How many people HATE Obama?

I don't know Obama as a person so I can't say I hate him, but what I do know is I hate everything he stands for. He is a socialst who will do nothing but hurt our great nation.kingyotoX

Agreed, but dont say that on OT, its considered arrogent, racist, and ignorant. ;)

Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.buxboy

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

I don't know Obama as a person so I can't say I hate him, but what I do know is I hate everything he stands for. He is a socialst who will do nothing but hurt our great nation.kingyotoX

so which one do you mean Muslims of Muslim Fundamentalists?

P08C

You mean extremist. As none of the things he mentioned are part of the fundementals of Islam.

[QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="justis_r"]

LIE,????? Lie????!!! Dude, they caught him on TAPE!!!! Tell it to the video. P08C

Okay, let's see that video, and if it's a video of the National Anthem, I get to laugh at you. I really woudln't care if he didn't anyway.

Islam is not a religion of death and destruction you naive misinformed idiot! Do you not even know a thing about the islamic faith? It's people like you that make this country a bad place and if you were to die today i would hope that nobody in this world would come to your funeral because you are such an ugly person!

What does it matter if someone used to be a muslim or is a muslim? Hell, it might even help the middle east take us a little more seriously if we had someone in office who truly understands the religion rather than a naive **** hole who doesn't even know the basics of islam!

your website has nothing to do with the religion only extremist actions.....why don't you pick up the Quran and reah the early meccan surrahs to find out the truth for yourself or since you probably don't have immediate access to one read this site

Wow dude, you need to learn some tolerance.....quote me a passage in the Quran that preaches hate (w/o googling it).........and just because I accept Islam and find it to be an effective religion does not mean that I agree with their views on life.......

you really have no clue

so which one do you mean Muslims of Muslim Fundamentalists?

Though after reading the book it will become apparent to you that the goal of islam is to creat a muslim world, and they are to stop at nothing.

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

It is legal for a Christian to be put to death in some Moozlim countries. Dont talk about having a choice. Muslims believe that women are property.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.buxboy

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

[QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

Google: 'denial' and 'ignorance'

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.justis_r

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

[QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.SylentButDeadly

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

It is legal for a Christian to be put to death in some Moozlim countries. Dont talk about having a choice. Muslims believe that women are property.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.SylentButDeadly

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

Google: 'denial' and 'ignorance'

No need. I can already recognize it in your replies.

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

Google: 'denial' and 'ignorance'

No need. I can already recognize it in your replies.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.justis_r

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

Obvious based on evidence? Obvious due to your shared ignorance with BuxBoy?

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

Obvious based on evidence? Obvious due to your shared ignorance with BuxBoy?

[QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="P08C"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="justis_r"]

LIE,????? Lie????!!! Dude, they caught him on TAPE!!!! Tell it to the video. buxboy

Okay, let's see that video, and if it's a video of the National Anthem, I get to laugh at you. I really woudln't care if he didn't anyway.

Islam is not a religion of death and destruction you naive misinformed idiot! Do you not even know a thing about the islamic faith? It's people like you that make this country a bad place and if you were to die today i would hope that nobody in this world would come to your funeral because you are such an ugly person!

What does it matter if someone used to be a muslim or is a muslim? Hell, it might even help the middle east take us a little more seriously if we had someone in office who truly understands the religion rather than a naive **** hole who doesn't even know the basics of islam!

your website has nothing to do with the religion only extremist actions.....why don't you pick up the Quran and reah the early meccan surrahs to find out the truth for yourself or since you probably don't have immediate access to one read this site

Wow dude, you need to learn some tolerance.....quote me a passage in the Quran that preaches hate (w/o googling it).........and just because I accept Islam and find it to be an effective religion does not mean that I agree with their views on life.......

you really have no clue

so which one do you mean Muslims of Muslim Fundamentalists?

Though after reading the book it will become apparent to you that the goal of islam is to creat a muslim world, and they are to stop at nothing.

So you're going to take Brigette Gabriel's word over what is written in the Quran. If you read the Quran you will know that the goal of Islam is to create a Caliphate which means that they want all of Islam united under one leader descended from Muhammad. Muhammad doesn't care if everybody follows Islam. In his later years when he lived in Medina he had Jews living in the city of Medina (that he was in control of) side by side with Muslims. Although certain tribes of Jews were exectued this was done because of the three (maybe it was two) wars between Mecca and Medina in which the Jews from Mecca attacked the Muslims in Medina so rather than being defeated from the inside out by Jews who followed the same tribe as those who attacked Medina Muhammad executed them. Christians have commited far worse atrocites throughout time. Just look at Hitler

Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. justis_r

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. rimnet00

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

The Islam haters have been owned.

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

Based on all of the posts he has made in this thread, it is readily apparent that he believes whatever nonsense he sees on the internet or in chain emails, even when it has long since been discredited, so long as it validates him being an ignorant and intolerant ass.

[QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

justis_r

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.SpaceMoose

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

So, are you saying the Qur'an does not state that "there is no compulsion in religion"? Or are you talking out of your rear?

Based on all of the posts he has made in this thread, it is readily apparent that he believes whatever nonsense he sees on the internet or in chain emails, even when it has long since been discredited, so long as it validates him being an ignorant and intolerant ass.

[QUOTE="SylentButDeadly"][QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="buxboy"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]Making them wear scarves to cover themselves. Making them walk behind men, forbidding them to get an education.rimnet00

It is up to the woman whether she wishes to be a Muslim. There is no compulsion in religion, when it comes to Islam. With that said it's up to her whether she wishes to wear a Hijab or not. She also does not have to walk behind men. Finally, the last statement is absurd. Women are absolutely allowed to obtain an education.

Do you live under a rock?

Iran does not represent Islam. Just as Germany under Nazi rule does not represent Christianity. Google: Logical fallacies.

Google: 'denial' and 'ignorance'

No need. I can already recognize it in your replies.

I had a lot of your quotes in my replies. I can see how it might get confusing. :P

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. justis_r

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

thank you

Though after reading the book it will become apparent to you that the goal of islam is to creat a muslim world, and they are to stop at nothing.

I hate to break it to you but Christianity wants the same thing so what about that

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Based on all of the posts he has made in this thread, it is readily apparent that he believes whatever nonsense he sees on the internet or in chain emails, even when it has long since been discredited, so long as it validates him being an ignorant and intolerant ass.

justis_r

That really says it all I think.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. justis_r

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

........ You mean... The Qur'an? The compilation that defines Islam?

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

soren008

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

Qualified for what? He couldn't last ten minutes after he would pull the troops out. THEN the war would be here. And personally I don't want to have to keep an AK-47 next to my bed just to make sure I don't get killed by Ahkmed.[QUOTE="freshgman"]did you need a new account for this? Hes more than qualifiedjustis_r

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. rimnet00

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

........ You mean... The Qur'an? The compilation that defines Islam?

[QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

justis_r

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="justis_r"]

LIE,????? Lie????!!! Dude, they caught him on TAPE!!!! Tell it to the video. justis_r

Okay, let's see that video, and if it's a video of the National Anthem, I get to laugh at you. I really woudln't care if he didn't anyway.

Religion of death? Wow, just wow....

Obama also seems pretty anti-Israel. Another reason I can't trust him. (don't give me that BS speech he did after he won the nomination)CruxisXIII

Obama is not anti-Israel though I do wish he was. I'm sick and tired of politicians pandering to the Israeli lobbyist groups who wants to put Israeli interests above American interests, not to mention they want to use my tax dollars to fund their military and of course, the illegal settlements as well. Somebody need to stand up to them and unfortunately, Obama is not one of them.

[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ignorance to you. Reality to us. Face it guy. Ur wrong. justis_r

2:256 There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way. Whoever therefore rejects the forces of evil and believes in God, he has taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way, for God is All Hearing and Knowing.

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.

4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."

11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?°

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."

22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."

88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.

48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.

36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'

39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.

42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....

64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.

67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

........ You mean... The Qur'an? The compilation that defines Islam?

I'm sorry, it's also defined secondly by the Hadith of the Prophet:

"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)

"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)

"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)

"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)

"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="justis_r"]

LIE,????? Lie????!!! Dude, they caught him on TAPE!!!! Tell it to the video. Aclar00_basic

Okay, let's see that video, and if it's a video of the National Anthem, I get to laugh at you. I really woudln't care if he didn't anyway.

Religion of death? Wow, just wow....

Agreed. I'm amazed as to just how many people are actually supporting this claim that Islam is a religion of death. Truly sickening.

[QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

justis_r

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

note to self ... justis r is a nutcase ...

all the best ..

[QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

soren008

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

note to self ... justis r is a nutcase ...

all the best ..

Religion of death? Wow, just wow....

Aclar00_basic

He also thought that Islam and Muslim are two different religions apparently. :lol:

[QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"][QUOTE="justis_r"][QUOTE="soren008"]

[QUOTE="buxboy"]

It is our responcibility. We are America. The entire world is our responcibility. Since we stepped into WWI it became so. When things start to go south, anywhere on earth, American is the country that evens things out. You know that. The entire world knows it and we are doing a good thing by trying to stabilize Iraq.

justis_r

Beyond delusional ....

Because I disagree with the "entire world being America's responsibility".... :

I think "dude" needs to travel... :P

I'm English ... you think what I just said was in any way anti-american ?

I am right. The entire world is not america's responsibility for god's sake ...

note to self ... justis r is a nutcase ...

all the best ..

You need help you know that right.

Did the mods quit? lolrimnet00

lol, i was sure i was going to get modded several times for the things i said earlier.

He's a liberal, and that's all I really need to know in order to not vote for him. I'm sure he's a nice guy though.fidosim

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]

[QUOTE="justis_r"]Ya u wouldn't bea able to have the freedom of speech or be able even look at Sadam without dying!!! I wish u would have lived there. Then u would have a different opinion.buxboy

Why, because you lived there?

Why aren't we at the doorsteps of other countries, i'm sure saddam couldn't be the only extreme dictator in the world?

Barack Obama is not suited to run the greatest nation on Gods green earth.(hahaha) Why? Because of what he stands for, and the fact that he's a liar.(source?) He supports: Abortion (fancy word for murdering conscious human lives)(it should be the mother's choice, not the government's) Partial birth Abortion (where the baby is halfway out, and they kill it, although it could be born and put up for adoption) Weakening our country's defenses by cutting off millions of dollars of "unnecessary" spending. He will not "arm space".(Good thing, the US is trillions in debt)Raising taxes(good thing, the US in trillions in debt)Global warming (now known as "climate change")(what about it? he wants the fight it, its existance is fact, and something needs to be done) His discriminating ex-pastor (guilt by association?) The fact that America needs "change" and "hope" (change and hope for what? For WHAT? ANSWER ME.)(ok, since you asked, for the approx 75% of the american people who are tired of the plain idiotic policies of our current republican leadership under george bush) Also, he is unexperienced, he clawed his way to the democratic nominee simply be smooth-talking, he changes his mind about major issues A LOT (such as dividing Jerusalem), and he calls himself a Christian when he doesn't act like it in the slightest! Would a tru Christian support the things that HE supports? I don't think so! Also, he SAYS that he was born in America, and yet he refuses to show his birth certificate! Why? See, if you're silent about something, that means that you're hiding something. If he really WAS born in Hawaii, why not show proof? Why hide it?(Total BS, here's his birth certificate) Barack Obama will be worse than Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. Sure, John McCain won't be the best president ever, but he will be better than Barack Obama. Oh yeah, by the way, Hamas and other terrorist agencies want Barack Obama to win the election. Doesn't that say anything to you?(more total BS. And most of Europe and pretty much all of Japan wants Obama. Doesn't that say something to you?)huladog123

happy?