Moral of the story,
Increase funding to organ growing research.
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Stem Cells are opposed by the church. So good luck with that...[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
Moral of the story,
Increase funding to organ growing research.
dercoo
There is non-embryo stem cell methods for organ growing under research....
There is. But again, Stem Cells are opposed by the church.[QUOTE="dercoo"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Stem Cells are opposed by the church. So good luck with that...Nibroc420
There is non-embryo stem cell methods for organ growing under research....
There is. But again, Stem Cells are opposed by the church.Only embryo is opposed do to its connection to abortions and early human life.
Most others are only opposed as embryo research happens along side it.
[QUOTE="dercoo"]
Moral of the story,
Increase funding to organ growing research.
Slow_Show
Much easier to switch organ donor programs from opt-in to opt-out (and make the opt-out process difficult enough that someone really needs to object to donating to go through with it).
Actually, a very good short term solution.
[QUOTE="dercoo"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] Stem Cells are opposed by the church. So good luck with that...Nibroc420
There is non-embryo stem cell methods for organ growing under research....
There is. But again, Stem Cells are opposed by the church. No only embryonic stem cells are opposed by the church. Adult stem cells are perfectly fine. And now that adult stems cells can be made to behave exactly like embryonic stems cells all research options are available to ways that the Church does support.I think some of you are looking at this from a very one dimensional angle. While I understand the point of the doctor not letting him be a viable option for the heart transplant, if some light to moderate autism is the reason, I dunno if that's really a good move. There are plenty of non-autistic people with much more important "Technical disabilities" that would make them less viable than this autistic person, so I feel that if autism is the only reason he was denied, I'm not too sure if I agree, even with the logic in this situation being used.
Then again I can't even say that I'm even sure if I can agree with the logic with the decision being made here, despite the situation with a lack of donated organs. Pretty difficult decisions to be made with this type of situation though, so I can't say I'm outraged about this either. I suppose feel bad for the guy, though. It's just the way things have to be for him right now though, even if I'm not sure if I can agree with it or not.
[QUOTE="dercoo"]
Moral of the story,
Increase funding to organ growing research.
Slow_Show
Much easier to switch organ donor programs from opt-in to opt-out (and make the opt-out process difficult enough that someone really needs to object to donating to go through with it).
Actually, a very good short term solution.
[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="dercoo"]There is. But again, Stem Cells are opposed by the church. No only embryonic stem cells are opposed by the church. Adult stem cells are perfectly fine. And now that adult stems cells can be made to behave exactly like embryonic stems cells all research options are available to ways that the Church does support.There is non-embryo stem cell methods for organ growing under research....
ferrari2001
Not entirely. Embryonic stem cells are still more useful. Adult stem cells are getting there and maybe they will, but as of now they are not on the level of embryonic stem cells.
Tough decisions like this are often described how you put it.http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/after-adult-autistic-son-denied-heart-transplant-pennsylvania-woman-seeks-to-reverse-decision/2012/08/17/db4778aa-e834-11e1-9739-eef99c5fb285_story.html
A Pennsylvania woman whose autistic adult son was not recommended for a heart transplant is using an online petition to gather support in a bid to convince a hospital to reconsider.
Karen Corby says doctors at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania decided that her 23-year-old son, Paul, would not be recommended for a heart transplant because of psychiatric issues, his autism and the complexity of the process.
Discuss - do you think this is wrong or right? Sounds a bit cold-hearted to me.
topsemag55
No only embryonic stem cells are opposed by the church. Adult stem cells are perfectly fine. And now that adult stems cells can be made to behave exactly like embryonic stems cells all research options are available to ways that the Church does support.[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] There is. But again, Stem Cells are opposed by the church.Omni-Wrath
Not entirely. Embryonic stem cells are still more useful. Adult stem cells are getting there and maybe they will, but as of now they are not on the level of embryonic stem cells.
Except adult stem cells have seen far more viable cures than have embryonic stems cells as of current. It might be because of funding, but to say embryonic stem cells are more useful when they have cured less problems than have adult stem cells seems like a misconception. Embryonic stem cells currently are only used for research, not actual viable cures. And scientists can use a technique to turn adult stem cells into embryonic stem cells. They behave exactly the same way after the procedure. The only difference is they are obtained from adults instead of embryos. Other than that they are identical in both use and behavior. They aren't any less useful than cells taken directly from an embryo.[QUOTE="BurningAegis"]"There are plenty of non-autistic people with much more important "Technical disabilities" that would make them less viable than this autistic person, so I feel that if autism is the only reason he was denied, I'm not too sure if I agree, even with the logic in this situation being used." Autism isn't the only reason he was denied.I think some of you are looking at this from a very one dimensional angle. While I understand the point of the doctor not letting him be a viable option for the heart transplant, if some light to moderate autism is the reason, I dunno if that's really a good move. There are plenty of non-autistic people with much more important "Technical disabilities" that would make them less viable than this autistic person, so I feel that if autism is the only reason he was denied, I'm not too sure if I agree, even with the logic in this situation being used.
Then again I can't even say that I'm even sure if I can agree with the logic with the decision being made here, despite the situation with a lack of donated organs. Pretty difficult decisions to be made with this type of situation though, so I can't say I'm outraged about this either. I suppose feel bad for the guy, though. It's just the way things have to be for him right now though, even if I'm not sure if I can agree with it or not.
thegerg
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