How do people in USA feel about Native Americans?

[QUOTE="sonicare"] It would be preferrable to understand it. I'm just saying that it's easy to look down upon past events in history, but when you judge them out of the context in which they happened, then it's not always fair. As for the vitriol, that's only because you are from DC and I hate the Washington Redskins.Engrish_Major

I was engaged to one. They get free health care and free checks from their tribes. Money just for being Native. What if I walked up to you and said: "Hey man, thanks for being white, here's two grand." That's pretty much what it is like except exchange white with Native American. Her mom was real racist though, which kinda sucked.

Sucks that it happened the way it did, but it did happen, and long enough ago that there's nothing to really be done. Makari

[QUOTE="Makari"]Sucks that it happened the way it did, but it did happen, and long enough ago that there's nothing to really be done. Matthew-first

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="sonicare"] It would be preferrable to understand it. I'm just saying that it's easy to look down upon past events in history, but when you judge them out of the context in which they happened, then it's not always fair. As for the vitriol, that's only because you are from DC and I hate the Washington Redskins.Matthew-first

If you're that sure, put a date on it and stake your reputation on it.

>I agree, but not that long enought to forget.Matthew-first

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]>I agree, but not that long enought to forget.Makari

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]>I agree, but not that long enought to forget.Makari

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] I always strive to understand the motives by the creators of history - and I read plenty of it. Understanding does not equal excusing. The fact is that the US government waged war against an indiginous people up until the very late 19th century, virtually decimating their numbers through direct and indirect means. I'm not sure how acknowledging that fact is in any way "annoying" (Wasdie) or "thumbing my nose" (you). And I'm always receptive to people pointing out inaccuracies in my posts. But I don't believe that there are any in this thread. Edit - and I don't follow football.jun_aka_pekto

If you're that sure, put a date on it and stake your reputation on it.

Iran's next?

Matthew-first

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[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

US still make wars... Iran's next?
I don't predict... I'm sure of it.
(different meaning of em but still)

Matthew-first

If you're that sure, put a date on it and stake your reputation on it.

I take it that means you're not sure then. No one is.

I guess the real question is who should apologize? Should you apologize for the actions of your predecessors? My ancestors werent even in the US during those times, but I find the whole idea kind of ridiculous. Does that mean I am a better person than you because my ancestors never owned slaves nor engaged in attacks against the native americans?sonicare

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Iran's next?

Jandurin

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Matthew-first"]>I agree, but not that long enought to forget.sonicare

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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

If you're that sure, put a date on it and stake your reputation on it.

jun_aka_pekto

I take it that means you're not sure then. No one is.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Makari"] No need to forget, but it's essentially done with and there's nothing to actively apologize for anymore - just remember that it happened, sure. If you're European in ancestry, likely somewhere in your history ancestors were massive pricks to other people in Africa/Asia/Americas.Engrish_Major

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[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]


Im not a fortune teller... but look whats goin on...
Same was with iraq...
"You are tewowists! we wahrr with you.!"
Now
"You make Nucweelar bumbs! soon Warrrh you too...!"
:P

Matthew-first

I take it that means you're not sure then. No one is.

I'm sure...why? us always make wars. everywhere. Vietnam etc etc.

Matthew-first

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Matthew-first

France is responsible for getting us into Vietnam, you moron.

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I take it that means you're not sure then. No one is.

sonicare

I'm sure...why? us always make wars. everywhere. Vietnam etc etc.

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

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TheHighWind

France is responsible for getting us into Vietnam, you moron.

That's fine. I think the US govt. should do the same thing. My issue is with things like reparations and such. Because reparations should be paid for by those at fault not by anyone who just happens to live somewhere.sonicare

Anyway, most people in the US, at some point, were aware of the Indian Wars from the time the first settlers set foot in the continent. They had to be because it was taught in most schools. It's just that many choose to forget or simply don't care, much like many here don't give a crap about their grammar/spelling.

I'll now leave this forum for a movie. I'll be back later ^^
(reply later!) :)

Anyway, most people in the US, at some point, were aware of the Indian Wars from the time the first settlers set foot in the continent. They had to be because it was taught in most schools. It's just that many choose to forget or simply don't care, much like many here don't give a crap about their grammar/spelling.

jun_aka_pekto

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[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]


Im not a fortune teller... but look whats goin on...
Same was with iraq...
"You are tewowists! we wahrr with you.!"
Now
"You make Nucweelar bumbs! soon Warrrh you too...!"
:P

Matthew-first

I take it that means you're not sure then. No one is.

No problem. It's just that whenever I briefed a pilot on what the weather is going to be along his flight route, I always staked my reputation on it. Although, I'm confident about what I briefed, there's always a degree of uncertainty. Throughout the years, I probably had a 95% accuracy on all the briefings I've ever done. But, that 5% inaccuracy weighed more heavily on my mind because if an aircraft I briefed fell into that group and it crashed and/or lives were lost, my career would have been finished.

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TheHighWind

France is responsible for getting us into Vietnam, you moron.

It was a Genocide what happened to them, and while you cannot change the past I wish people would be more respectful to what happened. Most public education conviently ignore most of the attrocitous committed against them, the modern issues, and frequently mention them like a people that once existed. I'm even more disgusted with schools using Native American mascots and imagry, its disrespectful racist, and numerous studies have pointed to negative effects of having Native American mascots like poor self-esteem among Native students, more acceptance and belief of American Indian stereotypes and other racial stereotypes. I'm sorry but having a professional Football team called "The Redskins" is not appropriate, it would be like having a Football team called "The N******" :|

Who cares anymore? Whats done is done....Jebus213

Who cares anymore? Whats done is done....Jebus213

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Who cares anymore? Whats done is done....DarkGamer007

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

I can't understand how people are still complaining about crap that happened 200 years ago that everyone already acknowledges.

I mean, its like saying "hey British people, how do you feel about how Britain used to be a bunch of jerks and you had no way to control what they did centuries ago"?

Seriously, I can't understand it. Is there a point? Are you dissing America for doing what every other nation ever has done before?

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

DarkGamer007

"History" with a capital "H"? Like...the History Channel?

I like that channel.

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Who cares anymore? Whats done is done....Jandurin

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

Necrifer

"History" with a capital "H"? Like...the History Channel?

Well both actually, History and history. See if we cannot learn from how or why the History Channel became a channel about cutting trees and aliens, then we cannot learn how to prevent our other beloved channels from doing the same! :p

they're cool i guess

We don't live on their land. We conquered them.

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[QUOTE="Jebus213"]Who cares anymore? Whats done is done....Jandurin

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repeat it.

Guilty

Guilty

tenaka2

l already posted this but I deleted it. I don't want to come off as a racist because im not. This is just a historical fact, okay? In the war between the Native Americans and the settlers, the Native Americans fired the first shots. There were people living out on the prairies that were too affraid to leave thier homes because the Natives would kill them. It doesn't make what the settlers did okay but it was war.

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Guilty

LJS9502_basic

Yet quick to celebrate the 4th of July.

Must be nice to be able to chose what to be proud or ashamed of based upon convenience.

They dont believe in land ownership. Native americans thought the idea of owning land was silly. So it's not really their land.

sonicare

Must be nice to be able to chose what to be proud or ashamed of based upon convenience.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

They dont believe in land ownership. Native americans thought the idea of owning land was silly. So it's not really their land.

kuraimen