How much blame does Obama deserve for the oil spill?

I notice that a lot of people in the media are pointing fingers at Obama for this disaster. So my question is, does he deserve this or are they doing it for political gain, rather then the benefit to the country?

I notice that a lot of people in the media are pointing fingers at Obama for this disaster.LastCaveMan

None. This isn't a US president's fault. It's BP's.

People want o blame the BP executives (b/c they are the highest ranking employees in the company...they are in charge)
**if** (big if) you follow that logic, then it is only fair to blame Obama an equal amount

The US gov just gave them a ****ing safety award
-the have gone through countless inspections by US Gov employees
-the US gov was in charge of making sure BP followed regulations and was operating in a safe manner
-Obama is the highest ranking employee in the company known as the US gov.

I don't really blame either though

Probably the same amount Bush had for katrina.

Not much. Just that special vague responsibility that comes from just being President. wstfld

None. What they hell could he do to prevent it?cd_rom

its all our faults for being so dependant on oil. accidents happen.

[QUOTE="wstfld"]Not much. Just that special vague responsibility that comes from just being President. supercubedude64

[QUOTE="supercubedude64"][QUOTE="wstfld"]Not much. Just that special vague responsibility that comes from just being President. surrealnumber5

And how does an inspector go about inspecting every foot of pipeline nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean all across the gulf? Because this pipe isn't the only pipe... The are dozens of them... Which makes thousands of miles of pipe...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"] This. He'll pay for mistakes that aren't his, like all presidents do.Buttons1990

And how does an inspector go about inspecting every foot of pipeline nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean all across the gulf? Because this pipe isn't the only pipe... The are dozens of them... Which makes thousands of miles of pipe...

All he has to do is go down there and shove his big mouth over the pipe or we can just shove him in the pipe, and boom! Fixed :P

I am not sure there really is anyone to blame for it... I would say BP, but even then it seems less like slack and poor maintenence and more like a semi freakish accident.

People just want someone to blame, when the constructions and way we usually do things fail.

*sigh*

It is howver a really bad situation, I feel really bad when the US was asking around the world for help, but none of us had any way to be of any real help :\ It is too deep, and needs specialised equipment that is fare more then just rare.

None. This question is stupid.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"] This. He'll pay for mistakes that aren't his, like all presidents do.Buttons1990

And how does an inspector go about inspecting every foot of pipeline nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean all across the gulf? Because this pipe isn't the only pipe... The are dozens of them... Which makes thousands of miles of pipe...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="supercubedude64"] This. He'll pay for mistakes that aren't his, like all presidents do.Buttons1990

And how does an inspector go about inspecting every foot of pipeline nearly a mile beneath the surface of the ocean all across the gulf? Because this pipe isn't the only pipe... The are dozens of them... Which makes thousands of miles of pipe...

...I had a point to make but I can't stop staring at your signature. I think I could watch that for hours.

It's partially his (White House) fault as they just gave that rig a safety award...

People aren't blaming Obama, they are just saying he isn't doing anything about it or took way too long to show actual interest in the event.

I love how some right wingers immideatly point the finger at Obama and the government for not reacting swiftly enough but at the same time whine about the government being too big and having too much authority.Osaka-06

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]I love how some right wingers immideatly point the finger at Obama and the government for not reacting swiftly enough but at the same time whine about the government being too big and having too much authority.Chutebox

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I am not really into the blame game (for either BP or the the US gov.) -but I do blame the Gov. for reacting too slowly. -they left it up to a company to handle for far too long Chutebox

IMO, once it starts negatively affecting the US it is time for the Gov to step in and take charge (to protect our interests)

[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]I love how some right wingers immideatly point the finger at Obama and the government for not reacting swiftly enough but at the same time whine about the government being too big and having too much authority.Chutebox

how exactly is that unrelated?

I am not really into the blame game (for either BP or the the US gov.) -but I do blame the Gov. for reacting too slowly. -they left it up to a company to handle for far too long rawsavon

well BP wasn't even gonna try top kill, until they were told to

I love how some right wingers immideatly point the finger at Obama and the government for not reacting swiftly enough but at the same time whine about the government being too big and having too much authority.Osaka-06

Not much i suppose..

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[QUOTE="Osaka-06"]I love how some right wingers immideatly point the finger at Obama and the government for not reacting swiftly enough but at the same time whine about the government being too big and having too much authority.LastCaveMan

how exactly is that unrelated?

very little.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I am not really into the blame game (for either BP or the the US gov.) -but I do blame the Gov. for reacting too slowly. -they left it up to a company to handle for far too long LastCaveMan

well BP wasn't even gonna try top kill, until they were told to

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Wow, completely not related....

Chutebox

how exactly is that unrelated?

None really, he hadno way of predicting this disaster. I think it has been a bad idea letting BP handle trying to stop the spill for so long, but it is their mess to contain and they 'should' be best equiped and prepared to stop something like this. The real question is why is BP still allowed to even drill for oil, they don't exactly have the greatest track record.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

how exactly is that unrelated?

Osaka-06

[QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]I am not really into the blame game (for either BP or the the US gov.) -but I do blame the Gov. for reacting too slowly. -they left it up to a company to handle for far too long rawsavon

well BP wasn't even gonna try top kill, until they were told to

yeah and Obama knows theirs nothing he can do, but people still expect him to for the cameras anyway - it works the same way.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

well BP wasn't even gonna try top kill, until they were told to

yeah and Obama knows theirs nothing he can do, but people still expect him to for the cameras anyway - it works the same way.

[QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Wow, completely not related....

Chutebox

how exactly is that unrelated?

Not big government? so YOU paying for the mess someone else has created, is not big government?

None really, he hadno way of predicting this disaster. I think it has been a bad idea letting BP handle trying to stop the spill for so long, but it is their mess to contain and they 'should' be best equiped and prepared to stop something like this. The real question is why is BP still allowed to even drill for oil, they don't exactly have the greatest track record.

SaintLeonidas

Their an international company...IE British Petroleum, theres nothing we can really do to stop them short of denying them American Drilling rights.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

how exactly is that unrelated?

LastCaveMan

Not big government? so YOU paying for the mess someone else has created, is not big government?

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="LastCaveMan"]

how exactly is that unrelated?

Osaka-06

What does that have to do with anything? How are values or ideals being affected back in the mid 90's about a plan of how gov't can subdue major oil spills from happening?

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Because this isn't big Government. This is fixing a disaster that happened effecting American people.Chutebox

Not big government? so YOU paying for the mess someone else has created, is not big government?