[QUOTE="jim_shorts"][QUOTE="thebest31406"] Fixing elections no (Bush 2 anyone?) Nationalizing oil, yes. If you're implying that George Bush fixed an election, then that's just plain wrong. Got that right...
Do you have proof they fixed elections? International observers were there and found nothing out of the ordinary. In fact Bush's election was more questioned than Chavez'for the procedure. And what if he nationalized the oil industry? It was a great move considering it helped him reduce poverty by almost 30% and increase literacy for almost 2 million people instead of foreign companies taking 99% of the oil profits.kuraimen
He stole a company by military force and used it as his own personal piggy bank. That's corruption at it's apex.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Do you have proof they fixed elections? International observers were there and found nothing out of the ordinary. In fact Bush's election was more questioned than Chavez'for the procedure. And what if he nationalized the oil industry? It was a great move considering it helped him reduce poverty by almost 30% and increase literacy for almost 2 million people instead of foreign companies taking 99% of the oil profits.airshocker
He stole a company by military force and used it as his own personal piggy bank. That's corruption at it's apex.
Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.
Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.kuraimen
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.airshocker
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.airshocker
What do you think nationalizing is? :lol:
None of that justifies his actions.
Nationalizing is NOT stealing. Nationalizing is nationalizing. If the government bought the company THAT'S nationalizing. This tells the story from people within Venezuela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJQu6bQ5vKk If you care to inform yourself even a little bit watch it.
Nationalizing is NOT stealing. Nationalizing is nationalizing. If the government bought the company THAT'S nationalizing. This tells the story from people within Venezuela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJQu6bQ5vKk If you care to inform yourself even a little bit watch it.kuraimen
Yes, it is. When a government takes over an industry that was once in private hands, that is stealing.
None of this even touches on the corruption that occured once Chavez did take over the oil industry.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Nationalizing is NOT stealing. Nationalizing is nationalizing. If the government bought the company THAT'S nationalizing. This tells the story from people within Venezuela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJQu6bQ5vKk If you care to inform yourself even a little bit watch it.airshocker
Yes, it is. When a government takes over an industry that was once in private hands, that is stealing.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.airshocker
What do you think nationalizing is? :lol:
None of that justifies his actions.
Did you know that the oil industry of Venezuela was nationalized more than two decades before Chavez came into power? I bet you didn't.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Nationalizing is NOT stealing. Nationalizing is nationalizing. If the government bought the company THAT'S nationalizing. This tells the story from people within Venezuela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJQu6bQ5vKk If you care to inform yourself even a little bit watch it.dave123321
Yes, it is. When a government takes over an industry that was once in private hands, that is stealing.
Did you watch the video? Will take some time You can't blame Airshocker for not watching it dude....
Yes, it is. When a government takes over an industry that was once in private hands, that is stealing.
kingkong0124
Did you watch the video? Will take some time You can't blame Airshocker for not watching it dude.... For sure. Kuri should provide some basic ideas from it first
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Source? Fox is not a credible source by the way. And even if he did stole a company to take 30% of people in his country out of poverty and teach how to read and write to 2 million children instead of a couple of foreign fat CEOs wasting that money on new yachts then it was worth it.airshocker
What do you think nationalizing is? :lol:
None of that justifies his actions.
So because he "stole" a company that negates all the good he did? c'mon son
There's a reason he's one of the most controversial men this century. It isn't as black and white as you make it seem.
How am I justifying? I'm saying it's not as simple as you're making it seem.
Unless you care about private companies and CEOs more than poor children and the illiterate well then we have nothing to discuss
airshocker
I care about both, but that doesn't justify this scumbag's actions.
To be fair I think this bit in your article was worse "In recent weeks, his government has also hounded top rivals, stripping the mayor of Caracas of financing for the city budget".
So because he "stole" a company that negates all the good he did? c'mon son
There's a reason he's one of the most controversial men this century. It isn't as black and white as you make it seem.
airshocker
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Really? you're going to try and justify his actions? rofl. GTFO of here.
 ..  Eh if that's the thing that made him skeletor, I wonder about our priorities when the US has actually supported people in the past that tortured and killed their own people in the form of Pinochet and Shah..  This isn't suggesting I lean one way or the other on the matter, I really couldn't care less about this guys death..  But I hope there are bigger things to condemn this guy..Â
So because he "stole" a company that negates all the good he did? c'mon son
There's a reason he's one of the most controversial men this century. It isn't as black and white as you make it seem.
sSubZerOo
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Really? you're going to try and justify his actions? rofl. GTFO of here.
 ..  Eh if that's the thing that made him skeletor, I wonder about our priorities when the US has actually supported people in the past that tortured and killed their own people in the form of Pinochet and Shah..  This isn't suggesting I lean one way or the other on the matter, I really couldn't care less about this guys death..  Â
The US doesn't give a sh*t about brutal dictators as long as those dictators are friendly to US interests.
 ..  Eh if that's the thing that made him skeletor, I wonder about our priorities when the US has actually supported people in the past that tortured and killed their own people in the form of Pinochet and Shah..  This isn't suggesting I lean one way or the other on the matter, I really couldn't care less about this guys death..  But I hope there are bigger things to condemn this guy..Â
sSubZerOo
I'm not going to link multitudes of news articles talking about the sh*tty things this tool has done. You can believe whatever you want. As I've shown in the past your opinion is pretty worthless to me.
 ..  Eh if that's the thing that made him skeletor, I wonder about our priorities when the US has actually supported people in the past that tortured and killed their own people in the form of Pinochet and Shah..  This isn't suggesting I lean one way or the other on the matter, I really couldn't care less about this guys death..  But I hope there are bigger things to condemn this guy..Â
airshocker
I'm not going to link multitudes of news articles talking about the sh*tty things this tool has done. You can believe whatever you want. As I've shown in the past your opinion is pretty worthless to me.
 ..  Eh if that's the thing that made him skeletor, I wonder about our priorities when the US has actually supported people in the past that tortured and killed their own people in the form of Pinochet and Shah..  This isn't suggesting I lean one way or the other on the matter, I really couldn't care less about this guys death..  But I hope there are bigger things to condemn this guy..Â
airshocker
I'm not going to link multitudes of news articles talking about the sh*tty things this tool has done. You can believe whatever you want. As I've shown in the past your opinion is pretty worthless to me.
Funny how you don't give a sh1t about anyone's opinion here but your own and still come here to put forward your uninformed opinion and expect others to take it seriously.
Funny how you don't give a sh1t about anyone's opinion here but your own and still come here to put forward your uninformed opinion and expect others to take it seriously.kuraimen
Just because I don't care about your opinion, or subzero's, doesn't mean I don't care about anyone else's.
[QUOTE="dave123321"]Airshocker has also told me he doesn't care about what I think. Air, who do you respect here anyway? Pirate? Teenaged? He normally acts all childish like that... and then pretends other people don't like discussion :roll: Piece of work this guy...
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