How long and how easily could the U.S. conquer Canada militarily?

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#1 BluRayHiDef
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Well, how difficulut of a task would it be? Could Canada's army, navy, and airforce compete with those of the U.S.? Also, what would be the best option for the U.S. to take? A ground assault, a naval assault, or an air assault? The plan will be the following:

1. Overthrow the Canadian Government

2. Dismantle its military

3. Displace its citizens to vacant U.S. territory within the current boarders of the U.S.

4. Transform Canada into a huge military base and use its coastline as a naval front.

5. From there, we'd launch a naval-assault on Greenland and take it over.

6. We should also do the same to South America.

7. The United States would become a huge empire which includes all of North and South America, and Greenland.

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#2 GazaAli
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You went there
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#3 Allicrombie
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I dont see a problem. We'd just be fighting hordes of moose and red shirted mounties anyway. >.>

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#4 Colin1192
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You really need to stop...

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#5 branketra
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I'd be more interested in Nappa vs Canada.
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#6 horgen  Moderator
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I dont see a problem. We'd just be fighting hordes of moose and red shirted mounties anyway. >.>

Allicrombie
And damn cold weather.
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#7 BluRayHiDef
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You really need to stop...

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No one forced you to enter this thread.

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[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

You really need to stop...

BluRayHiDef

No one forced you to enter this thread.

A sense of moral obligation forced him to deploy to this thread to help the freedom-loving people of OT throw off the oppressive yoke of terrible topic ideas.
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#9 theone86
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I dont see a problem. We'd just be fighting hordes of moose and red shirted mounties anyway. >.>

Allicrombie

That's assuming that we're only fighting Canadians. Isn't Canada still officially a part of Great Britain? I think they might be obliged to intervene, not to mention the other nations that might do the same based solely on principle.

Also, why would we want to invade Canada? Aside from them not having any huge amounts of strategic resources, we don't seem to exactly see eye to eye on a lot of issues, seems like it would create more problems for boths sides.

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#10 topsemag55
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This is an impossibility even in the hypothetical, as I've served in the military and worked with my Canadian counterparts.

The last warfare with Canada was the War of 1812. Since then, Canada and the United States are currently the world's largest trading partners, share the world's longest border, and have significant interoperability within the defence sphere.

The Vice Commander of NORAD is a three-star Canadian general.

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#11 theone86
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

You really need to stop...

xaos

No one forced you to enter this thread.

A sense of moral obligation forced him to deploy to this thread to help the freedom-loving people of OT throw off the oppressive yoke of terrible topic ideas.

Also, wasn't TC in that thread about fighting off an enemy invasion not too long ago? Is it safe to say this is his mentality, that he's worried about an invasion of his country but at the same time speculating about an invasion of his northern neighbors?

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#12 BluRayHiDef
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This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

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#13 rawsavon
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It won't be as easy as everyone thinks. ...especially if the Canadians can hold out for winter Most Americans are not used to those conditions. It would be hell fighting in that artic air...frostbite and other skin issues would be a major concern me thinks
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#14 rawsavon
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This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

BluRayHiDef
If you just wanted to know military strength, a quick google search would have answered your question
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#15 Colin1192
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its rather common knowledge that the US spends the most on military and has the most personnel.

Why you continue to make these topics is beyond me

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#16 MgamerBD
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If there ever came a time...I would be happy to invade. Them maple syrup, commenwealth, peace loving Canadians have it coming :x
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#17 BluRayHiDef
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its rather common knowledge that the US spends the most on military and has the most personnel.

Why you continue to make these topics is beyond me

Colin1192

I still don't understand why you enter and participate in topics you don't like. No one forced you to come into this thread. If I have a desire to make a topic, then I go ahead and do it. Why does it matter to YOU what I decide to do?

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It won't be as easy as everyone thinks. ...especially if the Canadians can hold out for winter Most Americans are not used to those conditions. It would be hell fighting in that artic air...frostbite and other skin issues would be a major concern me thinksrawsavon

We're talking about soldiers here, not a bunch of yuppies on vacation who forgot to pack their long johns. We're the best equipped military in the world, we have the equipment to fight in cold environments and the medical equipment to deal with something like frostbite.

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It depends. If it wants to maintain the country's infra-structure, quite a while. If it just wants to remove Canada from the map entirely, less than a day.

Don't worry, it isn't going to happen.

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#20 topsemag55
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This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

BluRayHiDef

Your topic title says "conquer", and that is an offensive term to me as a veteran. The United States doesn't control other nations. Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, etc. are not yoked with oppression.

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#21 theone86
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This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

BluRayHiDef

Just my inner psychiatrist taking a critical look at something. Now tell me, what do you think of when you look at this:

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#22 Colin1192
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[QUOTE="Colin1192"]

its rather common knowledge that the US spends the most on military and has the most personnel.

Why you continue to make these topics is beyond me

BluRayHiDef

I still don't understand why you enter and participate in topics you don't like. No one forced you to come into this thread. If I have a desire to make a topic, then I go ahead and do it. Why does it matter to YOU what I decide to do?

I come in here to share the knowldege I possess on the topic that you seem to not have.

The military might of the US is better than anyone else. Canada is farther down on the list of countries who spend on their military. Based on might alone, its a rather easy choice

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#23 BluRayHiDef
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It depends. If it wants to maintain the country's infra-structure, quite a while. If it just wants to remove Canada from the map entirely, less than a day.

Don't worry, it isn't going to happen.

TehOverkill

I think the U.S. should do the following:

1. Overthrow the Canadian Government

2. Dismantle its military

3. Displace its citizens to vacant U.S. territory within the current boarders of the U.S.

4. Transform Canada into a huge military base and use its coastline as a naval front.

5. From there, we'd launch a naval-assault on Greenland and take it over.

6. We should also do the same to South America.

7. The united states would become a huge empire which includes all of North and South America, and Greenland.

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#24 theone86
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

This is purely a HYPOTHETICAL question that is only concerned with the technical capabilities of each country. I know that a war between each of these countries is highly improbable, but I'm only concerned with knowing which military would come out on top if something like this did happen.

topsemag55

Your topic title says "conquer", and that is an offensive term to me as a veteran. The United States doesn't control other nations. Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, etc. are not yoked with oppression.

Yeah, we don't control other nations, we only install oppressive dictators who are sympathetic to our interests and then get worked up into a frenzy when those people either turn on us when the gravy train runs out or when the people of the country actually take actions against these dictators and take government into their own hands.

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#25 Devouring_One
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they would need a militatry to take over canada. canada would probably accept it
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#26 Wilfred_Owen
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The maple syrup would jam our weapons! Then we'll be at the mercy of the mounties and there trusty mounts.
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The maple syrup would jam our weapons! Then we'll be at the mercy of the mounties and there trusty mounts.Wilfred_Owen

Oh we wont have to worry about syrup see. The U.S military will deploy its secrete weapon.

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#28 psychobrew
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I think it would be extremely tough. Not the war part, but the politics. Our nation would become divided. We'd have peace activists marching in the streets. And we'd have the democrats and the republicans at eachothers throat. In essence, we'd become our own worst enemy.
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It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces...
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[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]

I dont see a problem. We'd just be fighting hordes of moose and red shirted mounties anyway. >.>

They also got this  That could be a problem
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#31 deactivated-5c03000d4b1b4
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Canada have an army? :|
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#32 psychobrew
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It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces... sSubZerOo

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces... psychobrew

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

I lol'ed. :lol:

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces... psychobrew

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

:| No you wouldn't.. What would happen is we would see a great schism in the UN.. Due to the US being pretty much immune, but other secuirty members not agreeing.. If the US invaded Canada for no or little reason, Britain sure as hell wouldn't support them.. Because they would be fearful of the US would do the same to them out of the blue.

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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces... sSubZerOo

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

:| No you wouldn't.. What would happen is we would see a great schism in the UN.. Due to the US being pretty much immune, but other secuirty members not agreeing.. If the US invaded Canada for no or little reason, Britain sure as hell wouldn't support them.. Because they would be fearful of the US would do the same to them out of the blue.

Doesn't Britain have allies? Wouldn't Russia get involved?

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#36 67gt500
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Sounds like great fun, just don't make the same mistake that Hitler made with Russia by attacking us in winter...
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#37 BluRayHiDef
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Sounds like great fun, just don't make the same mistake that Hitler made with Russia by attacking us in winter...67gt500

We could take you over without stepping foot on your soil. Air strikes and naval assaults on your coastline would get the job done. After your forces have been incapacitated, we'd move in and subdue your civilians. We'd do it in a week.

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#38 67gt500
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

:| No you wouldn't.. What would happen is we would see a great schism in the UN.. Due to the US being pretty much immune, but other secuirty members not agreeing.. If the US invaded Canada for no or little reason, Britain sure as hell wouldn't support them.. Because they would be fearful of the US would do the same to them out of the blue.

Doesn't Britain have allies? Wouldn't Russia get involved?

Guys -- Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is also the Queen of Canada... we (Canada) are a Constitutional Monarchy -- attacking us is akin to attacking the United Kingdom... and considering half of Russia has emigrated here in the last few years, they just might take offense to such a move also...
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

BluRayHiDef

:| No you wouldn't.. What would happen is we would see a great schism in the UN.. Due to the US being pretty much immune, but other secuirty members not agreeing.. If the US invaded Canada for no or little reason, Britain sure as hell wouldn't support them.. Because they would be fearful of the US would do the same to them out of the blue.

Doesn't Britain have allies? Wouldn't Russia get involved?

It doesn't matter there is no "real" allies any more like there were in WW2 and WW1.. What we see now is a global group that will chain gang on countries that get out of line (mainly 3rd world countries).. The United States would be endangering themselves by making such a brunt action that will cause the distrust of neighbors and allies alike.

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#40 psychobrew
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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]It would be political suicide.. Great Britain, France, Russia etc etc would instantly break contact and support of US forces... sSubZerOo

Nah. We'd just get a little slap on the wrists from the UN. Great Britain might actually join us. It's been a long time since they've had a new colony.

:| No you wouldn't.. What would happen is we would see a great schism in the UN.. Due to the US being pretty much immune, but other secuirty members not agreeing.. If the US invaded Canada for no or little reason, Britain sure as hell wouldn't support them.. Because they would be fearful of the US would do the same to them out of the blue.

At worst, they'd encourage solving our differences through diplomacy. They'd use one of our diplomatic channels and ask us if we'd like to share our feelings.

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war, would not be worth it, but if we stopped all of the harmful economic policies, got our economic ducks back in a row, a simple invite could work.
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]It won't be as easy as everyone thinks. ...especially if the Canadians can hold out for winter Most Americans are not used to those conditions. It would be hell fighting in that artic air...frostbite and other skin issues would be a major concern me thinkstheone86

We're talking about soldiers here, not a bunch of yuppies on vacation who forgot to pack their long johns. We're the best equipped military in the world, we have the equipment to fight in cold environments and the medical equipment to deal with something like frostbite.

I don't know man. Word on the street is that skin conditions can wreak havoc on a man
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#43 67gt500
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="theone86"]

It won't be as easy as everyone thinks. ...especially if the Canadians can hold out for winter Most Americans are not used to those conditions. It would be hell fighting in that artic air...frostbite and other skin issues would be a major concern me thinksrawsavon

We're talking about soldiers here, not a bunch of yuppies on vacation who forgot to pack their long johns. We're the best equipped military in the world, we have the equipment to fight in cold environments and the medical equipment to deal with something like frostbite.

I don't know man. Word on the street is that skin conditions can wreak havoc on a man

lol -- something like 95% of our total population lives within 150 miles of the US border -- there's very little population living in the Northern regions where the air is 'thin' never mind 'arctic'... in Alberta, where I reside, (due north of Montana) we get less snow every year than America's Inland Northwest or Eastern Seaboard
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#44 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]Sounds like great fun, just don't make the same mistake that Hitler made with Russia by attacking us in winter...BluRayHiDef

We could take you over without stepping foot on your soil. Air strikes and naval assaults on your coastline would get the job done. After your forces have been incapacitated, we'd move in and subdue your civilians. We'd do it in a week.

You guys can barely handle a bunch of farmers with Ak's, how teh hell can you handle an Army that has traning equal to yours? And mind you, if we have an Insurgancy, we CAN sneak across the Border and Hurt YOUR infrastructure.
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Why would we want to? We have a great relationship with Canada so why would we want to destroy that?

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#46 67gt500
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]Sounds like great fun, just don't make the same mistake that Hitler made with Russia by attacking us in winter...lordreaven

We could take you over without stepping foot on your soil. Air strikes and naval assaults on your coastline would get the job done. After your forces have been incapacitated, we'd move in and subdue your civilians. We'd do it in a week.

You guys can barely handle a bunch of farmers with Ak's, how teh hell can you handle an Army that has traning equal to yours?

lol -- I was waiting for someone to point this out... good one...

EDIT: it's worth noting that much of our terrain is virtually identical to that of Afghanistan -- considering American forces over-all lack of success dealing with opfors in Afghanistan for over 10 years now, maybe they wouldn't have such an easy time taking Canada after all...

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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

We could take you over without stepping foot on your soil. Air strikes and naval assaults on your coastline would get the job done. After your forces have been incapacitated, we'd move in and subdue your civilians. We'd do it in a week.

67gt500

You guys can barely handle a bunch of farmers with Ak's, how teh hell can you handle an Army that has traning equal to yours?

lol -- I was waiting for someone to point this out... good one...

Its absurd really. Though now that i think of it, if we have equal traning and they can barely handle farmesr with AK's, we should probebly change our training method.

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#48 surrealnumber5
Member since 2008 • 23044 Posts
i got it, we "give" those maple suckers Detroit, in a year's time they will be ruined and begging to join us
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#49 lordreaven
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i got it, we "give" those maple suckers Detroit, in a year's time they will be ruined and begging to join ussurrealnumber5
No..............we want Maine back.
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#50 BluRayHiDef
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[QUOTE="lordreaven"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

We could take you over without stepping foot on your soil. Air strikes and naval assaults on your coastline would get the job done. After your forces have been incapacitated, we'd move in and subdue your civilians. We'd do it in a week.

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You guys can barely handle a bunch of farmers with Ak's, how teh hell can you handle an Army that has traning equal to yours?

lol -- I was waiting for someone to point this out... good one...

You're not taking terrain and fighting style into account. Because Afghanistan consists of large open valleys and mountains, it's very easy for insurgents to hide since there aren't that many of them. They use gurilla warfare. So, U.S. soldiers and marines spend most of their time just trying to find insurgents as opposed to actually fighting them. However, once they're found, they're no match. In the case of Canada, Canadian forces would have no terrain advantage like this, since most of the territory to the north is not even used. Also, since Canada has a normal military force, they would be divided into large groups that are easy to find/ identify. There would be no gurilla warfare. It would be a conventional war. Also, I'm pretty sure that the U.S. knows where all of Canada's military bases are. So, we could just take them out with air strikes.