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper.timesonline

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yes, all books are always 100% truthful

Gigagamer2

Doesn't make the Bible correct, though, does it? :|SolidSnake35

not at all, it could be a Deistic approach, for instance.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="kruesader"][QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

Sooshy

You are clutching to the fact that there is some grand plan for our existance, we were created by the right conditions being present at a certain time, nothing more than that. Don't try to make yourself feel more important by saying that you had a creator, we are purely bundles of atoms.

Another reason why humans wrote the Bible: to convince themselves that they have meaning. We've no meaning. We're just random atoms and electrochemical reactions going about our lives. Nothing more, nothing less.

You know what explains that?: We were lucky. The smarter monkey-ancestors survived long enough to breed, and passed their knowledge onto their children. Slowly, the monkey-ancestors became smarter, walked upright, and over hundreds of thousands of years, we became humans.

That's it? All you have is a picture of a Bible? And you expect someone who doesn't believe in God to take it and just read to find the answer?

This has to be the weakest 'proof thread' I have ever seen.

That explains why we're the only beings in the world with cognitive though. Wait, nope. It doesn't explain that at all.Sooshy

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Sooshy"]if it's a lie, don't you think God would have corrected it by now? He wouldn't just let us all go on believe the wrong things about him.kruesader

Islam has overtaken Roman Catholicism to become the world's largest single religious denomination, according to L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican newspaper.timesonline

Link

[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"][QUOTE="Frattracide"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="Frattracide"]Interestingly enough, it also proves the world is flat.

*facepalm*

You are looking at it really wrong. The earth doesn't literally have corners, its referring to the cultural centers of humanity. ie, The English Empire had a stretched to the four corners of the earth.

Its not literally shaking the world foundations, that's just a figure of speech. For example, " The offensive use of nuclear weapons shook the foundations of the world." Its not literally shaking the world, its a major event or disaster.

Frattracide

Or maybe those passages are reflecting a commonly held belief that the earth was flat. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the authors of those passages literally thought the earth was flat considering it was the norm at the time..

Then your purposefully mistaking metaphors for fact in a vain search for evidence.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]It's a good book, but its no harry potter. 6/10 if I'm feeling generous.Sooshy

[QUOTE="Frattracide"][

Or maybe those passages are reflecting a commonly held belief that the earth was flat. I'm gonna go ahead and say that the authors of those passages literally thought the earth was flat considering it was the norm at the time..

Dracargen

How many times do you need to be told that people have known for thousands of years how the Earth is shaped?

Yet the church maintained it was flat.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

No, but logic is, and those facts were derived using logic.

kruesader

You are clutching to the fact that there is some grand plan for our existance, we were created by the right conditions being present at a certain time, nothing more than that. Don't try to make yourself feel more important by saying that you had a creator, we are purely bundles of atoms.

Because believing that there is an omnipotent being that sets up rules for you to follow and is always infinitely better than you in every possible way is quite the ego boost.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]That explains why we're the only beings in the world with cognitive though. Wait, nope. It doesn't explain that at all.SolidSnake35

I don't understand why you guys are compaing entertainment (film, games, literature) with the bible. You're comparing things that were made in the past century or so with something that has been around for multiple centuries. There is a reason why The Bible has withstood the test of time.
Sooshy

there's another book of sorts that withstood time.