How do you feel about sex scenes in movies, TV shows, etc.?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.SNIPER4321

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

It's a bit annoying for me.

Don't get me wrong, I loved all the nipples and gratutious sex in Spartacus and GoT; Emilia Clarke is sexy af, but I get irked because it feels tacked on

supa_badman

Okay, I forgot about Spartacus. I kind of love Gods of the Arena because of how lavish and weird the orgies are. It's like watching a circus.

But anything after that, the sex scenes in Vengeance and War of the Damned were pretty boring and killed screen time.

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.Michael0134567

[QUOTE="espoac"]

I take issue with the idea that it's unhealthy to enjoy violence in films and dislike elaborated sex scenes. Scenes of violence are evocative by virtue of usually being the culmination of a plot's central conflict. Sex scenes are not and do not produce any emotional response. At best sex moves the plot forward or serves as character development. This can be accomplished, however, by implying the act and not showing it. Graphic visualizations of sex are just obnoxious in a show that takes itself seriously. 

theone86

And why are they obnoxious?  Furthermore, to people saying they need to be relevant to the plot, why?  Frankly, I think the idea that sex scenes need to have relevance to the plot underscores this idea that sex has to be put in the corner.  Sex is a part of everyday life, why not have it in movies just because?  These characters are (usually) human, they have urges like everybody else, why not show them having sex as a matter of fact?  Sex is something everybody does, yet when it comes to showing it on screen we have to put all these qualifications and restrictions on it, why?  Just accept it as a beautiful part of human existence.  I wasn't joking before about wanting full porno, either.  I would love to see a legitimate movie do an actual porn scene.  Hell, movies can get away with showing genitalia now, why not just put it all together?

Usually not much of a point to them, but hey, we usually get to see some hot actress naked :P

Mostly unneeded and unnecessary.

Only time I found it relevant was in 1984.

If they're relevant and tastefully directed then they're fine. Awkward when a parent walks in though :P

They make me feel like I'm not as exciting.  I cant remember the last time I ripped off my and my girlfriends clothes and threw her on top of a table and then did the deed.  But apparently, in the movies, that's the norm.

I don't like them because they make me feel even more foreveralone than I already am. 

I don't like them because they make me feel even more foreveralone than I already am. 

gamerguru100

They usually make me feel more just boring than anything. Real sex is pretty much never as exciting as it is on TV shows or movies.

[QUOTE="gamerguru100"]

I don't like them because they make me feel even more foreveralone than I already am. 

turtlethetaffer

They usually make me feel more just boring than anything. Real sex is pretty much never as exciting as it is on TV shows or movies.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

  I would love to see a legitimate movie do an actual porn scene.  Hell, movies can get away with showing genitalia now, why not just put it all together?

Sharpie125

Sounds like Lars von Trier is your man.

I love a (again) sensual and evocative scene, and while sex may be a part of every day life, voyeurism isn't. Even if two characters are having casual sex, that's as much plot or character development as everything else people have been discussing. If it's a sex scene for the sake of boobies, chances are it's going to be shoddy. And that is more an affront to the medium than the idea itself.

See, I have a problem with this as well.  You're basically assuming that any depiction of sex that doesn't have some pertinence to the plot is done simply for juvenile purposes, why does sex automatically have to be juvenile and voyeuristic?  Why can't it just be a stark depiction of an integral part of the human experience.  If there's a scene where characters are eating breakfast or brushing their teeth we don't ask if those acts are integral to the plot, sex should be no different.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="espoac"]

I take issue with the idea that it's unhealthy to enjoy violence in films and dislike elaborated sex scenes. Scenes of violence are evocative by virtue of usually being the culmination of a plot's central conflict. Sex scenes are not and do not produce any emotional response. At best sex moves the plot forward or serves as character development. This can be accomplished, however, by implying the act and not showing it. Graphic visualizations of sex are just obnoxious in a show that takes itself seriously. 

espoac

And why are they obnoxious?  Furthermore, to people saying they need to be relevant to the plot, why?  Frankly, I think the idea that sex scenes need to have relevance to the plot underscores this idea that sex has to be put in the corner.  Sex is a part of everyday life, why not have it in movies just because?  These characters are (usually) human, they have urges like everybody else, why not show them having sex as a matter of fact?  Sex is something everybody does, yet when it comes to showing it on screen we have to put all these qualifications and restrictions on it, why?  Just accept it as a beautiful part of human existence.  I wasn't joking before about wanting full porno, either.  I would love to see a legitimate movie do an actual porn scene.  Hell, movies can get away with showing genitalia now, why not just put it all together?

You see it as that, and maybe in the films you've seen it in it is, but it isn't necessarily.  It can just be an attempt to bring a part of everyday life into the cinematic realm.

If there's a scene where characters are eating breakfast or brushing their teeth we don't ask if those acts are integral to the plot, sex should be no different.theone86

They make me feel like I'm not as exciting.  I cant remember the last time I ripped off my and my girlfriends clothes and threw her on top of a table and then did the deed.  But apparently, in the movies, that's the norm.

sonicare

There's a first time for everything :P

[QUOTE="theone86"]If there's a scene where characters are eating breakfast or brushing their teeth we don't ask if those acts are integral to the plot, sex should be no different.JML897

Some movies do that, it establishes mood.

.sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.LJS9502_basic

I don't hate them. I hate that the media portrays sex scenes as something naughty but bloody violence is great.

I guess those, along with scenes of major violence, don't really have to be in a movie.  I'd say generally writers put sex scenes into movies to quickly prove the point that two people "love" each other without really needing to have good acting and writing.  

You know how many really good horror movies tend to not even show you whats happening?  I think the same idea could apply to sex scenes and scenes of violence.   If a writer or director could make a scene implying that something happened, then it could be much more powerful.  For example, if a writer wanted to show that two people loved each other, they could create a scene like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbJpJBKUf4k  This scene hits like a bag of bricks because prior to this scene Luscious had feigned interest in Ivy.  Instead of a sex scene as the reveal for their love for each other (which is common in many movies) the writer left the audience in suspense as to whether Luscious would actually come back for Ivy.  Him coming out of the darkness and reaching for her hand at the very last moment was confirmation that he loved her, a physical act of love with no sex scene required.  And later in the movie there is another scene where Luscious verbally professes his love for Ivy on her porch.

[QUOTE="supa_badman"][QUOTE="Sharpie125"]

Okay, I forgot about Spartacus. I kind of love Gods of the Arena because of how lavish and weird the orgies are. It's like watching a circus.

But anything after that, the sex scenes in Vengeance and War of the Damned were pretty boring and killed screen time.

thebest31406

[QUOTE="espoac"]

I take issue with the idea that it's unhealthy to enjoy violence in films and dislike elaborated sex scenes. Scenes of violence are evocative by virtue of usually being the culmination of a plot's central conflict. Sex scenes are not and do not produce any emotional response. At best sex moves the plot forward or serves as character development. This can be accomplished, however, by implying the act and not showing it. Graphic visualizations of sex are just obnoxious in a show that takes itself seriously. 

theone86

And why are they obnoxious?  Furthermore, to people saying they need to be relevant to the plot, why?  Frankly, I think the idea that sex scenes need to have relevance to the plot underscores this idea that sex has to be put in the corner.  Sex is a part of everyday life, why not have it in movies just because?  These characters are (usually) human, they have urges like everybody else, why not show them having sex

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"].sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.SNIPER4321

I'm not wasting too much time on developing plot, but things shouldn't be rushed, either, so sex scenes are usually fine.

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"].sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.SNIPER4321

please find another board to troll

this is painful

[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"].sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.SNIPER4321

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="espoac"]

I take issue with the idea that it's unhealthy to enjoy violence in films and dislike elaborated sex scenes. Scenes of violence are evocative by virtue of usually being the culmination of a plot's central conflict. Sex scenes are not and do not produce any emotional response. At best sex moves the plot forward or serves as character development. This can be accomplished, however, by implying the act and not showing it. Graphic visualizations of sex are just obnoxious in a show that takes itself seriously. 

dramaybaz

And why are they obnoxious?  Furthermore, to people saying they need to be relevant to the plot, why?  Frankly, I think the idea that sex scenes need to have relevance to the plot underscores this idea that sex has to be put in the corner.  Sex is a part of everyday life, why not have it in movies just because?  These characters are (usually) human, they have urges like everybody else, why not show them having sex

There are plenty of things characters do in movies that aren't directly related to the plot.  An extra two minutes isn't going to suddenly make the movie too long, and if you don't want to see sex scenes then don't watch movies with sex scenes.

There are plenty of things characters do in movies that aren't directly related to the plot.

theone86

Very true, and often it doesn't bother us b/c it can still add to a film, so I don't really get the complaints here.

They should definitely be relevant to the story if they are included. Sometimes it gets on my nerves when I watch, for example an HBO show, and they thrown in a sex scenes just for ratings. I'm watching said show or movie for it's content, story, acting, action etc. If something is included (not only sex) that isn't necessary to the story then it usually irks me. ferrari2001

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

  I would love to see a legitimate movie do an actual porn scene.  Hell, movies can get away with showing genitalia now, why not just put it all together?

theone86

Sounds like Lars von Trier is your man.

I love a (again) sensual and evocative scene, and while sex may be a part of every day life, voyeurism isn't. Even if two characters are having casual sex, that's as much plot or character development as everything else people have been discussing. If it's a sex scene for the sake of boobies, chances are it's going to be shoddy. And that is more an affront to the medium than the idea itself.

See, I have a problem with this as well.  You're basically assuming that any depiction of sex that doesn't have some pertinence to the plot is done simply for juvenile purposes, why does sex automatically have to be juvenile and voyeuristic?  Why can't it just be a stark depiction of an integral part of the human experience.  If there's a scene where characters are eating breakfast or brushing their teeth we don't ask if those acts are integral to the plot, sex should be no different.

At the risk of beating a dead horse (should have checked your reply sooner), I'm saying nothing should be inpertinent to the plot or characters. Everything that is part of a movie should be in the director's vision and should benefit the movie in some way, as part of the auteur theory. But maybe the sex scene is just masterfully shot, who knows? If there's a scene where characters are just eating breakfast or just brushing their teeth or just having sex, we should ask if those scenes are necessary (and they're not.) Not to any story-telling medium, if that's not its main intention.

Voyeuristic doesn't automatically equal juvenile, either. A character-driven, slice of life story is an example of voyeurism in film. We are watching a depiction of these peoples' lives, and if sex is there, that's what happens. There's your stark depiction. It's still related to the plot or characters because that is what the movie is. Also because they are real people, a part of the "human experience." Now, what if they weren't normal people? What if they were superheroes? Or aliens (and of course they have to have boobs)? If I'm getting you, you want realistic depictions of sex in films or TV in the same way violence is okay because sex is a big part of human nature. I'm fine with that sentiment, but a bad sex scene is a bad sex scene in the same way a badly written or shot scene is... well, bad. True Blood's sex scenes' only intention is titillation, in the trying-too-hard, fake orgasm porn way. Isn't that more damaging to the idea than anything else?

This drive for making society "okay" with sex through movies sounds like a justification for making society "okay" with porn. Porn and sex should not be taboo imo, but there are certain spheres where it's out of place.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"].sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.VaguelyTagged

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.SNIPER4321

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Don't ever talk about Titanic that way!

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]sometimes it takes away from the atmosphere of the movie.chaoscougar1

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Don't ever talk about Titanic that way!

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] exactly. in action movies it kills all atmosphere that make it badass. Titanic has all romance scenes and most boring and worst movie ever with some of the worst OST ever...LJS9502_basic

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Don't ever talk about Titanic that way!

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I watch movies for them. Am I the only one?

I don't pay attention to them. 

I watch movies for them. Am I the only one?

Alienware_fan

I don't really care one way or the other.

I enjoy them except when your watching something with your mom or other family member and it happens. Becomes really awkward.

Titanic is a good movie. It's not without its flaws, but its strong points; attention to detail, size and scope, soundtrack, plotting, and performances by some of the supporting cast (Victor Garber as Thomas Andrews is a standout), and some genuinely good moments (the "Nearer My God to Thee" scene) add up to be more than whatever cheesy stupidity you accuse the central love story of.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"]It depends. In Spartacus 99% of them were gratuitous, pointless, and extremely dumb. In Game of Thrones they were sometimes plot relevant (i.e, the one at the end of the first episode), but as long as they aren't unnecessary or there just for the sake of it, but I'm fine. Also, another thing in regards to violence over sex, why is it okay to watch a sword go through someone's throat, but it's wrong to show a d!ck going into a v@gina, even when it's implied? Please do tell me. applesxc47

A sword going through a guy's throat doesn't often last 5 minutes and is awkward as shit.