How do people in USA feel about Native Americans?

I was always wondering... because I don't live in the United States...

It all has began back in the, about XVII century...

Great Britian, France and Spain started "colonization" in north america, Later United states were estabilished. (as well as canada and mexico)
They were slaughtered, masses were killed, diseases brought from Europe caused death ratio growin up.
Now they count only 48 million of people (as wikipedia says)



How do you feel about that you live on THEIR LAND?

Can you meet any Native American on the street?
Or is it something uncommon?

How do you feel about that you live on THEIR LAND? Matthew-first

I don't know how they feel

If you want to meet one, go to a casino.

(I keed. I keed)

They dont believe in land ownership. Native americans thought the idea of owning land was silly. So it's not really their land.

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]How do you feel about that you live on THEIR LAND? Jandurin

They dont believe in land ownership. Native americans thought the idea of owning land was silly. So it's not really their land.

sonicare

It's sad what happened to them but really I own the land I live on so yeah.

They were born there... they lived there for centuries before 'colonization' began...

Matthew-first

Yep we were needle dicks, ass wagons or whatever to them but speaking about now a days they are just normal people just like everyone else living in the states.

We killed them for their land fair and square.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]We killed them for their land fair and square.Planet_Pluto

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They were born there... they lived there for centuries before 'colonization' began...

sonicare

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]We killed them for their land fair and square.Planet_Pluto

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]We killed them for their land fair and square.Engrish_Major

I feel like any other modern nation who's ancestors drove out or fought and killed other people for the current land. You know, like every other nation in the world.

Survival of the fittest. They were conquered. Simple as that. Europe had already done its majority of killing and massive displacement by then.

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[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

They were born there... they lived there for centuries before 'colonization' began...

Matthew-first

We killed them for their land fair and square.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Planet_Pluto"]Just a footnote.... Different tribes were killing eachother for resources for quite some time before the white man ever set one foot here.

sonicare

Obviously since we are Americans we are in the wrong. Duh.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]We killed them for their land fair and square.Engrish_Major

I've just come across far too many people who have a romanticized vision of what life was like in pre-colonial North America. Visions of the Natives sitting around, calmly passing peace-pipes around and never getting into any sort of violent skirmishes. That was the reason I made that post.

(Note:I'm not trying to implythat you are one of those people.)

"They" did not live on my land or any land, they lived wherever was convenient to set up camp, and had no concept of land ownership, deeds, or any written laguage.

I respect their simple, natural ways, but these were overpowered and bulldozed by "progress."

Evolution is nature, and we welcome them to become part of "us."

That is all we have to offer.

[QUOTE="sonicare"] If you consider that wrong. Maybe it's just human nature? A historical look at man kind shows that kind of behavior is pretty much the norm. Societies have been evolving and developing a code of morality, but it's kind of disingenuous to judge people of the past by our standards of today. Things were much different back then and life must have sucked majorly.Engrish_Major

Yeah, you want to continue to be an apologist for actions you had absolutely nothing to do with in the past and believe that we should answer for things that nobody else in the world has had to.

It's pretty annoying.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sonicare"] If you consider that wrong. Maybe it's just human nature? A historical look at man kind shows that kind of behavior is pretty much the norm. Societies have been evolving and developing a code of morality, but it's kind of disingenuous to judge people of the past by our standards of today. Things were much different back then and life must have sucked majorly.Wasdie

Yeah, you want to continue to be an apologist for actions you had absolutely nothing to do with in the past and believe that we should answer for things that nobody else in the world has had to.

It's pretty annoying.

I am not allowed to state that the actions of my ancestors may have been wrong? If you find my posts annoying, feel free to ignore them.Engrish_Major

You are, but you're also trying to drum up sympathy and support, and that's annoying.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]I am not allowed to state that the actions of my ancestors may have been wrong? If you find my posts annoying, feel free to ignore them.Wasdie

You are, but you're also trying to drum up sympathy and support, and that's annoying.

They're still discriminated against and hated by several American communities.

Mostly from the radical christian right in the south (but who don't they hate amirite?) I've read multiple reports of unfair and insensitive treatments. But for the most part, most Americans simply don't think about Native Americans due to a lack of contact and are merely indifferent despite their past.

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[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

They were born there... they lived there for centuries before 'colonization' began...

Matthew-first

It doesn't matter who you're ancestors are, all that matters is who you are.

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[QUOTE="sonicare"] Most people currently living in the US were born there as well.

toast_burner

It doesn't matter who you're ancestors are, all that matters is who you are.

I'm from northern Nevada. There's Paiute Indians there especially in the reservation at Schurz between Fallon and Hawthorne. There's also some living outside of reservations. They're people just like everybody else.

There's plenty in Fallon.

4th of July from 2003:

Heck. We have plenty of Canadians too.

I bought my land. It's mine. And whatever country you live in was formed by different groups in history displacing the last group. Hypocrite.LJS9502_basic

Great logic from the master himself. :)

[QUOTE="sonicare"] If you consider that wrong. Maybe it's just human nature? A historical look at man kind shows that kind of behavior is pretty much the norm. Societies have been evolving and developing a code of morality, but it's kind of disingenuous to judge people of the past by our standards of today. Things were much different back then and life must have sucked majorly.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="sonicare"] You should thumb your nose at all of past history then. I find it a little self righteous to sit back and judge people from the safety, convenience, and luxury of modern times. Society has evolved over the years. Education and human rights have improved. The ideas of democracy, value of human life, rights, etc. - things we take for granted today - were simply not widely held concepts hundreds of years ago. People lived in incredible poverty. They lived under oppressive regimes. Education was lacking. Disease was prevalent and lifespans were short. The freedoms we take for granted were not available back then. And yet you act like your somehow a much better person than everyone from the past? How is that not incredibly self righteous and narrow minded? If most people put themselves in their shoes, they'd hardly be better. I'm not using it to excuse those actions, just to understand them.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sonicare"] You should thumb your nose at all of past history then. I find it a little self righteous to sit back and judge people from the safety, convenience, and luxury of modern times. Society has evolved over the years. Education and human rights have improved. The ideas of democracy, value of human life, rights, etc. - things we take for granted today - were simply not widely held concepts hundreds of years ago. People lived in incredible poverty. They lived under oppressive regimes. Education was lacking. Disease was prevalent and lifespans were short. The freedoms we take for granted were not available back then. And yet you act like your somehow a much better person than everyone from the past? How is that not incredibly self righteous and narrow minded? If most people put themselves in their shoes, they'd hardly be better. I'm not using it to excuse those actions, just to understand them.sonicare

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]I am not allowed to state that the actions of my ancestors may have been wrong? If you find my posts annoying, feel free to ignore them.Engrish_Major

You are, but you're also trying to drum up sympathy and support, and that's annoying.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] What, exactly, am I "thumbing my nose at"? I have stated nothing but facts. I don't understand the vitriol towards me. I have not stated anything offensive. Tell me - is it preferred that I excuse the genocide in our history, or that I merely ignore it?LJS9502_basic

I am completely neutral towards the Native American community.