How can you be pro 6@y and anti incest...?..

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#1 mingmao3046
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Both are consensual acts that dont harm outside persons

side note: gs blocks the word gay in the title. are they implying that gay is a derrogatory term? you liberals should get on that

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#2 l4dak47
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I'm not.
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Doing tings every ting lookin at tings and thinkin about tings dabadadobadade
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#4 Philokalia
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You can't if want to remain consistent.

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#5 dodgerblue13
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Politics. Amirite, guys?
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#6 konvikt_17
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i dont really see how there are relatable, except for the fact that it could be consentual.

two different things.

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#7 DavesAlt
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[QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]Politics. Amirite, guys?

Rather sad
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[QUOTE="DavesAlt"][QUOTE="dodgerblue13"]Politics. Amirite, guys?

Rather sad

Don't be sad, Davis.
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#9 BuryMe
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Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

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#10 Laihendi
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Most people want to believe that they are socially progressive. Most people are also oppressive bigots. They support the LGBT movement so they feel worldly, open-minded, and superior to anti-LGBT ignoramuses. They oppose incest because it's just too taboo for them to resist their bigoted authoritarian impulses.
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#11 Ring_of_fire
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Easily: Incest is capable of nasty things in terms of birth defects. Homosexuality isn't.
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#12 mingmao3046
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Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

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genetic disorder with incest is something like 35%. with that logic you could say "Low income/inner city births are criminals waiting to grow up"
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#13 Philokalia
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Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

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Then force them to wear condoms, and that doesn't prohibit Same sex Incest.

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#14 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Different things are judged differently.

I have no problem with incest. I'd never do it, if someone else wants to then whatever.

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#15 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

Philokalia

Then force them to wear condoms, and that doesn't prohibit Same sex Incest.

If the 2 people in an incestuous realtionship are sterile, I'm not against it.

Condoms, although the best form of birthcontrol, aren't 100% effective. They can berak, expire, not be used properly, and lead to pregnancy (hough it is admitedly very rare.)

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#16 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

mingmao3046

genetic disorder with incest is something like 35%. with that logic you could say "Low income/inner city births are criminals waiting to grow up"

35% is very high, and as you increase the number of generations, the rate increases.

Your comparison doesn't work. There are other things we as society can do to reduce crime. The problem is we don't do them.

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#17 metroidfood
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Incest isn't the identity of a broad group of people. Unless you count West Virginia.

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#18 Ringx55
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Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

BuryMe

Did you know it's actually only 100% more likely for a genetic defect? And the normal rate is 3% so their rate would be 6%. Yes that can be a lot but really it's not something to make a big deal about or illegal. Or that may be cosuins correct me if I'm wrong.

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#19 kuraimen
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I'm not anti incest although for many people it would seem pretty weird. I'm against incestual procreation though since it can cause pretty bad mutations to the offspring.
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#20 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

BuryMe

Then force them to wear condoms, and that doesn't prohibit Same sex Incest.

If the 2 people in an incestuous realtionship are sterile, I'm not against it.

Condoms, although the best form of birthcontrol, aren't 100% effective. They can berak, expire, not be used properly, and lead to pregnancy (hough it is admitedly very rare.)

So you support eugenics? Do we really need the government to decide what genetic factors are allowed to contribute to our children? If there is truly a genetic disadvantage to incest, Darwinism will take care of it.
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#21 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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So your argument is that if you can have sex with one thing then you can the other so therefore pro-gay arguments are dumb? So.. by that logic.. if you support straight sex..then you can't argue gay sex.. so your argument is a moot point anyway.
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#22 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

Ringx55

Did you know it's actually only 100% more likely for a genetic defect? And the normal rate is 3% so their rate would be 6%. Yes that can be a lot but really it's not something to make a big deal about or illegal. Or that may be cosuins correct me if I'm wrong.

I get different numbers from diferent people. Go up a few posts and some one else said 35%.

The problem isn't so much the first generation, it's when families decide they need to do it for generations. Although rare, it has happened. As you increase the number of generations, you increase the liklihood of problems.

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#23 Overlord93
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Who is pro-gay and anti-incest then?
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Homosexuality isn't a genetic disaster waiting to happen. Incest is.

mingmao3046

genetic disorder with incest is something like 35%. with that logic you could say "Low income/inner city births are criminals waiting to grow up"

they're not?

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#25 XilePrincess
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Depending how close the incest is, you can make mentally retarded and/or physically disabled offspring. That isn't debatable, it happens in animals all the time and you can see it. It shows in inbred cats a lot, I had one and my boyfriend's family has one, and they're slow and they have oversized ears and small faces and weird feet.

Incest between two consenting adult parties is not anything wrong to me outside of the inbreeding issue. It's only kinda gross to me because I would never do it. But then again, I'd find it kinda gross personally to have sexual relations with another woman, seeing as I'm straight. I don't have any opposition to either, I just will not do them.

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Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control Icky perhaps, but no one who's not an idiot thinks that ickiness is any justification for banning something
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#27 Oscar-Wilde
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I'm ok with both of them, consenting adults are consenting, there's no more to say.

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control Icky perhaps, but no one who's not an idiot thinks that ickiness is any justification for banning something

"Ickiness"? No, it is a very unethical and unnatural thing to do.
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control Icky perhaps, but no one who's not an idiot thinks that ickiness is any justification for banning something

"Ickiness"? No, it is a very unethical and unnatural thing to do.

How is it unethical or unnatural?
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control Icky perhaps, but no one who's not an idiot thinks that ickiness is any justification for banning something

"Ickiness"? No, it is a very unethical and unnatural thing to do.

How is it unethical or unnatural?

Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseases and unethical as it is a disturbing relationship with family members.
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#31 Ace6301
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I'm not. However incest technically does cause more harm than gays. Heavily incestuous children are quite prone to some pretty awful genetic defects whereas with gays the worst thing any study has found was that they get teased a bit more (which is a societal problem and not an inherent issue with the union).
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#32 HoolaHoopMan
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I'm not against either. The only thing I can see is procreating with relatives producing defective offspring.
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#33 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"] "Ickiness"? No, it is a very unethical and unnatural thing to do.

How is it unethical or unnatural?

Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseases and unethical as it is a disturbing relationship with family members.

What is unnatural about offspring or diseases? Both are products of nature. And is something unethical simply because you find it to be disturbing? How so?
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#34 IdioticIcarus
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Comparing gay sex and incest doesn't make sense to me. But anyway.

Incest grosses me out, but beef also grosses me out and I'm not ant-beef.

People that are anti-incest because of increased rates of birth defects, are you also against anyone that carries a gene that increases the likelihood of a child that would be prone to genetic orders from having sex?

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#35 champion837
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]How is it unethical or unnatural?Laihendi
Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseases and unethical as it is a disturbing relationship with family members.

What is unnatural about offspring or diseases? Both are products of nature. And is something unethical simply because you find it to be disturbing? How so?

Ethics are a moral code that we live by. And I think that incest is an immoral thing to do.
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People that are anti-incest because of increased rates of birth defects, are you also against anyone that carries a gene that increases the likelihood of a child that would be prone to genetic orders from having sex?IdioticIcarus

Yes, the foundation itself is flawed and is against the value of family.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"] Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseases and unethical as it is a disturbing relationship with family members.

What is unnatural about offspring or diseases? Both are products of nature. And is something unethical simply because you find it to be disturbing? How so?

Ethics are a moral code that we live by. And I think that incest is an immoral thing to do.

You keep saying it's unethical/immoral, and yet you seem incapable of explaining how it is unethical or immoral. Do you expect people to just take your word for it?
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#38 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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I'm pro gay but I'm pretty indifferent to incest. I don't care.

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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] What is unnatural about offspring or diseases? Both are products of nature. And is something unethical simply because you find it to be disturbing? How so?

Ethics are a moral code that we live by. And I think that incest is an immoral thing to do.

You keep saying it's unethical/immoral, and yet you seem incapable of explaining how it is unethical or immoral. Do you expect people to just take your word for it?

I expect people to realize that screwing a family member is not the way you are supposed to treat them. They are there to help you in life in non sexual relationships, it is a unique relationship to have, not something that is supposed to be anything goes.
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"] Ethics are a moral code that we live by. And I think that incest is an immoral thing to do.

You keep saying it's unethical/immoral, and yet you seem incapable of explaining how it is unethical or immoral. Do you expect people to just take your word for it?

I expect people to realize that screwing a family member is not the way you are supposed to treat them. They are there to help you in life in non sexual relationships, it is a unique relationship to have, not something that is supposed to be anything goes.

And how have you determined that all family members should act in this way? How do you know that it's supposed to be the way you're saying it's supposed to be?
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#41 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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Also, incest gets a bad rap because a lot of the times it's connected to child molestation, exploitation, and a lot of nasty stuff.

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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"]You keep saying it's unethical/immoral, and yet you seem incapable of explaining how it is unethical or immoral. Do you expect people to just take your word for it?Laihendi
I expect people to realize that screwing a family member is not the way you are supposed to treat them. They are there to help you in life in non sexual relationships, it is a unique relationship to have, not something that is supposed to be anything goes.

And how have you determined that all family members should act in this way? How do you know that it's supposed to be the way you're saying it's supposed to be?

It is psychologically abnormal to have sex with someone who is in your family.
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#43 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="champion837"][QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="champion837"] I expect people to realize that screwing a family member is not the way you are supposed to treat them. They are there to help you in life in non sexual relationships, it is a unique relationship to have, not something that is supposed to be anything goes.

And how have you determined that all family members should act in this way? How do you know that it's supposed to be the way you're saying it's supposed to be?

It is psychologically abnormal to have sex with someone who is in your family.

So something is immoral and unethical because it's abnormal? Is being left handed unethical and immoral too?
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#44 Barbariser
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Easy. LGBT relations are far more likely than Incestuous relations to produce people who are mentally and intellectually defunct enough to think that both of them have the same moral and/or social implications and thus must be treated in exactly the same way. I'm not a supporter of anti-incest laws between adults, but you have to admit that if they would reduce the number of people who would write something as blatantly stupid as the O.P., then that already counts as a valid reason for them.

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[QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Doing tings every ting lookin at tings and thinkin about tings dabadadobadade

Goddamn are you a terrible user.
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[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"]Doing tings every ting lookin at tings and thinkin about tings dabadadobadade

Goddamn are you a terrible user.

You only think that cause you didn't sing what I wrote
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Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control.MannyDelgado

Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseaseschampion837
Do you know what a condom is? Dumb c*nt.

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#49 Krelian-co
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incest does not harm people?

do you even know what happens when people of the same family have a kid?

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[QUOTE="MannyDelgado"]Nothing wrong with an incestuous relationship between consenting adults who use birth control.MannyDelgado

Unnatural as it risks offspring having diseaseschampion837
Do you know what a condom is? Dumb c*nt.

yeah because condoms are the answers, thats why undesired pregnancy is practically nonexistant.