How do atheists cope with the thought of nothingness when you die?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I have 521 eye witnesses that yesterday at my university I cried blood.

Here are the those who can testify that:

George F.

Maria A.

John B.

Andreas P.

Dimitra S.

.....

I explain in it all in my book "How I cried blood". Buy it now.

InEMplease

Would your friends be prepared to and actually die rather than recant their testimony? The 500 were and did.

The Apostles and early Christians willingly endured persecution and death for something they knew was a lie? The Apostles and early Christians, many of whom were eyewitnesses to the resurrection, were stoned, beheaded, boiled in oil, imprisoned, crucified, scourged, fed to lions, clothed in animal skins and then torn apart by wild beasts, tarred and lit on fire, disemboweled, burnt at the stake, etc., rather than recant their faith.

There were 10 periods of persecution of early Christians under the Roman Emperors Nero (Roman emperor AD 54–68 ) , Domitian (Roman emperor AD 81–96 ) , Trajan (Roman emperor AD 98–117 ), Marcus Aurelius (Roman emperor AD 161–180 ) , Septimius Severus (Roman emperor AD 193–211), Maximinus, Gaius Julius Verus (Roman emperor AD 235–238 ) , Decius (Roman emperor AD 249–251), Valerian (Roman emperor AD 253–260), Aurelian (Roman emperor AD 270–275), and Diocletian (Gaius Aurelius Valerius Diocletianus, reigned AD 284–305) and Maximian (reigned AD285–305) who governed as emperors together. Why did the Christians choose death rather than recount their belief in Christ?

Many early Church fathers and Christians were martyred for their belief in Christ rather than recanting their faith to save their lives.

The Christian faith grew and spread rapidly in spite of intense persecution.

This does not confirm anything. All it says is that people have died for what they believe in, which we all already know.

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

or maybe the few selected people who seen it was as stoned as mike?

Maybe the sun and Jesus body gave off the same effect to the bystanders?

InEMplease

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

Does anyone else see what he (blackregiment) does there? So apparently "free will" = accept Christ or burn.

No, one can attempt to live a perfectly sinless life, totally without sin by God's perfect standards, not ours, which by the way is impossible.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

Engrish_Major

Not eyewitnesses. Not those that would know from first hand knowledge if it was a lie they were dying for.

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Would your friends be prepared to and actually die rather than recant their testimony? The 500 were and did.

The Apostles and early Christians willingly endured persecution and death for something they knew was a lie? The Apostles and early Christians, many of whom were eyewitnesses to the resurrection, were stoned, beheaded, boiled in oil, imprisoned, crucified, scourged, fed to lions, clothed in animal skins and then torn apart by wild beasts, tarred and lit on fire, disemboweled, burnt at the stake, etc., rather than recant their faith.

There were 10 periods of persecution of early Christians under the Roman Emperors Nero (Roman emperor AD 54–68 ) , Domitian (Roman emperor AD 81–96 ) , Trajan (Roman emperor AD 98–117 ), Marcus Aurelius (Roman emperor AD 161–180 ) , Septimius Severus (Roman emperor AD 193–211), Maximinus, Gaius Julius Verus (Roman emperor AD 235–238 ) , Decius (Roman emperor AD 249–251), Valerian (Roman emperor AD 253–260), Aurelian (Roman emperor AD 270–275), and Diocletian (Gaius Aurelius Valerius Diocletianus, reigned AD 284–305) and Maximian (reigned AD285–305) who governed as emperors together. Why did the Christians choose death rather than recount their belief in Christ?

Many early Church fathers and Christians were martyred for their belief in Christ rather than recanting their faith to save their lives.

The Christian faith grew and spread rapidly in spite of intense persecution.

blackregiment

This does not confirm anything. All it says is that people have died for what they believe in, which we all already know.

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

This does not confirm anything. All it says is that people have died for what they believe in, which we all already know.

InEMplease

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

Knowing something isn't faith. So you know there is a God and that he was reborn through Christ because these accounts claimed they knew it. What does that say for everyone who has faith in Christ or God? Why can't you or anyone else who says the same thing as you change the minds of every non-believer on the planet?

When one is reborn, a new creature in Christ, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit who leads them to the truth as revealed by God in His Word. It is a personal relationship with Christ.

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

The idea of there being nothing after death doesn't bother me.

Not eyewitnesses. Not those that would know from first hand knowledge if it was a lie they were dying for.

blackregiment

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

No, it proves alot. Many of them were eyewitnesses. They died because they knew it was true because they saw the resurrected Christ with their own eyes. People don't die for something that they know is a lie.

blackregiment

Knowing something isn't faith. So you know there is a God and that he was reborn through Christ because these accounts claimed they knew it. What does that say for everyone who has faith in Christ or God? Why can't you or anyone else who says the same thing as you change the minds of every non-believer on the planet?

When one is reborn, a new creature in Christ, they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit who leads them to the truth as revealed by God in His Word. It is a personal relationship with Christ.

Death is fun!

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Yes. We might not quite know how to explain it yet, but we might in the future.magicalclick

I respect your right to believe that but that is a form of faith. There are many types of faith besides religious faith. Scientific naturalism is faith in "science of the gaps".

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." Robert Griffiths

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

[QUOTE="magicalclick"][QUOTE="blackregiment"]

I respect your right to believe that but that is a form of faith. There are many types of faith besides religious faith. Scientific naturalism is faith in "science of the gaps".

blackregiment

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." Robert Griffiths

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] wait what? was abc news back there interviewing witnesses?? maybe it was a guy who looked like jesus? blackregiment

or maybe the few selected people who seen it was as stoned as mike?

Maybe the sun and Jesus body gave off the same effect to the bystanders?

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

I find it hard to believe he conveniently rose from the dead, especially during the time where people actually believe the Earth was flat....

Let me ask you, what was the point of him sacrificing himself, without refering to the bible scriptors since I know I'm not gonna read them? Don't tell me the sole reason was because he wanted to kill himself for our sins.....

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"] Epic fail because theory is not Fact to begin with.Xx_Hopeless_xX

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." Robert Griffiths

Glad you liked it. Here's another.

Glad you liked it. Here's another.

blackregiment

The theory of evolution has nothing at all to do with the origin of life. Evolution begins only after life existed. The origin of life is covered by abiogenesis.

And unlike what is implied in the cartoon, we have a very extensive fossil record.

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." Robert Griffiths

blackregiment

Glad you liked it. Here's another.

Wow those comics are the most misinformative I have seen....

I guess the fossil record GabuEx had cited for you in a debate here some months ago has suddenly turned into a big questionmark! :lol:

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] wait what? was abc news back there interviewing witnesses?? maybe it was a guy who looked like jesus? blackregiment

or maybe the few selected people who seen it was as stoned as mike?

Maybe the sun and Jesus body gave off the same effect to the bystanders?

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

or maybe the few selected people who seen it was as stoned as mike?

Maybe the sun and Jesus body gave off the same effect to the bystanders?

tocool340

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

I find it hard to believe he conveniently rose from the dead, especially during the time where people actually believe the Earth was flat....

Let me ask you, what was the point of him sacrificing himself, without refering to the bible scriptors since I know I'm not gonna read them? Don't tell me the sole reason was because he wanted to kill himself for our sins.....

Here's why. I hope this helps clarify things. God by His nature is good, holy, just, and righteous. He cannot allow sin into His presence for He would not be holy. If He did not punish sin, He would not be just or righteous. We are all sinners and deserving of destruction. No one is good. We are all born with a sin nature.

We are all on a super highway heading for judgment and destruction. We are all on that highway and cannot change that whether we like it or not. God created us and He is in control. God owes us nothing more than what He has given us already. He does not owe us our next breath or heartbeat. God loves us however so He created an exit ramp from this highway to judgment and destruction in Christ who lived a perfect, sinless life, and suffered and died in payment for the sins of those that put their faith and trust in Him. He paid the price for us, the price we deserve to pay. He is the exit ramp of that super highway that we are all on.

God gave us a free will. We can use that free will to stay on the highway to destruction and judgment or choose the exit ramp to eternal life in Christ. The choice is ours God will not force us onto the exit ramp. He allows us to choose. He will be faithful in giving us the eternity we choose.

It matters not if one thinks God is a dictator. He is the Creator and it is His prerogative to do as He wishes with His creation. Thankfully, God is love and He showed His love for us in that while we were yet sinners, He manifested Himself in Christ, suffered, and died so that we could be saved. There is no greater love than this. God's the price of God's wrath against sin could only be paid by Christ. We are unable to save ourselves. Salvation is available only through Christ. We do not make the rules nor can we change them.

We can complain about it, reject it, or choose to disbelieve but we cannot avoid the consequences of our choice. God will be faithful in respecting our free will choice.

We should all be thankful that God gave us a choice, an exit ramp from that super highway that we are all on until we take the exit ramp in Christ.

One final thing. There are those that ask why Christians share their faith rather than keep it to themselves. There are those on these very threads that complain about Christians sharing their faith. We share our faith because our Lord and Savior has commanded us to be road signs on the super highway of life, pointing to the exit ramp in Christ. We cannot force anyone onto that exit ramp as some falsely accuse, all we can do is point to the exit ramp. While there are some that choose to ignore the road signs, there are others that do not. God is pleased when even a single soul chooses the exit ramp and His name is glorified by our presence on that super highway in obedience to His command to spread the Good News of salvation in Christ.

Even the last Pope acknowledged the virtues of evolution much more than you do.Engrish_Major

Blackregiment doesnt approve of catholics generally.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Even the last Pope acknowledged the virtues of evolution much more than you do.Teenaged

Blackregiment doesnt approve of catholics generally.

A theory is the speculation of man based on an observation of man. Facts do not speak. Men speculate about them. Scientific naturalism is faith in the speculations of man.

"If we need an atheist for a debate, I go to the philosophy department. The physics department isn't much use." Robert Griffiths

blackregiment

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

or maybe the few selected people who seen it was as stoned as mike?

Maybe the sun and Jesus body gave off the same effect to the bystanders?

comp_atkins

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

That's their free will choice.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

1Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"]

I find it hard to believe he conveniently rose from the dead, especially during the time where people actually believe the Earth was flat....

Let me ask you, what was the point of him sacrificing himself, without refering to the bible scriptors since I know I'm not gonna read them? Don't tell me the sole reason was because he wanted to kill himself for our sins.....

InEMplease

Here's why. I hope this helps clarify things. God by His nature is good, holy, just, and righteous. He cannot allow sin into His presence for He would not be holy. If He did not punish sin, He would not be just or righteous. We are all sinners and deserving of destruction. No one is good. We are all born with a sin nature.

We are all on a super highway heading for judgment and destruction. We are all on that highway and cannot change that whether we like it or not. God created us and He is in control. God owes us nothing more than what He has given us already. He does not owe us our next breath or heartbeat. God loves us however so He created an exit ramp from this highway to judgment and destruction in Christ who lived a perfect, sinless life, and suffered and died in payment for the sins of those that put their faith and trust in Him. He paid the price for us, the price we deserve to pay. He is the exit ramp of that super highway that we are all on.

God gave us a free will. We can use that free will to stay on the highway to destruction and judgment or choose the exit ramp to eternal life in Christ. The choice is ours God will not force us onto the exit ramp. He allows us to choose. He will be faithful in giving us the eternity we choose.

It matters not if one thinks God is a dictator. He is the Creator and it is His prerogative to do as He wishes with His creation. Thankfully, God is love and He showed His love for us in that while we were yet sinners, He manifested Himself in Christ, suffered, and died so that we could be saved. There is no greater love than this. God's the price of God's wrath against sin could only be paid by Christ. We are unable to save ourselves. Salvation is available only through Christ. We do not make the rules nor can we change them.

We can complain about it, reject it, or choose to disbelieve but we cannot avoid the consequences of our choice. God will be faithful in respecting our free will choice.

We should all be thankful that God gave us a choice, an exit ramp from that super highway that we are all on until we take the exit ramp in Christ.

One final thing. There are those that ask why Christians share their faith rather than keep it to themselves. There are those on these very threads that complain about Christians sharing their faith. We share our faith because our Lord and Savior has commanded us to be road signs on the super highway of life, pointing to the exit ramp in Christ. We cannot force anyone onto that exit ramp as some falsely accuse, all we can do is point to the exit ramp. While there are some that choose to ignore the road signs, there are others that do not. God is pleased when even a single soul chooses the exit ramp and His name is glorified by our presence on that super highway in obedience to His command to spread the Good News of salvation in Christ.

How do you know there is only 1 God?

The testimony of the Holy Spirit through my personal relationship with Him.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Even the last Pope acknowledged the virtues of evolution much more than you do.Teenaged

Blackregiment doesnt approve of catholics generally.

Don't speak for me.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

blackregiment

That's their free will choice.

How does free will answer anything of what he said?

If the people you talked to already thought the Bible is true then you wouldnt be talking to them. Your task is first to convince them that the Bible is true. If you do that then they dont have to listen to you anymore.

You know what? Now more than ever I am convinced that you are motivated to evangelise for salvation through works. I dont really care if you think you dont. I explained earlier why.

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] you keep quoting the bible as evidence for everything. the problem is you are speaking to people who do not see the bible as utter truth and final word on all things... you might as well be saying "because i said so"...

InEMplease

That's their free will choice.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

1Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

According you you, free will = accept Christ and God or "pay the price."

Not according to me, according to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He makes the rules, not I.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]Even the last Pope acknowledged the virtues of evolution much more than you do.blackregiment

Blackregiment doesnt approve of catholics generally.

Don't speak for me.

If I am wrong then I guess you can now state that you have no problem with Catholics, no?

If you cant state that then dont come and tell me that I shouldnt speak for you. Period.

1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1Co 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1Co 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
1Co 2:16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

blackregiment

I can cite my Brothers Grimm book..... does that prove that fairies, leprecons, unicorns and giants exist?
The Bible is not proof.

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

blackregiment

Does anyone else see what he (blackregiment) does there? So apparently "free will" = accept Christ or burn.

No, one can attempt to live a perfectly sinless life, totally without sin by God's perfect standards, not ours, which by the way is impossible.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

Or maybe Jesus actually arose from the dead, proving He was God and He means what He said. Of course, we all have a free will to chose to accept Christ's sacrifice in payment for our sins or pay the price ourselves. He will not force anyone to accept His gift of eternal salvation.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Joh 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
Joh 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
Joh 6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Joh 6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1Jn 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jn 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life: and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jn 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Rom 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

blackregiment

That's their free will choice.

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

1Th 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

[QUOTE="InEMplease"]

How do you know there is only 1 God?

blackregiment

The testimony of the Holy Spirit through my personal relationship with Him.

What about the other religions that exist, especially the ones that predate Chrisitianity?

[QUOTE="blackregiment"]

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"] you keep quoting the bible as evidence for everything. the problem is you are speaking to people who do not see the bible as utter truth and final word on all things... you might as well be saying "because i said so"...

Teenaged

That's their free will choice.

How does free will answer anything of what he said?

If the people you talked to already thought the Bible is true then you wouldnt be talking to them. Your task is first to convince them that the Bible is true. If you do that then they dont have to listen to you anymore.

You know what? Now more than ever I am convinced that you are motivated to evangelise for salvation through works. I dont really care if you think you dont. I explained earlier why.

No sorry. my responsibility to the Lord is to spread the Gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ. What a person does with it is between them and the Lord.

Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

The Lord saves, people don't.

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

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How do you know there is only 1 God?

ragek1ll589

The testimony of the Holy Spirit through my personal relationship with Him.

What about the other religions that exist, especially the ones that predate Chrisitianity?

You don't understand, those religions don't have Jesus who died for our sins